Yeah, the focus was heavily on Cheryl being the rock and organising everything as if she was his wife when reality was, Kate and him were together for longer and more recent. He clearly loved her if he wrote a goal for 2025 was to get engaged.
Obviously because of Bear, Cheryl was involved and was in contact with his family most likely because Liam was supervised with Bear but I don’t know, at the time I felt sad for Kate. People were acting like Cheryl’s world is destroyed by losing the love of her like and while it is, it’s for Bear, not for her.
I think of my uncle who passed quite young and had a similar personal situation with ex wife with his son and a new girlfriend. His girlfriend organised a lot with the whole family and his ex wife came as support for his son. We didn’t erase the fact that he loved his girlfriend, probably actually more that he did his wife. Haha.
I find it weird the papers kept saying how Cheryl had paved the way for the other 1D boys to reconcile at Liams wake back at his house, I kinda think it was PR spin for her though because Im sure the boys wouldn't need her to bring them together at the wake which was in a private place.
Also having gone down a rabbit hole of his relationships - I agree I think he loved Cheryl as mother of his child plus she seems a good mum keeping their son out of the limelight, albeit she seems a bit controlling on the whole Bear front and reading between the lines in many of Liams interviews once they splut I get the feelign that she is very controlling and makes the decisions. When he got with Mya he said in a few interviews his last relationship - Cheryl was with someone who cared far too much about how she came across and with papparrazzi etc and he was so happy to be with someone more carefree who he could go out and enjoy himself with and be free not caring about paps etc. He also spoke of how they disagreed on bears name - he wanted traditional she wanted unusual and hes called bear. He wants privace but is also more open to posting and talking whereas she isnt, he was open about their relationship too and there is many stories of her being angry at him for saying too much in interviews etc. Given her history of also being bossy with her exes and moving her mum in, I really don't see their relationship being the amazing fairytale that would have gave him the happy ending and life he desired. I stand by what I have said before in previous posts - she saw an opportunity with him and took it to have a child, and once she got what she wanted - Bear, she didn't really care if it worked out with Liam or not. Imo he would have been better matched with someone in the normal world - many articles in 1D early days he often talked of eventually marrying and kids, I think his failure to find a thriving and fulfilly life (which inluded the stepford family life with white picket fence) beyond 1D and the fake world of fame will have contributed to his mental health, not been the sole factor but I believe his lack of family life with his son and lack of an actual family life byond his parents and siblings (who all have loving partners they married and started a family with) contributed to his depression etc. Cheryl was not the best person to pro-create with as they were never going to have the family life he seemd to crave - she wanted sole control of parenting and a nice home with her mum and brother, perhaps she wanted him as part of it but I doubt he wanted her mum with them 24/7. I think initially he hoped for her to come with him to usa abd be a mother/housewife while he woked on his solo career but cheryl is not into the usa life and being away from home (UK). He said in multiple interviews and podcasts about her living out there in his calabassas home when pregnant but again she couldnt be an adult and be with her partner alone, he talked of her mum being there too. She was never going to substain a relationship with anyone with her mother around all the time, but like i said, I beleive she didn't care for a long term relationship with him or anyone once she got her goal - a baby. I also feel she needs to watch and not become one of they toxic boy moms - the way she has said in interviews she doesnt need a valentine as her son is her dream man, when asked another time when somthing happnes who the 1st person she would call and she says "me son as he always has something to say" its kind of creepy. She will probably be the type to not like his gf or partners as it is competition for her time and affection. He had 2 major relationships after her that lasted a few years each and Maya he was even engaged to yet they never met his son. Super weird. When you have split and move on then you have to accept that your ex will have a new partner that will become a step parent to your child but I bet cheryl would not allow any one else access or to be involved.
As for Maya - I stilll dont believe everything she alleges. I do believe they had a toxic relationship but I think she was just as toxic as him. He was no angel but he was not what she is making him out to be. she is another amber heard & blake livey, fabricating stories cos people will blindly beleive all women despite NO evidence! If you go down the rabbit hole of her she was with Austin Mahone for a long time and at one point was seeing both him and Liam at same time. There are runours she ruined what little career he had left once they split but also many allegations and time stamps in her book are linked to her time with him and not Liam. She would never get the "fame" or attention on her book with it being based on multiple ex boyfirneds or just Austin himself, she will only get the attention with saying it is based on Liam. There is no way to prove what she is saying is truth or for him to prove she is lying so she can say what she wants. Abortions are a tablet these days unless she was quite far along then it would be surgical so that part of her story is either full lie or fabricated. Given his nature I doubt he would so callously leave her just bleeding, he could easily have her taken to hospital and none of it would come out because it is against both UK and USA law to publicly declare someones health issues hence many of Liams previous substance od's etc have been announced as kidney issues and such.
I actually like Kate's tik tok she seemd genuine. The interview wasnt so good but she is not used to them, she is more used to the shorter vlogs/tik tok reels that she can curate herself so could have been nerves etc.
this thread in general is just very heated at times 
