Lucy Letby #62 Guilty

[nothinonyou]

can't find the post now sorry but someone suggested LL might be adopted, don't think so cos she's the spit of her parents!

 

[pudz]

One of many lurkers here. You've all been great throughout. Saw this article just now though, hadn't been shared yet..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/18/lucy-letby-lock-hair-baby-murdered-parents/

Lucy Letby murdered a baby, then gave a lock of his hair to his parents along with photos she had taken without their knowledge, the mother has revealed.

 

[Windowtothewall]

It seems panorama doc was shot before the trial even started and that’s why it falls so flat. I also wonder if Dawn still feels the same hearing the verdict. I thought she must be so dumb but as my partner rationally pointed out, LL is her child’s god mother and it must turn your entire reality to accept you chose Britain’s most prolific child killer as your baby’s god parent. Head duck really. So I wonder if she’ll prefer to stay in denial or face reality. Rest of the doc was nothing ground breaking - hoping future docs will be better as more comes to light.

Dr B’s emotion was so raw and real, it enrages me that narcisstic has-beens like Dickwad Gill and others are accusing him and the other doctors of murder!!

 

[Blockedbyadmin]

Would they get witness protection or something like that? They’ll have to move away. I’d say their house is covered in eggs and red paint as we speak.

Parents of criminals don’t get protection

 

[A mega Pint]

But she was named in court?

she can’t be sued for being named in court.

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Sorry again merailing
Regarding the comforter and the childhood
This is a long one I’m sorry

Point 1) the comforter
Narcissists often infantilise themselves as a method of retaining control. She’s sat in the dock on trial for 22 counts of murder/attempt murder, her using a bleeping blanket is just a way to make herself look vulnerable, small, sweet and harmless. Narcs control everything, down to the opinion of those around them, by using that blanket or whatever it is, she’s allowing any niggling doubt to cross the minds of the jury, the parents even down to the court ushers and screws that entertainer her in. My old friend used to suck her thumb to garner the same reaction. It’s nothing but mind games

2) childhood
I don’t think she’s had anything other than an idyllic childhood, she’s probably been a vindictive devious jealous little b all her life, but her parents have clearly indulged her and put her on this pedestal. Allowing her to always be a victim, always the one wronged, all eyes on her. Same as my old friend. Great childhood, parents who thought the sun shone out of her a. They use it to their advantage, they can adapt this persona easily, it will get them everywhere in life, they are never the problem, it’s always someone else’s fault. Then once they’ve convinced the majority that they’re sweet, innocent and kind, they can turn on those who see through them

Abit of me railing now myself but this touched a nerve. My fellas family are like this. I'm someone who calls out bull and cuts people off at the first sniff of nonsense including my own parents. They always treated me a kind of way and it took a long time for me to realise it was because they knew I'd see through the bull, how he's treated differently to others in the family etc and I'd in no uncertain terms let him know that.

I wondered for ages what it was I'd done so wrong when I'd done nothing but be respectful and nice to them all. Why they would try put things in my head in the hopes I'd leave him. Even tried to convince him our baby wasn't his. Even after baby came out with his whole entire face (not that there'd have been any doubt my end regardless) I'm talking calanders with my so called period dates and spread sheets the LOT.

To everyone else they seem such a lovely close family bunch but I see it for what it is so me and my children are outcasts. I'm horrible, paranoid, a head case. I've never so much as said a sware word to these people even when I was being slandered and told directly I’m spiteful, disgusting, horrible etc.

 

[F1Grid]

Which children did the jury find her not guilty on ?.
im shocked some got not guilty I bet it’s sad for those parents .

1 attempt on Child G, 1 attempt on Child H.

The NG count for Child G was the one where the baby was left behind a screen after the doctors had finished cannulating her and the nurse said actually LL didn't turn the monitor off, the doctors apologised for turning it off. She was found G by majority on the other 2 accounts of attempted murder.

The NG count for Child H was the one where she suddenly desaturated in the night. No verdict on the other count where Baby H desaturated with pink tinged secretions around the mouth.

I think the screen/monitor incident has introduced reasonable doubt in the count on G, and I thought H's case was a bit difficult to follow from what we got from the prosecution.

Other hung verdicts were attempted murders of Child J (alleged suffocation), Child K (26 weeker who died later at Arrowe), 2x Child N (Baby with haemophilia who begun bleeding profusely), Child Q (Overfed with clear fluid and air embolus).

I'm surprised at Child K, and I was in court for part of Child Q and thought the prosecution made it pretty clear with him as well. N I can see confusion because the jury are confused about the haemophilia, and J because there's no definites but it adds up.

 

[Mardymermaid]

The dad thing is so weird the fact she took her dad to fight her corner the fact they listened. Its either that ridiculous on a higher up level that they let letbys dads threats stick or there's something more going on. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[mRsKbRoOkS]

Interview with Dr Ravi! More detailed imo around the grievance than I’ve heard on other interviews. His last comment is heart breaking