Lucy Letby #5

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Yes, sadly deaths will still occur, which is only to be expected. It’s the frequency and manner of these particular deaths that seems to be unusual.
This is why I have cast a vote of guilty although I will try to be open-minded as I usually am, but although I know neonatal care babies are very poorly, to have this amount like that in one year is obviously out of the ordinary. I’m sure other hospitals don’t have it like this and it was obviously strange for the hospital and colleagues to question it. If she was the one member of staff to factor every time and babies making progress suddenly became sick again in her presence, she’s clearly guilty.
 
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Yes, I understand. We were getting numerous texts. Even phone calls.
Your manager should not be pressuring you like that. Refuse. They soon learn who will easily cave and who won’t.
 
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Yes, I understand. We were getting numerous texts. Even phone calls.
Your manager should not be pressuring you like that. Refuse. They soon learn who will easily cave and who won’t.
Ive now become the manager specifically because I want to improve staff wellbeing so that practice like the above doesn’t make staff feel pressured into working an unsafe amount of hours. But I know that it’s still common place in the hospital and it’ll take a long time to change the way the nhs works - if it ever changes
 
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100% agree. It’s definitely feeling future proofed and I don’t blame you regarding the (a) (b) (c), it makes so much sense and it also fits with the categorising of those poor babies too. So makes it’s foolproof for late comers to understand.
 
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I agree. I've said exactly the same as this since thread 1.
There's only justice when those are held accountable for their actions, whether that be LL, the hospital or both.

This is really not about my sensibilities and no need to pick that from my comment, I've raised many comments on Tattle trial threads. My original comment that you've picked up on was in response to someone else, 'why so many people think she's innocent'. At this point, I don't think she is innocent, but this is not one sided and I'm willing to hear the rest of the case, along with evidence IN FULL including her defence.
We've literally only heard the opening speech.

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I’m not disagreeing and am actually thinking along the same lines as you. Maybe I’m cynical but I’ve no problem with believing she’s guilty but I do plan to listen to all sides.
 
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Absolutely. How many rape cases do you hear about where the CPS won’t take it any further, where there IS evidence but not enough to be damming in their eyes or is deemed too ambiguous. As a result many victims are extremely reluctant to come forward and press charges.

There must be so much more to this that’s yet to be revealed or for legal reasons can’t be.
 
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Absolutely
 
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