Yes.....
Would perhaps be nice if her would stop and acknowledge the fact that she was mentally unwell rather than just putting the blame at the
Door of every company that every employed her.
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Yes.....
Would perhaps be nice if her would stop and acknowledge the fact that she was mentally unwell rather than just putting the blame at the
Door of every company that every employed her.
Yes, I've just read it. It's incredibly long. It's interesting which sections different news outlets have chosen to print though.
He makes some really good points, particularly about media reporting, influencers and things people equate to success and I do think he's genuine in his feelings for Caroline and his motives. However, I also don't think he's in a very good place mentally. He goes off on a lot of tangents (which could be due to ADHD which he mentions in the post I suppose) and there are a fair few inappropriate comments in there too, especially towards the end.
I've previously thought he was a bit of a twerp but I've softened a bit. He was still quite young (early twenties I think) when he found 'fame' and he has clearly been very badly affected by media intrusion into his life. It's easy to find fault with people but sometimes experience of making the wrong choices is the only way to grow as a person. He does at least appear to take responsibility for things he has done in the past that he feels were wrong.
I hope he is able to be with those who care about him today.
He probably knew all too well how ill she was, and who contributed. I found the stories he put up of him and Caroline very telling. She seems pretty unhappy even then. I think he put them up to show happy memories of them both but you get a more honest account of how she was from them. I think Lewis is a duck boy who was in way too deep when re realised how ill Caroline was and then scarpered/cheated. If only she’d have stuck with her original crowd. I think it’s also quite telling the friends he hung around most with towards the end of her life were her much younger mates. Feel so sad for her.
Interesting that his ‘tribute’ to Caroline today is a story, so will vanish after 24 hours and he can get back to life with her friend.
In the podcast he was in Lewis was asked whether he saw a future with Caroline and he completely skirted round the question. He had no interest in a future with her he just shat himself when he realised she was actually very very ill. The story may have been so different if she was in a mature relationship with a guy her age who’d had a bit more life experience.
Just read the Andrew Brady piece. It’s very very emotional, albeit a bit long winded. I think he genuinely loved her but was in over his head and has never got over her. He speaks so warmly about her and the way she supported Love Island and how she took the rap for it. Such a heartbreaking story all over.
Wasn’t Andrew Brady the one posting loads of tit about her before she died...? Saying he had been made to sign a non disclosure agreement and saying he was going to ruin her etc?
He did. In his post today he does acknowledge that he shouldn’t have done it & still doesn’t understand why he did it. He does hold his hands up as not having been an angel.
I just think he’s yet again just using her name for his own ends. He’s no better than all the people he name checks in that post.
Really don’t think he’s well. Looks very much like a mental health episode and I hope someone is with him or looking after him.
It didn’t. Her thread got closed out of respect I think. So sadly this is the only way to speak about her. It’s still so so sad and I wish she’d got the help she needed
I think Andrew does realise the hand he had in it and his way of redeeming himself is to bring down the others. I think he’s probably in a bad mental place and hopefully is with people.
Domestic violence should never be old news.Can’t believe it’s coming up to a year since she took her life. So sad, and if only she knew that a couple of weeks later her assault would have been old news what with Covid etc
‘Alleged’ domestic violence since no one knows or will know the truth now
I wasn’t defending what did or didn’t happen. I just said that with Covid it would have been old news as in not splashed all over the front pages. Yes she should have been dealt with accordingly but it didn’t need to be pictures of her looking rough on the front page every day to do that. That’s what the courts are for to decide
She threw a phone at him. It hit his head. Someone on another thread who knows them confirmed this. She didn't hit him over the head with anything.
I would like to make it clear though that any relationship where it reaches heated arguments that lead to violent outbursts are not normal or acceptable. I'm definitely not excusing it. I am saying there is a difference between deliberate harm and accidental harm, whilst acknowledging neither are healthy or acceptable.
It sounds like you’re excusing it. She hit him over the head while he slept, the object is irrelevant. It’s still assault. She also upended the place and was erratic to such a degree that he feared for his life. She was still volatile when cautioned and upturned a table in the police station. Her behaviour that night was appalling. I don’t see why just because she is no longer here we need to pretend that it wasn’t. If it was a man who acted in the way she did we would not be forming hashtags, asking people to be kind in his memory and beatifying him. Anyway, it’s futile discussing it. She’s gone now. What’s done is done. I just disagree with people all over social media acting like she did by trolling. Trolls didn’t make her assault Lewis that night.
As I said, I'm not excusing it. Any relationship where violence happens isn't healthy. I'm saying there is more than one reason why people lash out. Trying to understand those reasons and empathise with someone, shouldn't lead to accusations of excusing someone. It's possible to see both sides without taking sides. Without such considerations how can the reasons for people lashing out be understood and treatments found.
She also self harmed that night. So what you see as someone being aggressive, I see as someone in crisis. I'm not saying my belief is right and yours is wrong. I'm just saying there are different options for how it can be viewed.
For clarity I'll add that my view point comes from experience with dealing with people who have extra needs, both from a mental health perspective and neurodiverse, so it's possible that forms a bias for my thinking. I have also experienced domestic abuse so I also know what it's like from that perspective. It's just so complex rather than right or wrong.
Well look she admitted whacking him over the head that night, with what still remains unclear. She says phone, he said lamp. Yes she self harmed that night but self harming in front of someone is also a form of mental abuse and manipulation. I feel she was a very damaged girl who had a history of volatile relationships, she was someone who had a lot of issues and unfortunately felt she had no other way out. There was clearly enough evidence that an assault took place in order for CPS to press charges. I don’t understand why they were vilified for doing their job and she was beatified for committing assault. There seems to be no balance to it all anymore, the minute she died her offence was forgotten and her death was blamed solely on trolls. It was literally stated at her inquest that she took her own life as she had spiralled to such a degree that the thoughts of the body cam footage being made public was causing her such turmoil. Whatever was on there would likely have been career ending. Anyway I feel a bit ick still discussing it to this day because the girl is gone. But the airbrushing on social media and the be kind nonsense is baffling. Yes be kind of course, but also be critical, question things and don’t take tit from people. Her actions deserved to be investigated.
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