It’s almost like its not the news she wanted . I’m certain she wanted baby F to dieOh dear, what a comment for a baby that’s improving, that anyone else would be delighted to hear is improving. Ugh she’s honestly so sick. When you actually sit and think of it like that
This is the thing thought isn’t it, if you concede that there has been an intentional poisoning (which everyone knows there deffo has), then you also have to concede there’s a murderer on the unit. So it becomes a case of not if, but who. And who else was present for all 22 charges. Don’t know how BM is/can going to play this one
Exactly this! Blows BM’s picture of a caring loving nurse out the water
Well I guess because she’s not there caught by somebody, holding a syringe and manically laughing with hands in claws around her face…
let’s just let everyone off this kind of crime 
set a good example 
without meaning to sound crude, ‘runs’ tend to happen which can be influenced by so much from the weather to the daily fail reporting some BS that makes people stop or change medication/habits. This is pre pandemic anyway. When you think of how many nurses cumulatively cover the unit for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week, they have a huge staff resource and the same day person won’t take over the same night person, x might be off sick so they have agency staff in… I’m being very much generalised here. Once the insulin levels here were known, this incident becomes probably the most serious incident the trust has had for some time. And I do mean that over the deaths that have been discussed - not disrespectfully - but because these were thought to have answers to them at the time, whereas the insulin is a never event.
I’m not medical, more psychological but I am type 1 diabetic. Not very much insulin would be required. For example, if I take 10 units of fast acting insulin which is 0.01ml it will drop my sugars by 2. Therefore, if I had a blood glucose level of 10 and wanted it to go to 6 I would take 20 units (0.02ml). A baby would need a lot less, and even less if not a neonate.
they didn’t stand a chance I’m so glad baby F survived but they will forever grown up wondering why a nurse took his sibling and it could have been them aswell those parents will be traumatised they will never trust a health professionals again and I don’t blame them .I think a lot of people, and probably including myself at the beginning, do not realise what murder in healthcare looks like. It’s different from how you perceive a “typical” murder case will go, what evidence the police are specifically looking for in this kind of crime, how circumstantial evidence is everything. I think once you realise what murder in health care actually looks like, it changes your whole view on certain evidence you’re hearing, cos you realise that’s the exact kind of evidence you need to hear for murders like these. And yes if she is responsible for these deaths she has to be found guilty and punished, or how easy would it be for HSK to carry on, knowing already how much easier it is to get away with and prove, than your “typical” murderWell I guess because she’s not there caught by somebody, holding a syringe and manically laughing with hands in claws around her face…
independent decision by the single department lead in this particular hospital if so, can’t help there I’m afraid. Legally - absofeckinglutelynot.
Same, it’s the parents for E too, I haven’t been able to get the mum out my head, especially after listening to the podcast. How must the mum feel sitting knowing she was right that night about E, but listened and trusted LL. Having to listen to the experts say that LL physically hurt her baby so badly he was heavily bleeding. The fact she even thanked LL, she must be so traumatised having to sit and listen to all this, thinking about the fact that LL went after both her babies, especially after seeing the mum’s total devastation after E, and then still went after F. The fact it was LL did the memory box which is now forever tainted, and letting her bath the baby, she must be sick to her stomach hearing and thinking about it. And now having to listen to the FB searches that were made for her too. That mum must be totally traumatised at the minute listening to all this, it makes me sick so what’s it like for herJust can’t wrap my head around the incidents with baby E and F
utterly heartbreaking
and of course all the other awful evil things she did to the babies between F and L. There’s some really traumatic stuff coming up from G onwards, there’s a real shift in her crueltyOh it was awful. I think they should have protected her a bit better from knowing what had happened to her. I’m not sure she needed to know but maybe that is patronising of me to say. Poor lady. Poor poor family too.
As a nurse you don’t sign for something if you aren’t there or the one administrating the medication. In 15 years practice I’ve never seen this before. It’s bad practice and could lead to her defence
Not anywhere close enough for him to have been mistaken for child F or for the dose to have been that wrong or for it to have been administered in that way.
Queue - he doesn’t have to prove who it was, only cast doubt. Oh jolly good, let’s ignore everything pointing to the fact it very clearly is her then
and just keep saying it alllll could have been someone else or something else every single time. No reasonable doubt to me. Just unreasonable doubt 
I still don’t think it’s just (another) coincidence that she started killing (allegedly) again, right after child A’s review as soon as she was back from hols, I think reliving that gives her a high, the same as the texts
