Lucy Letby Case #2

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I feel for her parents getting papped every day going to court. I can't imagine how they feel. Yes they are supporting their daughter, but they must have doubts about her. I wonder also how locals where she lived think? Imagine a story this big happening in your own small little village. I would love to know what the locals think who have known her since she was a small kid like school friends, neighbours etc.
Why must they have doubts?
 
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The prosecution say that, within a minute or two of looking at the mother of Child G on Facebook, she then looked at the mums of two other babies listed in the charges.
One was the mum who, the prosecution said, "interrupted the attack" by Letby on Child E."
Some sort of deranged obsession over these families seems apparent
 
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Regarding the patient assignment, this is not a rigid rule. When a nurse is tasked with a certain room/patient/ward she/he is not supposed to ignore if a patient assigned to another nurse is needing help and his/her assigned nurse is not available. So, this argument that “she was not supposed to be with Baby C” is totally irrelevant. It sounds like someone failed to attend to the baby’s needs and is passing on the bucket. So far, I haven’t read any article that single out this nurse. And the fact she was working alone in a neonatal unit at any point, it’s simply hospital failure. She has so many arguments to win this case and get a large compensation if it keeps going on like this. They are all in it, up to the gob.
 
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But... how can anyone take it as fact, if no PM was done? You can't say either way surely? If prosecution can use it as face despite no PM, surely defence can use no PM?



EXACTLY. 'We the prosecution want you to take this experts word for it despite no PM and despite them saying they can't rule out natural causes.' Baffling
Because experts witnesses are experts within their profession. So their opinion, based on their experience, is to be treated as fact and trusted. The defence will use the natural cause possibility probably but my understanding of what is being said then the possibility of it occurring naturally is quite slim. You don't need a post mortem report because the expert witness evidence is enough if that makes sense.
 
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With this Facebook talk, I can’t see any instances where Facebook searching a victim’s families makes her more likely to be a murderer. I think it’s a weak prosecution argument using the fact she was looking them up to indicate anything more sinister (its a basic slippery slope argument fallacy). Searching for specifics on how to carry something out etc. is another matter.

I’m not saying she is innocent, I’m just saying it’s a type of argument that the prosecution will use but has no actual ramifications on making her more or less likely to murder.
Agreed.

I’ve been chatting to colleagues about this today, and most people have admitted to Facebook or social media “stalking” a variety of people on occasions for various reasons (as also demonstrated by people on this thread including myself who will admit to “Facebook stalking”).

Half the jury will be thinking “oh that’s a bit weird” and half will be thinking “well tit, I do that too, what’s the big deal?”.
 
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Surely monitors don't just get switched off by accident?
ours on the NICU in Newcastle were checked very regularly by nurses and health care assistants. The monitor is what allerted everyone to my sons respiratory arrest so they were always turned on day in day out.
 
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Agreed.

I’ve been chatting to colleagues about this today, and most people have admitted to Facebook or social media “stalking” a variety of people on occasions for various reasons (as also demonstrated by people on this thread including myself who will admit to “Facebook stalking”).

Half the jury will be thinking “oh that’s a bit weird” and half will be thinking “well tit, I do that too, what’s the big deal?”.
Facebook stalking is normal but looking at the mothers of 2 dead babies and one who has permanent brain damage is perhaps a big deal

Why would the first thing you think of doing after a baby is collapsing is looking for it’s mother on Facebook?
 
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I know people have a nosey on Facebook but why would you search the child’s parents after a bad incident and then search previous babies that died . It seems strange to me like i Could maybe understand that babies parents but then two minutes later search child E mum who caught you supposedly killing her baby . Nah that’s to much sorry but I don’t see any valid reason why’s he would do that if she’s innocent
 
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Facebook stalking is normal but looking at the mothers of 2 dead babies and one who has permanent brain damage is perhaps a big deal

Why would the first thing you think of doing after a baby is collapsing is looking for it’s mother on Facebook?
That is weird tbh. Like, strange. The thing is, she can argue that she wanted to see how babies were doing etc, but every single one? Weird.
 
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From what is being presented either a monster was at work or babies and Mothers were being seriously failed by incompetency at an unusually high level. Which is very worrying.
 
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The latest evidence on the Facebook activity seems very clear that she was looking for some kind of kick out of seeing the families she had damaged.
 
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I will admit, baby G has thrown me.
How can they be so sure she vomited due to over feeding?
It's common that preemies suffer with reflux, mine have had reflux and have desaturated and/or stopped breathing due to reflux in the early days. Very curious to see what evidence they have on this one.

Mr Johnson: "The practice of the nurses on the NNU was to use the NGT to check whether an infant had an empty stomach before feeding. That was done in Child G’s case – nothing came up which means there was nothing in her stomach.

"She was then fed and her designated nurse went on a break. 15 minutes later Child G produced projectile vomits of such force that they left the cot and landed on the floor and nearby chair.
 
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The latest evidence on the Facebook activity seems very clear that she was looking for some kind of kick out of seeing the families she had damaged.
IF she was guilty that would be the case. Baffled why people aren't waiting for more evidence to determine guilt
 
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Agreed.

I’ve been chatting to colleagues about this today, and most people have admitted to Facebook or social media “stalking” a variety of people on occasions for various reasons (as also demonstrated by people on this thread including myself who will admit to “Facebook stalking”).

Half the jury will be thinking “oh that’s a bit weird” and half will be thinking “well tit, I do that too, what’s the big deal?”.
But I'm sure it's not parents of recently deceased babies in their care
 
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That is weird tbh. Like, strange. The thing is, she can argue that she wanted to see how babies were doing etc, but every single one? Weird.
I wonder did she search parents of other children that didn’t have any issues . I find it strange she even searched the families especially after each episode and then look at previous families two minutes later . Was she worrying that the parents was suspecting her so she went back to look at child E parents to see if they had said anything . She could have been paranoid and that’s why she was Stalking them
 
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