See this, along with leaving her own patient and being told to leave the parents repeatedly is really quite concerning to me.
See this, along with leaving her own patient and being told to leave the parents repeatedly is really quite concerning to me.Yes, I think that’s right. She had been texting earlier saying she wanted to be in room 1.
I know you say you aware of the Rebecca Leighton case, however, Rebecca was only the accused for a short space of time in comparison to Letby (horrendous all the same). The police and prosecution did get this wrong but once further evidence came to light the charges against her were dropped after five months. It never went to trial I believe ? And some ones else was responsible. Her’s was a case of the wrong person not that there wasn’t a poisoner or murderer at work. The police have been piecing evidence together for 7 years! The insulin incidents show that someone was deliberately hurting these babies! If it wasn’t Letby I think it’s likely after years they would have had another suspect in mind. It’s all pointing to her.I’m still unsure- but open minded.
I’m reminded very much of the Rebecca Leighton case and can see how easily someone can be suspected of something they then turn out to have nothing to do with. Not saying LL is innocent, but I think more compelling evidence is still to come if she’s guilty.
As always- appreciating the discussions and thoughts from either side. And thanks for the new thread and the wiki @Tofino
I agree - and attacks continued after she was suspended.I know you say you aware of the Rebecca Leighton case, however, Rebecca was only the accused for a short space of time in comparison to Letby (horrendous all the same). The police and prosecution did get this wrong but once further evidence came to light the charges against her were dropped after five months. It never went to trial I believe ? And some ones else was responsible. Her’s was a case of the wrong person not that there wasn’t a poisoner or murderer at work. The police have been piecing evidence together for 7 years! The insulin incidents show that someone was deliberately hurting these babies! If it wasn’t Letby I think it’s likely after years they would have had another suspect in mind. It’s all pointing to her.
True- but if the actual killer in that case had just stopped murdering people as soon as Rebecca Leighton was charged then they possibly could have continued with prosecuting her. She obviously did enough to justify a charge but she was innocent. A lot of what ifs, and in some ways no they’re not comparable. But there’s a lot we don’t know about what has actually happened at the hospital LL was at and really I think a lot of it is stuff we won’t find out until after their investigation has ended, which could take years.I appreciate your opinion but, honestly,though she did go through hell....this case is enormous and investigation gone on for years. She was in custody 6 weeks or so before charges dropped...I personally don't think it compares, but appreciate we all have our thoughts and opinions and I honestly want to feel unsure, but just can't right at this moment sadly.
I didn’t realise you had replied much the same as me sorry @EllsBellsWellsI appreciate your opinion but, honestly,though she did go through hell....this case is enormous and investigation gone on for years. She was in custody for a short period, allbeit too long, before charges dropped...I personally don't think it compares, but appreciate we all have our thoughts and opinions and I honestly want to feel unsure, but just can't right at this moment sadly.
I think the Dr had written ??sepsis which I take to mean that although there were some minor signs that could point to sepsis, among other things, these were not sufficient to indicate this even approaching a firm diagnosis. I believe Baby C’s lactose levels were falling so that would likely indicate that sepsis was even less probable.Thank you @Tofino for making a new thread.
Notes for Child C include 'suspected sepsis' and 'jaundice'. I can confirm that jaundice is very common in prem babies - I had it, looked like a Simpson for a while but was absolutely fine. But sepsis is a lot more concerning. The nurse said that there were no significant concerns before the shift began. Is this not a contradiction? I'm confused.
We must have responded at same time, I didn't realise eitherI didn’t realise you had replied much the same as me sorry @EllsBellsWells
Air by a baby’s spine isn’t circumstantialHow can it be circumstantial when each and every baby collapsed within 2-15 minutes of her being around them? It’s all there in the prosecutions case.
Circumstancial evidence definition from google (won't trust myself to summarise from memory as I did an A level in law some time agoHow can it be circumstantial when each and every baby collapsed within 2-15 minutes of her being around them? It’s all there in the prosecutions case.
It's not direct evidence and falls into circumstantial imo.Air by a baby’s spine isn’t circumstantial
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It’s very annoying. Would save having to refresh the page for a whole hour tooMinor annoyance given the subject matter being discussed in these threads, but I wish the court reporter would actually state when they break for lunch and what time they are expected back. Some days he does give an update saying court has now broken for lunch but only about 5 mins before they resume after an hour long break. I tend to check in on lunchbreak so it's good to know where it is at when is am trying to catch up.
Edit to add...he has just done exactly that. 2.02pm and said court has broken for lunch and is resuming at 2.05...3 mins later.
‘I can’t remember why I refreshed the page every 3 seconds officer’It’s very annoying. Would save having to refresh the page for a whole hour too
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