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BettyCrocker

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I do think the photos are staged but grief can bring people together also. I dont think that's necessarily the case though. I seen the pics of them in the DM earlier on and they look quite staged and just a bit of a kick in the face to Caroline's family
she’s a 21 year old kid who doesn’t know her arse from her elbow (i mean who does at 21?!) and he’s a man in his late 20’s who, 6 months ago lost his fiancé to suicide- a women who he claimed was the love of his life, his soul mate, the woman he was going to marry..... yet 6 months after her tragic death, here he is, grabbing the arse of a Girl who is young enough to have been Caroline’s daughter!

He just seems like an absolute knob.
 
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GeminiMoon

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So terribly sad that Caroline apparently thought the relationship was meaningful and significant but Lewis doesn’t appear to have felt quite the same way.

She lost her life as a result of a sequence of events and many different factors including her own mental health and poor decision-making - but the catalyst was a guy who’s groping a girl’s bum in Ibiza in a Daily Mail exclusive a mere 6 months after Caroline hung herself and a couple of weeks after the emotional inquest. He clearly doesn’t give a f*ck about what her family and loved ones think and feel. Didn’t he go to Ibiza with Caroline last summer? The timing of his reveal of his relationship with Lottie is utterly tasteless and I’d say, cruel.

I can understand responding to grief and these extraordinary events by entering into a new relationship, especially with someone who has experienced grief, but the public flaunting of their relationship is disrespectful. It’s obvious they’ve set up all these ‘exclusive’ photos up - the ones of them returning to his house, leaving her’s, in Ibiza - and the fact that Lottie was friends with Caroline makes it even worse. Is publicity and social media attention really worth trading your integrity and basic human decency? Where are there hearts in all this?

So terribly sad that Caroline apparently thought the relationship was meaningful and significant but Lewis doesn’t appear to have felt quite the same way.

She lost her life as a result of a sequence of events and many different factors including her own mental health and poor decision-making - but the catalyst was a guy who’s groping a girl’s bum in Ibiza in a Daily Mail exclusive a mere 6 months after Caroline hung herself and a couple of weeks after the emotional inquest. He clearly doesn’t give a f*ck about what her family and loved ones think and feel. Didn’t he go to Ibiza with Caroline last summer? The timing of his reveal of his relationship with Lottie is utterly tasteless and I’d say, cruel.

I can understand responding to grief and these extraordinary events by entering into a new relationship, especially with someone who has experienced grief, but the public flaunting of their relationship is disrespectful. It’s obvious they’ve set up all these ‘exclusive’ photos up - the ones of them returning to his house, leaving her’s, in Ibiza - and the fact that Lottie was friends with Caroline makes it even worse. Is publicity and social media attention really worth trading your integrity and basic human decency? Where are there hearts in all this?
*their!
 
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Letshavealuck

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He had previously seen a girl I know yes! There was a girl before Caroline. Divorcee, he borrowed 15k from her. Tricked her to investing in his company. She brought a case against him and he ended up paying the day before the case. He told everyone she was just bitter that he got with Caroline. Then he took vast amounts of money from Caroline about 40k and she was paying for everything. He turned all her friends against her saying she was crazy, when in reality he was gaslighting her and making her think she was crazy. She knew he was playing away and selling stories and he told her it was all in her head. He called the police to punish her when she found the texts on his phone. The girl I know he basically did the same. She supported him, and gave him financial help 40/50k after C died. When she found out he was a crook and tried to get her money back he told everyone she was just bitter he had found love with Lottie. He gave her a terrible time and became so nasty she had to report him to the police. The girl was suicidal! He’s a piece of work. Imagine posting a new year tribute to your new GF ( a mate of your dead girlfriends) less then a year after your girlfriend killed herself off the back of your toxic relationship ! Hope karma gets him for ruing so many lives. Every time I see him I want to vomit!
 
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ahtisyourself

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He moves fast. Caroline is only two years dead next week and he’s already moved on and knocked up someone else. It makes me so angry that she ended her life over what happened with this twat. The note she left read “I just want to be with Lewis”. I think he had moved on with Lottie within weeks. Slime ball.
 
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Mishka13

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Andrew has a lot to answer for. He published a NDA (after what happened with Lewis) saying he couldn’t speak about his and Caroline’s relationship, or Caroline at all, he posted the document, then later deleted it. Caroline’s management made him sign it after their many arguments and Caroline threatening suicide then. Andrew did also send a lamp to Caroline. He also tried to reach out to Lewis to go against Caroline, but Lewis told him to feck off.

Andrew has always been fame hungry.

So many men used Caroline, her book ‘Storm In A C Cup’ now reads so sad.

Lewis got caught out messaging other women and Caroline hit out. In Lewis’s words “You’re fucked” when he rang 999, then sending pictures of the bedroom to his ex, who took them to the papers was disgusting.

No, Caroline shouldn’t have lashed out at Lewis, she should have told him to fxck off out her life and leave.. and was probably at her whits end with another guy shitting all over her.

It’s just all so bloody sad.
 
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littlemiss80

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Lewis Burton is a complete psychopath.

he used a girl for money prior to Caroline. She started court proceedings. He tricked Caroline into lending him money to pay her off. Told Caroline it was a psycho who was jealous about Caroline and him getting together. Caroline leant the money. He tried to get Caroline to buy a house with him.

After Caroline’s death he then went on to get another girl to give him money. Saying Caroline’s family were coming after him for money on bills. The girl leant him the money. He also tried to buy a house with this girl saying he could get it with her so she could get the benefits of a first time buyer.

He then got with Lottie and when girl 3 found out and asked for her money back he refused. She got the police involved and he then got Lottie to pay the money back and told Lottie girl 3 was a physco that was just jealous he got with her. He then bought a house with Lottie.

Lottie he’s not in love with you. Lewis only loves himself. He’s a user and a conman. You are being utterly fooled! Just ask yourself how he talks about Caroline or girl 1 or 3? They are all physcos but maybe ask yourself was he posting about how fantastic they were just like you, right up till they pulled the financial plug ! They were only psychos when the money was gone. Also a guy who thinks every girl loves him and is just jealous when he’s with someone else. I think Lewis should invest in a mirror as what I’m seeing is a guy that looks a bit gypsy, greasy and very old for being in his 20s!
 
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Renegadedancer

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I don’t know this so I am guessing, but I think Carolines family knew exactly what he was like. He wasn’t invited to the funeral. I’m sure if they never saw him again they would be ok with that. He seems like a fame hungry wannabee
 
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GeminiMoon

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I don’t mean to sound insensitive and I’m aware that it is, but why should they care about the flacks and their feelings? They’re not their family, Lewis and Caroline clearly weren’t in a good place nor were they together for very long - he has been with Lottie a lot longer (unfortunately). It’s a very sad situation all round but I don’t think they owe the flacks anything.
I understand your points but I just feel it’s basic decency, empathy and choosing to treat others as you wish to be treated. Why cause harm if you can easily avoid it?

Lewis was pivotal in Caroline’s death, regardless of how long they were together (although how much of it was down to his behaviour and how much of it was down to her mental health is debatable).

I also think people go too easy on Lottie because of her tragic history. If anything, her experiences should have made her more considerate of the Flacks but they haven’t - she appears to have had no qualms going after her friend’s boyfriend mere weeks after her death and publicising their pregnancy days before the anniversary of her death.

I’ve had similar experiences to Lottie - doesn’t give me a pass to do what I want.
 
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Letshavealuck

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Why would she even have kept this lamp in the first place and not chucked it straight in the bin herself?! Sorry but anyone could come on here and make all sorts of claims and pretend they’re in the know, all while posting absolute shite. We have no idea of knowing who anyone is or what agenda they may have. Which is why I only go with what was written in the court reports and inquest. The facts remain; she hit him over the head with an object as he slept. She caused a wound. She went crazy, tore the place up, she self harmed, he feared for his life, she resisted arrest and threatened to kill herself in front of officers. She upturned a table in the station once cautioned. CPS pursued the case even without Lewis’ cooperation because they had evidence a violent incident took place. She put massive pressure on them to drop the charges and killed herself the day after learning this would be going to trial.

I’m a bit baffled at some of the comments on here. Of course it’s sad that she felt there was no other option and she didn’t wait to have her day in court where she could have cleared up any misunderstandings. Instead she decided to take her own life. I just don’t understand the “oh wow the poor girl” “her shit friends” “she should have had better people in her life”, narrative that is so pervasive on here.
Her friends didn’t make her assault lewis. Trolls didn’t make her assault Lewis. Caroline alone is responsible for how that night ended up and not Andrew, Lewis who was sleeping, trolls, her friends or the CPS. Caroline is.

I just cannot imagine the narrative being the same if it was Lewis who was rummaging through Caroline’s phone as she slept and threw it at her and caused her an injury after thinking he found messages to other men. If he then took his own life after learning he would be charged would people be saying “Oh the poor bloke” if that was the case? Of course not. People aren’t even saying that now even though he was the one who was assaulted in his sleep, had his girlfriend take her own life and people hate on him because he had the audacity to move on with his life and find happiness without Caroline.

It’s no wonder domestic violence against men isn’t taken seriously.
I think you need to get off your high horse when all you are reading is an inquest report which did discuss Andrew’s abuse. The police have not confirmed anything that happened on the night so you are in fact believing the tabloids ! The inquest (the facts you say you believed) did say that the police went beyond what was necessary !

as I know both people involved here and heard everything from the horses mouth what you have written about is bullshit.

as for the lamp. It’s actually something a lot of people know, her management and press included.
 
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Letshavealuck

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Ah Jesus, me get off my high horse? 😅 look you’re clearly bias here and have a very skewed perception of what went on as you seem to know the family/friends.
And why in gods name would the lamp Andrew sent be in the court reports?! That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she assaulted Lewis, which is what she was being charged for. “All you’re reading is the inquest report”.. yes.. the stuff that actually matters. Not made up jargon from an anonymous account on tattle. That and the court reports have all the relevant information in them and anyone with a balanced perception can agree that CPS were right to pursue charges based on what happened that night. Everything that happened after that with alleged lamps being sent is irrelevant and hear say. Like you’re shaming people for believing tabloids (which I don’t) but yet you’re on here on tattle writing waffle expecting to be believed.
Babe it was an inquest report which tried to find out the cause of her death and her mental state. It included the abuse from Andrew as it is relevant to her state of mind and that she was being tormented. Your info on the assault is not from the only valid thing that happened (an inquest) your info is actually just from the press and incorrect and flawed! And I’m not sure if you think tattle is nonsense why are you on it. Your attacking someone for actually trying to tell the truth in all this. That girl did not deserve what she got. Her only mistake was loosing her rag when she found out the months when she was being called nuts and humiliated he had been sleeping with a girl she knew. In a state of her world falling apart she threw a phone! She wasn’t perfect she was flawed but she didn’t deserve to loose her whole life because of it !
 
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Letshavealuck

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When with C he wanted her to buy a Range Rover. Now fitness what car Lottie just bought ? Oh funny that a Range Rover that Lewis is driving constantly. He then wanted them to buy a house together kept saying to C, you can put me on the house and I will get my first time buyers to save you money. Bingo now Lottie buys a house. Worrying is not the word. This guy operates a pyramid investment company he’s a slime and he’s after Lottie for one thing.
 
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Letshavealuck

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Ah stop you are hilarious at this point. You can’t back up one jot of what you’re saying yet you’re shaming me for believing media lies when I’m quoting the horses mouth, the prosecutor at the hearing. Everyone who believes the media is wrong according to you yet you think what you have to say should be believed and holds weight, despite you not being able to back up one thing you’re saying and being an anonymous account on tattle.
You’re clearly biased. There isn’t some big conspiracy here. She assaulted him, was charged, couldn’t handle the pressure and took her own life. This was all concluded at her inquest (you should know, you were there, lol) and her own mother agreed.

Ms Hassell said: "I find the reason for her taking her life was she now knew she was being prosecuted for certainty, and she knew she would face the media, press, publicity - it would all come down upon her. To me, that's it in essence."

Mrs Flack wept as she told the coroner over video-link: "I think you got it spot on.


I wonder would you be as dismissive if it was Lewis who “just hit Caroline with a phone” and saying it was “only a row”. Ridiculous. I’ve wasted enough time chatting with you. It’s pointless when you insist on denying reality and relying on rumours.
As I said I’m not relying on anything bar what I know as I know both and in fact would of originally like many been in Lewis corner rather then Carries but then I found out the truth and everything that went on and it’s the very reason I am not friends with these people as I was disgusted with how the behaviour and lies and manipulation made someone feel they had no options.

I also know that after she died Lewis moved on to abusing another girl who went to the police when he started threatening her. I know this as this girl came to me and Carries family.
I of course have proof of all this but I can’t share it as I would then reveal myself.

I know and agree with what the inquest said. Her family also agreed and conducted themselves incredibly well during it all. However Caroline’s mum said there was a lot she couldn’t say. And the judge said that the police went above what’s normal.

that’s all I am going to reply to because you seem like a very nasty piece of work and I don’t need to prove a thing to you!
 
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ahtisyourself

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It’s strange because I feel like while she did assault him and she deserved for be prosecuted for that, i have no sympathy for him. He’s a victim yes but after watching that I feel bad that he’s the guy Caroline chose to end her life over. He wasn’t worth it. He’s already peddling his new romance all over Instagram. I’ve said some unkind things towards her in the past but ultimately I think she was a complicated person who just wanted to be loved. What she did was wrong but I’m almost annoyed at her for taking her life over this, you know? She had so much more to give. I don’t blame anymore really, it was just a clusterfuck of disasters and if it wasn’t this then it would probably been something else that took her because she just seemed so vulnerable.
 
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StarrySkies

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I think I'd be making a documentary to clear my daughters name too. What the press did was wrong regardless
 
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Milliehaha123

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What I’m about to say is potentially controversial but 🤷🏽‍♀️

in terms of Caroline I think she was a mentally unwell individual who (very sadly) was probably always going to end up killing herself. She sounds incredibly fragile and everything was intensified x 100 because of who she was and her lifestyle.

I honestly think that Lewis is a vile vile man and I hope he does feel guilty. He 100% played a huge part in her downfall. I do not condone DV at all and I think that night of the fight will always be a bit of a mystery (I also think a lot of booze and drugs were involved) but he KNEW she was fragile and he knew her fears of being outed by the press and yet he still took that photo and leaked it. Happy enough to know that the papers would pick up on it and presume the blood was his. He’s a calculated twat. As for Lottie - id never usually comment on appearances but she needs to seriously lay off the facial work. I also watched her in a documentary years ago (on a clothing brand PLT I think) and she came across as incredibly dense. Let’s hope he’s not taking her for a ride too.

the whole thing is a mess but I’m shocked at how easily he has got off the whole thing and has seemingly recovered when it has only just been a year
 
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Milliehaha123

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I do also feel like she was talked about like a teenager and that Jody was her big sister, her mum seemed to talk about her like she as really young. Also though her mum and sister cam across as so sweet and they probably so wished that she’d have got help etc, that’s why her mum was always on tender hooks ready to come to save her. Shit head mates taking advantage of her fame. People can be cunts, I’ve realised keeping your circle small saves you from these type of people.
I think this was half of the problem. Lots of people (many with bad intentions) gravitated towards Caroline because she was young at heart, fun, up for a laugh. I BET she was the person they would all text if they wanted a wild night out and she would be there. I read Dolly Alderton's book where she writes about the same issue - always being the go-to girl. All of these people loved Caroline for being outrageous, mad, scandalous, always with a new tale or boyfriend or story but when it came down to it - I'm not sure how many of them were there for her in her darkest days.
 
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Lico

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One of the contributers said that Lewis' head injury was a small cut that was treated at the scene. He has a lot to answer for. I believe he is responsible for her suicide. If it weren't him, it probably would have been some other fella. But he seemed to relish her downfall. He actually looked like he was dying to laugh leaving the courtroom.

I so agree with her mother when she said that depression is still not spoken about freely. I have depression, and I am embarrassed and ashamed of myself. I would never dream of opening up to people about it. It feels like a weakness.
 
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Letshavealuck

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One of the contributers said that Lewis' head injury was a small cut that was treated at the scene. He has a lot to answer for. I believe he is responsible for her suicide. If it weren't him, it probably would have been some other fella. But he seemed to relish her downfall. He actually looked like he was dying to laugh leaving the courtroom.

I so agree with her mother when she said that depression is still not spoken about freely. I have depression, and I am embarrassed and ashamed of myself. I would never dream of opening up to people about it. It feels like a weakness.
Lewis is beyond evil. He is a psychopath. Had she of not met him, she would be here.
 
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I do also feel like she was talked about like a teenager and that Jody was her big sister, her mum seemed to talk about her like she as really young. Also though her mum and sister cam across as so sweet and they probably so wished that she’d have got help etc, that’s why her mum was always on tender hooks ready to come to save her. Shit head mates taking advantage of her fame. People can be cunts, I’ve realised keeping your circle small saves you from these type of people.
Spot on.

I can relate so much to Caroline. Despite marrying and having children I’ve never grown up in my mind, I feel things deeply, I’m so sensitive, anxious type, worried about things since I was a child etc I’ve even been referred to as a scared little girl at times. I’m the same age as Caroline. When she died it really affected me and still does despite not knowing her personally, I think because I could see similar struggles in me and she was too young to go, so tragic. It’s so sad she had these demons in her mind all her life, it makes life so hard. I feel for her mum always being worried if Caroline didn’t answer her phone because being a parent to a child that’s got suicidal tendencies is hard, I saw it all my childhood with one of my siblings. I was always terrified entering their room if a knife was missing from the kitchen, or a stool etc that fear damaged me, I feel for her twin and her mum having to feel that scared all of the time.

I hope it helps end the stigma and also clears her name. The media should be ashamed, as should those that called her vile names and wished her dead online.
 
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