Just curious what brought you here in the first place? Isn’t it a bit peculiar to start Googling the name of someone you chat to down the gym
Just curious what brought you here in the first place? Isn’t it a bit peculiar to start Googling the name of someone you chat to down the gymHi can assure you mate I am not Alec just someone who knows him
Thought the same, I would be be very concerned if I was Logan’s relatives living with a nutter such as Rhys Davies, we have already seen how he treated his previous girlfriend and her daughter ,,, hopefully Shans relatives are watching over Logan x
I didn't Google Alec's name it was actually Googling the twins that brought me here. As I said I discovered the twins through Alec's Instagram and have watched this thread on and off ever since. I do love seeing the shit the twins post and then the stuff you guys write about them afterJust curious what brought you here in the first place? Isn’t it a bit peculiar to start Googling the name of someone you chat to down the gym
How do you know that?well Lauren hasn’t allowed any contact between her daughter and Rhys since the split it seems and that speaks volumes
Come off it Alec, we aren’t all braindead as the tinpot twins in here.I didn't Google Alec's name it was actually Googling the twins that brought me here. As I said I discovered the twins through Alec's Instagram and have watched this thread on and off ever since. I do love seeing the shit the twins post and then the stuff you guys write about them afterbut after seeing Alec's name dragged through the mud repeatedly I thought OK maybe I should step in and say something now just as it seems unfair that he gets shit when he hasn't actually done anything wrong or not that I know of anyway.
I'd say portraying yourself as a successful "coach" as if that's your main area of income and expertise, when actually you work as a PT in a local gym, and have a property thing on the side *IS* doing something wrong. Just like the twins, it's misrepresenting yourself as a tool to hook in people to become codependent on very expensive "coaching" services who's value is questionable. Whether you call that "it's just business" or "scamming people at a vulnerable life stage" is up to you. I know where I am on it.I didn't Google Alec's name it was actually Googling the twins that brought me here. As I said I discovered the twins through Alec's Instagram and have watched this thread on and off ever since. I do love seeing the shit the twins post and then the stuff you guys write about them afterbut after seeing Alec's name dragged through the mud repeatedly I thought OK maybe I should step in and say something now just as it seems unfair that he gets shit when he hasn't actually done anything wrong or not that I know of anyway.
I've been reading on here for a while and feel now is my time to say something not about the twins but about Alec Witts. I know Alec as he is a PT in my local gym and it was through his Instagram I discovered the twins. I just want to put out that Alec is a genuine down to earth nice guy. He is not a "scammer" and is nothing like the twins. Nothing like them. For a start Alec actually has real clients. I've seen first hand in the gym him training clients and how he is with them and he's certainly not a cunt to them. Secondly he doesn't beg for clients the way the twins do and I know this as I once asked him to provide some coaching to my friend who lacks confidence and direction in life but unless my friend made the first move Alec wasn't going to offer his services, something that no doubt would of gone very differently if I had asked the twins to help him. Llewellyn also cheated on his ex partner partner didn't he. Cheating on a partner is something that Alec Witts totally despises and I know this as he told me that himself. Someone said something about his behaviour a while back when he went on a night out with Matt Hall and spoke negatively about the way he was partying in a club..... so what??? he's a single lad with no kid's, partner or real commitments. He is also a hard worker putting in genuine long hours in a real job and on top of that actually has his own business unlike the twins. A successful property business. Yes he was coached by Llewellyn but Chocolatedummygod didn't you say the following................
The problem is most of these peoples clients (or at least clients they used to have) are easily manipulated and often not usually in a good place mentally. They capitalize on this weakness like leeches.
Maybe Alec wasn't in a good place mentally when he first met Llewellyn. There also certainly wasn't a tattle thread about the twins back then and they would of met way before all the SA shit happened so there would of been no real way to find out what a bastard conman Llewellyn is. Maybe after some time of working with him he wanted to get out but couldn't? Maybe Llewellyn made it difficult for him to leave? Anyway I just wanted to put out there that Alec is no where near in the same league as them terrible twats. He is probably the nicest guy I've ever met and doesn't appear to have a bad bone in his body, trust me I'm used to being around bad people so I know straight away when a good one comes along. If you still feel that Alec cons or scams people then go down to his local gym and ask some of his clients if they feel like they have been conned. I'm 100% sure they will tell you otherwise.
Wonderfully putHi Alec. Let's not play silly games, we all know it's you. So obvious.
A guy you briefly met in the gym is also the nicest guy you've EVER met!?!?!? LOL
No need to play the 'I'm a mate from the gym' card. Let's leave that there for a start. Just be honest, it would do you SO MUCH good to just come here as you, instead of doing a Rhys Davies and hiding behind a fake name like this.
Let me start by saying you do not need a Tattle thread to know the twins are scamming cunts. The only thing that can attract people to them is the whole flashy watch bullshit, money first morals second is their whole brand, always has been.
My view is if you honstly can't spot that these two are cunts from day 1, you're not fit to advise vunerable people on decision making in their lives either.
Maybe you were in a bad place mentally but I can't excuse the fact the the tactics and 'coaching' templates you use, are lifted straight out of the tinpot twins handbook, which we all know is a load of shit. You learnt to 'coach' from them.
The flashing of watches, cars and topless gym shots are all used as bait to suck vulnerable people in. In my opinion, it's not ethical.
Now it is my assumption that you charge ridiculously high fees as advised by them, upfront payments for 6-12 months, all that scammy crap, for very basic goal setting and accountability, with very little ground floor business experience other than renting and buying properties. Perhaps you can clear that up for us all?
To be fair I'd say you seem like the most 'normal' and reasonable guy out of all the wankers in this whole circle of fake coaches but that does not exclude the fact you were knowingly participating in a huge scam that resulted in many people losing vast sums of money and more.
You even put out a gushy post about how great Llewy is, thanking him when you parted ways. I'm guessing at this point you knew he was a massive cunt like 99.999% of planet earth.
This kind of behavior only reinforces social proof for these imbeciles and sets them up to take on more victims. That's not OK.
If you are the good guy you say you are lets see you call these guys out, or at least make some kind of statement of the wrong doing you got tied up in with them, even if it's on here rather than you SM account.
I respect we don't know your clients and maybe you claim that you didn't 'offer' your services to someone who lacked confidence but if you don't think they are ready or coach-able, maybe outright turn them away instead of wait for them to sign up and not offer them services.
Just my opinion. Guilty by aware association.
Cut by the same cloth!I'm sure both twatty twins have shared almost identical posts to that in the past
He may well have left the inner circle but still clearly plays by the same rulebook.
Steve Burgess’ scam is to lure them in with this 12 days of Christmas crapness then start charging ridiculous amounts for anyone who falls for it. Matt Hall was charging his 1-1 victims £750 a month for his access to Google, and his charges are going up in 2022…get in now! NOTHonestly Steve Burgess and his 12 days of Christmas Crapness just shows how uneducated this man is in business.
Clearly he's reading here as I can see how some of his recent posts reflect what has been said here. Hi Steve!
If you look at all his advice during that 12 days, its just surface level stuff anyone with an ounce of sense knows.
Lots about what to do:
- Be healthy
- Don't get distracted
- Become the person you need to become
- Set goals you can measure
- Learn how to deal with overwhelm
Practically nothing about how to do most of this stuff which is how a real coach would help.
This is the problem with these fake coaches that claim to be the person to help you achieve your dreams. They talk a lot about the what but give almost no tools or systems to help you with the how, which is the real tough bit.
Sure if you need motivation to get out of bed or an accountability partner, these people can help, but im guessing they charge fees that reflect a way more experienced and well planned trackable coaching program that they are simply not capable of delivering.
The only reason these guys have supposedly coached hundreds of people is because 99% of people leave their services within a year when they realise its all hot air, and you have to pick up new blood.
High churn as a business coach is not a good sign. If you're that good, why do most people seem to appear and leave so quickly, often on bad terms?
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