Lily Allen #2

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I think once they grew up and no longer needed such constant supervision and attention she demanded them back. For likes, basically.
 
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Lily crying when Billie Elisih has healthy food on her rider?
And I think we all know how Lily would have reacted to Alison being her momager!
How ridiculous, just be grateful for what you have!
I dunno, it seems she was parented very badly. Yes if all of a sudden her distant and uninterested mum was caring and present she may well have kicked off about it but it seems a lot of her behaviour was a response to the general middle-class negligence she experienced growing up. So maybe if they were close it would have been different. We all just want our parents to love us.
 
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Ugh I thought lily came across as really immature in the "kink" episode, chuckling about using sex workers...GROSS
 
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I like the podcast but the kink episode was honestly abysmal. The topic should have been avoided if literally the only thing they had to talk about was.. having sex on a stool.
 
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I can't decide if Miquita was being supportive or a frenemy when Lily said she's not zeitgeisty and she suggested otherwise?

Lily is right that she's a ghost of Christmas past and not in the zeitgeist at the moment - unlike most of the others on the VIP balcony seeing Charli XCX. There's nothing wrong with being a celeb not still right up there, no one is forever.
 
I don't think Lily is revealing her "kink" to get ahead of potential tabloid gotchas. I think it's all part of her exhibitionism and craving for male attention. Same with her competing with Miquita when they were younger - she just HAD to have whoever her supposed best friend fancied.

I remember an edition of The Big Fat Quiz Of The Year where she blabbed about possibly being pregnant (turned out she was, I think) then joked that nah, "you can't get pregnant if you do it in the bum" which had Russell bleeping Brand sleazing all over her and she loved it because she was the Queen of male attention.

If she was really over all that, she would just shut up and not be bringing her current relationship into it.
 
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The sex worker thing is definitely coke related. Surely she could have found willing sex partners that she didn’t have to pay / exploit though?
There must be hundreds of women who want to lezz it up with a celebrity, maybe still a bit exploitative due to the power imbalance but also must be lots of celebs at her level who would be up for some drug fuelled experimentation too .
Weird flex to pay for it. I never understood why rich and famous pay for sex
 
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The sex worker thing is definitely coke related. Surely she could have found willing sex partners that she didn’t have to pay / exploit though?
There must be hundreds of women who want to lezz it up with a celebrity, maybe still a bit exploitative due to the power imbalance but also must be lots of celebs at her level who would be up for some drug fuelled experimentation too .
Weird flex to pay for it. I never understood why rich and famous pay for sex
It's because the sex worker is literally a professional, you negotiate what you want, you pay them and they won't run to the Daily Mail to try and cash in afterwards.
 
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It's because the sex worker is literally a professional, you negotiate what you want, you pay them and they won't run to the Daily Mail to try and cash in afterwards.
That’s really sad. What a weird limbo land they live in, zero intimacy or genuine connection in those exchanges but also in exchanges with people who they don’t pay leaves them vulnerable to exposure or fake friends, lovers, partners etc.
And even with sex workers, loads have gone to the media about their exploits with the famous folks
 
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That’s really sad. What a weird limbo land they live in, zero intimacy or genuine connection in those exchanges but also in exchanges with people who they don’t pay leaves them vulnerable to exposure or fake friends, lovers, partners etc.
And even with sex workers, loads have gone to the media about their exploits with the famous folks
It is absolutely linked to her adhd. Looking for domaine. There isn’t a joy in it but it’s about finding something and connecting - drugs, sex and booze early stages and trying to understand it from a non ND space is hard but honestly hearing her now is amazing - I can appreciate that when you don’t know - you look for validation and highs without factoring in the reality. I love that Lilly is in a good place (that we can see). Because those lows are so low - internally and ethically - and searching for the highs to take you away from yourself. The more you can support in the early stages ..DO IT, IT IMBEDS IN YOUR SOUL.
 
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It is absolutely linked to her adhd. Looking for domaine. There isn’t a joy in it but it’s about finding something and connecting - drugs, sex and booze early stages and trying to understand it from a non ND space is hard but honestly hearing her now is amazing - I can appreciate that when you don’t know - you look for validation and highs without factoring in the reality. I love that Lilly is in a good place (that we can see). Because those lows are so low - internally and ethically - and searching for the highs to take you away from yourself. The more you can support in the early stages ..DO IT, IT IMBEDS IN YOUR SOUL.
lol I am nd, And I understand dopamine seeking having lived my whole life this way including addictive behaviour .
but still can question use of sex workers when you only need to click your fingers to get anyone to do your bidding from a position of power .
I love Steve coogan but some of his behaviour will always sit uncomfortably with me especially when he is so vocal about socialism and human rights
 
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Lily on the most recent episode "I come from a fairly middle class background"

YOU WENT TO BOARDING SCHOOL
There's a bit in Ab Fab when Eddie says to Saffy when she's being boring something like “Darling I sent you to BEDALES for God’s sake!” That was Lily's school.
 
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I was going to say no, it’s because she has daddy issues, but I’ve just looked it up and there’s only ten years age difference. He looks a lot older than she does.
I think she likes a man who seems older and fatherly for sure…I don’t think she’s with him exclusively for security but put it this way - I don’t think she’d be with him if he wasn’t well-off. It was a big draw for her after being the breadwinner and living beyond her means.
 
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