Lewis Burton

[TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo]

Well look she admitted whacking him over the head that night, with what still remains unclear. She says phone, he said lamp. Yes she self harmed that night but self harming in front of someone is also a form of mental abuse and manipulation. I feel she was a very damaged girl who had a history of volatile relationships, she was someone who had a lot of issues and unfortunately felt she had no other way out. There was clearly enough evidence that an assault took place in order for CPS to press charges. I don’t understand why they were vilified for doing their job and she was beatified for committing assault. There seems to be no balance to it all anymore, the minute she died her offence was forgotten and her death was blamed solely on trolls. It was literally stated at her inquest that she took her own life as she had spiralled to such a degree that the thoughts of the body cam footage being made public was causing her such turmoil. Whatever was on there would likely have been career ending. Anyway I feel a bit ick still discussing it to this day because the girl is gone. But the airbrushing on social media and the be kind nonsense is baffling. Yes be kind of course, but also be critical, question things and don’t take tit from people. Her actions deserved to be investigated.

There are things we agree on. I am aware that self harm can be used to manipulate. The person who was violent to me used threats of harm and attempted suicide twice. The latter of the two was nearly successful. I don't doubt that although he wanted to gain my attention, he was also mentally unwell.

I also agree that the police were doing there job and should not have faced the criticism they did. The ability for the police to press charges without victim consent was long fought for and has good, sound sense behind it.

Where we disagree is that we shouldn't discuss it. Only by discussing things can these topics be kept in the light. Whilst we may not agree on some stuff, I presume we agree that she was unwell. Not all mental health concerns are palatable. In the right context a discussion about mental ill health, what can be learnt and how to help people should always be on the table.

 

[tskiry56]

Well look she admitted whacking him over the head that night, with what still remains unclear. She says phone, he said lamp. Yes she self harmed that night but self harming in front of someone is also a form of mental abuse and manipulation. I feel she was a very damaged girl who had a history of volatile relationships, she was someone who had a lot of issues and unfortunately felt she had no other way out. There was clearly enough evidence that an assault took place in order for CPS to press charges. I don’t understand why they were vilified for doing their job and she was beatified for committing assault. There seems to be no balance to it all anymore, the minute she died her offence was forgotten and her death was blamed solely on trolls. It was literally stated at her inquest that she took her own life as she had spiralled to such a degree that the thoughts of the body cam footage being made public was causing her such turmoil. Whatever was on there would likely have been career ending. Anyway I feel a bit ick still discussing it to this day because the girl is gone. But the airbrushing on social media and the be kind nonsense is baffling. Yes be kind of course, but also be critical, question things and don’t take tit from people. Her actions deserved to be investigated.

It’s hard to know what happened behind closed doors although I can say what Caroline did may of been to scare him accidental out of fear or to scare him.
I was in a situation where my then partner came home drunk after driving home from work. He threatened to take my child with him when I told him to leave. He then head butted me cutting my head open ...seeing the blood etc made him panic and he then threatened to self harm and I was worried about him! It’s a very difficult situation to be in and I never realised back then how manipulated I was.
Unfortunately for Caroline the media attention and tabloids had a massive impact on her already fragile state when in a ‘normal’ world out of the limelight she would of been able to get the support instead she was front page news.

 

[BW1990]

Well look she admitted whacking him over the head that night, with what still remains unclear. She says phone, he said lamp. Yes she self harmed that night but self harming in front of someone is also a form of mental abuse and manipulation. I feel she was a very damaged girl who had a history of volatile relationships, she was someone who had a lot of issues and unfortunately felt she had no other way out. There was clearly enough evidence that an assault took place in order for CPS to press charges. I don’t understand why they were vilified for doing their job and she was beatified for committing assault. There seems to be no balance to it all anymore, the minute she died her offence was forgotten and her death was blamed solely on trolls. It was literally stated at her inquest that she took her own life as she had spiralled to such a degree that the thoughts of the body cam footage being made public was causing her such turmoil. Whatever was on there would likely have been career ending. Anyway I feel a bit ick still discussing it to this day because the girl is gone. But the airbrushing on social media and the be kind nonsense is baffling. Yes be kind of course, but also be critical, question things and don’t take tit from people. Her actions deserved to be investigated.

This is absolutely spot on. However, given she is not here to be held accountable for what she did, and given her tit of a 'boyfriend' has quite quickly moved on and, at the time, he quite quickly moved on from the assault itself... are there now any merits in laboriously discussing whether we should tarnish her legacy with that one incident, when there is far more evidence that she brought a lot of love, happiness and character to so many people's lives?

She was quite obviously mentally ill and/ or suffering from some form of personality disorder - with the very limited information we have, it doesn't take much to figure that out. But that knowledge adds nothing to the fact there is largely overwhelming evidence that, on balance, she was a good person and her general legacy should be of that, and not of her final weeks.

 

[Whitepillowcase]

Caroline’s family have made a documentary with channel 4. It will be very telling as to who is included in this documentary.

 

[Chinese_whispers]

Caroline’s family have made a documentary with channel 4. It will be very telling as to who is included in this documentary.

I don’t know how I feel about this. I understand they’re grieving and they have a right to remember her how they please. I just can’t imagine this is something Caroline would like or consent to if she was alive.

 

[Vloggerfam]

I don’t know how I feel about this. I understand they’re grieving and they have a right to remember her how they please. I just can’t imagine this is something Caroline would like or consent to if she was alive.

Agreed and it’s all going to be very one sided and not level headed. Her mum was blaming the cps initially for example and then went on Instagram and was basically slagging off lewis on one of Caroline’s pictures

 

[dillydallywally]

Agreed and it’s all going to be very one sided and not level headed. Her mum was blaming the cps initially for example and then went on Instagram and was basically slagging off lewis on one of Caroline’s pictures

She was really mentally ill and it eventually killed her. It so sadly happens to many people and it’s heartbreaking, lots of people don’t know how to get help or can’t bring themselves to. To drag it up in a documentary doesn’t seem fair to her. Yes the press wrote stories, she had bad people around her who didn’t help her state of mind but ultimately she didn’t seek proper through treatment for her condition and it killed her. I’m pretty sure her drug taking and what happened with Lewis was all part of her episode. Seems sad to dredge it all up even more but maybe her mum felt the need to tell her side.

 

[Whitepillowcase]

Lots of people refer to drug taking but I have never read anything to say that. What makes people think she took drugs, has their been stories in the press?

 

[Lucmg01]

Lots of people refer to drug taking but I have never read anything to say that. What makes people think she took drugs, has their been stories in the press?

She was drug tested at police station which was negative also!

 

[StarrySkies]

I think I'd be making a documentary to clear my daughters name too. What the press did was wrong regardless

 

[ahtisyourself]

I wonder will they refer to the incident at all in the documentary or will it be all airbrushed out and paint her as a victim of trolling. Caroline had a very cushy and very privileged life up until that night in December when she was arrested for assault. That’s when it all spiralled for her as people were rightly disgusted with what happened

 

[Whitepillowcase]

@Letshavealuck what do you think about what Andrew Brady is doing at the moment, and that he has alluded to being threatened by Caroline’s friends. Do you think he is referring to Lou and Mollie?

 

[ShakiraShakira]

Mollie too had blood on her hands and is just as much a Lewis suck up. She lied in the Inquest said she doesn’t remember Caroline mentioning or being upset about the picture. That’s lies.
Also the common denominator between Flick Tomlinson and Caroline’s death. Mollie gave the both Xanax the night they died! Imagine that and getting on with your life like nothing happened. Posting party nights out and holidays when two young girl are dead ?

Poor Caroline. Sorry I’m new so I’m late replying to this but after reading I am shocked at her friends. Lou and Molly seem real party girls but I had no idea they sided with Lewis. Did they not even go to Caroline’s funeral?

There’s a lady on Instagram that was friends with Caroline, and still seems to be struggling. She’s also following Lou on there and vice versa, she was a close friend of Carolines I think but in a completely different circle. Lewis also follows her. When she posts things about Caroline they never like her posts and I’ve noticed if she likes or comments on their posts they ignore her. It’s a shame the good stable friends she had weren’t her main circle, I agree with what another poster has said, Molly and Lou give bad vibes.

 

[Letshavealuck]

Yes, I've just read it. It's incredibly long. It's interesting which sections different news outlets have chosen to print though.

He makes some really good points, particularly about media reporting, influencers and things people equate to success and I do think he's genuine in his feelings for Caroline and his motives. However, I also don't think he's in a very good place mentally. He goes off on a lot of tangents (which could be due to ADHD which he mentions in the post I suppose) and there are a fair few inappropriate comments in there too, especially towards the end.

I've previously thought he was a bit of a twerp but I've softened a bit. He was still quite young (early twenties I think) when he found 'fame' and he has clearly been very badly affected by media intrusion into his life. It's easy to find fault with people but sometimes experience of making the wrong choices is the only way to grow as a person. He does at least appear to take responsibility for things he has done in the past that he feels were wrong.

I hope he is able to be with those who care about him today.

Andrew sent Caroline a lamp in the post after she was arrested and a letter telling her she was a waste of space and toxic. He was a nasty piece of work and awful to Caroline and now using her death for some airtime. Yes he might be suffering with his mental health now because he is eaten up with guilt around what he did!

She admitted to the police the night she was arrested that she “whacked him over the head”.
Come on now. I know the girl is no longer here and that is sad but the rewriting of history and airbrushing of what went on is bizarre. We can agree that she was a flawed human who did something bad but didn’t deserve to feel such distress that she no longer wanted to be here. I don’t agree that she was some saintly paragon of kindness who was misunderstood and it was all a bit of nothing. It’s possible to think she did a bad thing that deserved to be investigated and also think it’s sad that she took her life over it.

that’s a complete lie! She hit him with her phone when she saw he was cheating on her. It was a once off moment not domestic violence or a serious assault !

 

[Vloggerfam]

Andrew sent Caroline a lamp in the post after she was arrested and a letter telling her she was a waste of space and toxic. He was a nasty piece of work and awful to Caroline and now using her death for some airtime. Yes he might be suffering with his mental health now because he is eaten up with guilt around what he did!



that’s a complete lie! She hit him with her phone when she saw he was cheating on her. It was a once off moment not domestic violence or a serious assault !

How do you know this?
If the lamp thing is true why’s he not all over the press for doing that

If this is true I don’t know how he’s now got the brass neck to be bleating on about how much he loved Caroline, talk about kicking someone when they are down

 

[Letshavealuck]

@Letshavealuck what do you think about what Andrew Brady is doing at the moment, and that he has alluded to being threatened by Caroline’s friends. Do you think he is referring to Lou and Mollie?

Yes that is true. When Caroline died he asked them to remove the lamp he send her so he wouldn’t be involved in causing her to kill herself and the did, so they have that over him!

How do you know this?
If the lamp thing is true why’s he not all over the press for doing that

If this is true I don’t know how he’s now got the brass neck to be bleating on about how much he loved Caroline, talk about kicking someone when they are down

the lamp is 100% true. It is not in the press as only a small circle of people know about it. People in her inner circle who she trusted. It was removed from the propert by her so called friends when she died!

 

[Vloggerfam]

Yes that is true. When Caroline died he asked them to remove the lamp he send her so he wouldn’t be involved in causing her to kill herself and the did, so they have that over him!



the lamp is 100% true. It is not in the press as only a small circle of people know about it. People in her inner circle who she trusted. It was removed from the propert by her so called friends when she died!

So where’s this guy getting off ranting about the press when he’s gone out of his way to do that? Scumbag move if true

 

[Letshavealuck]

So where’s this guy getting off ranting about the press when he’s gone out of his way to do that? Scumbag move if true

I think he wants to now come clean as he knows his tit behaviour played a part in her death.

 

[dillydallywally]

Yes that is true. When Caroline died he asked them to remove the lamp he send her so he wouldn’t be involved in causing her to kill herself and the did, so they have that over him!



the lamp is 100% true. It is not in the press as only a small circle of people know about it. People in her inner circle who she trusted. It was removed from the propert by her so called friends when she died!

Oh my gosh what an absolute wick. And her friends too... wow why would you remove stuff?! Caroline has surrounded herself with some really toxic people when she seemed to have a really down to earth lovely group of mates who had her back who were older and had known her for years. If only she’d have stuck with them rather than the younger mates who were probably in over their head with it all and also seem pretty bloody selfish. Feel like her situation would have been so different had she done that. But that’s mental illness for you. you can’t help but be attracted to people and things that are bad for you. Bless her.

 

[Whitepillowcase]

How do you know this?
If the lamp thing is true why’s he not all over the press for doing that

If this is true I don’t know how he’s now got the brass neck to be bleating on about how much he loved Caroline, talk about kicking someone when they are down

I absolutely believe that this is true. It explains his rant saying that he would then explain why he did those things if they leaked it and that they both did some horrible things to each other.

Yes that is true. When Caroline died he asked them to remove the lamp he send her so he wouldn’t be involved in causing her to kill herself and the did, so they have that over him!



the lamp is 100% true. It is not in the press as only a small circle of people know about it. People in her inner circle who she trusted. It was removed from the propert by her so called friends when she died!

It’s absolutely shocking, and explains why he is feeling so guilty now. The brass neck of him doing this now when in fact he probably did contribute hugely to how she felt. So very sad. Thank you for confirming