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emm

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Agree @Denise0211 @Rina Valtellina 😬 KyLie is terribly pretentious and arrogant and has tickets on herself. As always, she is tone deaf to serious issues that don’t impact her own total self-involvement🙄

Regarding the Grande Bellezza, I live in Rome but you don’t have to live there to understand or appreciate the film. I love the way KyLie says she doesn’t know if she should write about it as most people won’t be able to relate to it (except exceptional people like her) but it actually ended up winning an Oscar for the Best Foreign Language film at the Academy awards, the following year. So obviously a lot of aloe non-Italian people that hadn’t been to the parties and were not upper class Romans etc could relate to it and see its brilliance (apart from her)🤦🏼‍♂️

Kylie: “I think to an extent, people who are critical of all the film’s crazy dance-till-dawn parties and meaningless sex between people with too much time, botox and money, like to criticize it....as it unnerves others to think that they’ve lived in Rome for years and spend every night watching La Iene, going to bed at a reasonable hour and never receiving a single invitation to one of these exclusive orgies of art and hedony“ (unlike KYLie herself)
I couldn't be bothered to read anything she has written at this stage but the things quoted here are just ridiculous. The whole Grande Belleza thing...I lived in Rome for years and, while I did like the film, I could not identify with it at all as it was nothing like the Rome I lived in or the people I socialised with. Not everyone's (most people's) experience of Rome/italy/anywhere else is upper class parties and the money to not have to work. Also her comments about the whole "prostituta" thing, the orgies etc... very much not the "I don't sleep around" image she now portrays.
And more generally speaking, how could anyone ever say you cannot appreciate a film if you haven't had the lived experience?! personally I generally watch films/tv that aren't similar to my life as that is more interesting. ugh she is insufferable
 
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Antonio

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it's not even interesting enough to be funny , the drone only makes sense if the views she shows are ever different, I really don't get why she is not travelling around italia with her parents
The constant, repetitive fly-overs are for Kylie to show off Guido’s family property as her own @emm 🤦🏼‍♂️ Nothing she says or does, ever, is done except to boast! That is what makes her so insufferable and that’s one of the things that made her so disliked in Rome (along with her arrogance) in my circles. I actually find it quite surprising how she has remoulded herself into basically someone else for Guido. Underneath the fake carapace of her Betty Homemaker act, no doubt, she is just the same chiseler at heart who finds the height of glamour being as Kylie calls it a “high class escort”...

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HenriBeyle

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I just read this bonkers response to K by one of her fans ... Michaela Claudia P ... (who is a 'Future Counsellor' ... sounds a bit woo woo to me).

"Hi Kylie! I wanted to say that I dreamed about you last night, and we were talking, and I cannot remember much unfortunately but I saw a little girl of about 5-6 years old and she was your daughter! :) I can only remember that she was shy, obedient and quiet and very sweet and also remember the colours blue and violet (not sure about the violet), can't remember where I saw those colours, maybe on a scarf. Weird as I wasn't thinking about you yesterday, nor I ever pictured you with a baby, not sure from where did this dream came from. I do these type of dreams sometimes, so I'm not that amazed! I thought I should tell you! Now back to the video! xx 🥰💕"



Apologies am a Luddite and don't know how to do screen shots ... plus Moko has escaped from the Pompidou Centre ... yikes!!!
 
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Denise0211

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@OliveOrange Yes, definitely re: seeing Kylie as a "friend" in Italy. I think many here have come across or reposted comments asking if she would have time to meet, or even just asking her advice on where to stay/eat, providing their email addresses or telling her they already DMd her. Plus there's the "coop" they may eventually rent to guests, whuch I only imagine will leave many disappointed Kylie and Guido are not hanging out with them or on the grounds at all.
 
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nostoneunturned

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Do you know what is pathetic? She throws out the "And then someone wrote me from hospital..." for good measure anytime she needs to remind the masses how Saintly she is. She has mentioned it in some videos, she's replied to comments as such, and now IG. Anyone else recall her rant-reply to the person suggesting 2020 wasn't a Year of Joy for most Italians, and Kylie had the balls to say covid patients were writing her from their hospital beds thanking her?! Mah!
An irksome strategy of debate, she may as well say I’m so worried about someone I’ve never met it a hospital bed on the other side of the world , I don’t sleep , best I can do is go and film myself and my lifestyle …what?
 
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Alessandro

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KyLie’s back🙄 This time with a super dull recipe slog - midriff, lip-biting and baby talk all included🙈 Ridiculous costings as well (talks about how she can’t afford avocados!! Omg the ‘poor me’ schtick must surely have worn thin even with the diehards).

FF until near end when she brings the Purse on stage right (to save you time around the 22.40 mark) After Grumpy Gate she is obviously determined to show that there is something between them as she films them kissing each time, it’s embarrassing. Their weird pretentious baby talk is their go-to on camera. It sounds so totally fake they probably just scream at each other in reality😅

No lists of Patreons names at the end this time!? But claims as usual in blurb below that her slogs are “very expensive to make and time consuming…” This was such a lazy video and would have taken barely longer than the half hour she took to film it to edit etc

What does she do the rest of the week when she has to stay up all night ‘working’….kept awake on herbal tea paid for by Patreons🤣

ETA: KyLie has moved her ludicrous list of Patreons from the end to the middle,in case you don’t last the distance through sheer boredom😬 Just a reminder to pay her…

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Hello all:

New to the forum, hope I format correctly.

“Gratuitous beauty” Using this terminology would appear to be a signal to those followers who share a "creationist account of the universe".

Could the announcement several flogs back regarding the restaurant property be a trial balloon to accumulate data for finance/refinance/data modelling to justify the renovation expenditure and the 50-70% (was that correct) gov't reimbursement.
And/or some sort of paperwork necessary to receive funds/grants/loans? No feedback to followers necessary at this point.... :p

Referring to a previous episode in NYC: anyone who works in NYC media would not hire K-----y based on the showreel with the jazz stuff (watched with no sound) due to such things as: technically poor framing for the interview (taking up 2/3 screen for interviewer), feet on bed, constant hair shooshing (sp.?), and sultry narcissistic eye contact with the camera, interview subject seems uncomfortable, cliche locations..... etc.

NYC women in media biz are as together as astronauts, professional and never insert themselves into work with T&A like that because if they were to do that their client would not pay them (unless they are intending to narfle the garthok <look it up 🙀>. Such work product would never be taken seriously in the highly competitive media market or ever be able to be a successful tool to "pick up jobs" (or however that was expressed). People who could work with you or get you work will watch 10 seconds or less, laugh or belch & turn off.

Also: twirling around, clogging whilst sitting on floor in airport toilet, touching your face? 🤮

### K-----y Fantasy ### I am Cenerentola and turned down successful jobs in NYC too, twirls around and poofs. ###.

NO!

This is a horrible example/advice to any person who wants to be taken seriously.

Thank you for allowing me to express myself.
 
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emm

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Well the Freeloading Flavells (sorry @PlinyinTorquay but they are) continue to try and earn their keep renovating the Purse’s family properties😳

It’s so bizarre that KyLie has now become an addendum to Guido’s life, living on his coat tails and making her slogs entirely about someone else’s life and property, while she is along for the ride.

KyLie is not a ‘creative’ as she is always copying other people and now she is basically making blogs about the Purse’s villas and renovations that don’t really have anything to do with her...

She’s inhabiting someone else’s life like those Hermit Crabs that take another crab’s shell and borrow it to live in😅

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I am still so confused about the whole non wedding issue, I was sure there would be a pregnancy announcement hence the need to be “married” but what on earth was the point?! That comment from a fan about the child is creepy 🤢
 
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Antonio

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God knows why but I read the entire article. What a load of self indulgent drivel, using the premise of recommending films to talk about, you guessed it, ME! Me me me me me blah blah blah blah blah. :sick: She does not give a fat flying fuck about anyone or anything other than herself. And I am sure that most of what she wrote here is made up or embellished to the nth degree. There are so many sayings about those that brag...

And this at the end...
La Grande Bellezza
You will probably only appreciate the exceptional talent of director Paolo Sorrentino if you have lived in this city, been to the parties, understood the richness and restlessness of upper and middle class Romans. There is much beauty and so much truth in ‘La Grande Bellezza’ that I felt utterly overwhelmed.
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I feel utterly overwhelmed by how full of yourself you are.
Agree @Denise0211 @Rina Valtellina 😬 KyLie is terribly pretentious and arrogant and has tickets on herself. As always, she is tone deaf to serious issues that don’t impact her own total self-involvement🙄

Regarding the Grande Bellezza, I live in Rome but you don’t have to live there to understand or appreciate the film. I love the way KyLie says she doesn’t know if she should write about it as most people won’t be able to relate to it (except exceptional people like her) but it actually ended up winning an Oscar for the Best Foreign Language film at the Academy awards, the following year. So obviously a lot of aloe non-Italian people that hadn’t been to the parties and were not upper class Romans etc could relate to it and see its brilliance (apart from her)🤦🏼‍♂️

Kylie: “I think to an extent, people who are critical of all the film’s crazy dance-till-dawn parties and meaningless sex between people with too much time, botox and money, like to criticize it....as it unnerves others to think that they’ve lived in Rome for years and spend every night watching La Iene, going to bed at a reasonable hour and never receiving a single invitation to one of these exclusive orgies of art and hedony“ (unlike KYLie herself)
 
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Alessandro

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@Antonio I know, I can't keep track of the properties. It seems to be that rental house, as you mentioned, since she went on and on how spacious it was and good for hosting workshops and all of that lol.



I KNEW I read this somewhere and your post led me to go search. From her "Why can't life be a Bertolucci film?" article. She's ridiculous. View attachment 762530
Well found @Denise0211 ! Kylie saying “it was hard not to fantasise about being a hooker...you’ll want to be a prostituta too...or barefoot and prégnant in a jail in Naples’ make her sound like she is both out of her mind and very rough and tough like she came across in thé story about her Barcelona exploits with men. She obviously imagines herself as some kind of femme fatale🙄 What a rôle she is playing for Guido and his family as thé conservative, teetotalling, housewife. I am sûre these comments would go down really well with her démographic let alone thé Purse!🙈
 
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OliveOrange

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I am one of the people who teach English, albeit in their home country atm, sorry for the total derail (but I think we are allowed that in this thread? hence why I love it so much!) how do you find teaching there? I have never taught outside Europe.

Back to kylie, I have said it before, but will say it again, it is a matter of time until someone she advises moves to italy and has a very difficult time, which realy is unfair on them. I wonder how she will react (if she will react I guess)
I think the teaching English thing is actually sort of relevant given that it's one of the ways that people like Kylie could easily make money. All fine and good if they do something else, but at least a few of the idolizing followers will have to consider this if they're going to seriously move there.

Teaching in Korea has had it's ups and downs for me. I currently have an amazing job at a public middle school where my coworkers respect me and I am allowed to have free reign with the curriculum as long as it fits within the lesson. My students are great and that's why I stay. I have previously taught at private schools and academies (which are almost universally terrible, I have some horror stories if anyone is interested).

What is it like for you? I thought of going to Europe to teach English, but was offered a job here first, and I believe the money I make here versus what I can save on living costs is a lot higher than if I were in Europe? Something that definitely applies to the conversation about Kylie's claims about being too poor to afford a camera or whatever.

I think your English is beautiful @OliveOrange. Sorry to disappear mid-conversation, one of our conservators had a drinks' party this evening and I was desperate to meet Polo - her Saluki (an Arabian sighthound 💕). I get confused by the time zones, I don't know where I am compared to Korea but am currently an hour ahead of Eu and 2 ahead of BST. Moving to the Middle East was exceptionally traumatic at first and it is not easy for a woman in a very patriarchal society. I do get treated with some respect on account of my academic specialisms. They need our expertise. The climate can be difficult, it's just slipped below 100 F these past few days, but can reach 150 and can be very humid. What is the climate like in Korea? On the positive side - owing to the Petroleum economy there are the financial resources to be reasonably well-remunerated and, most importantly, to make a real contribution to the country's culture. So I guess there are positives and negatives. You must be asleep now but I'm always happy to chat further about this so long as the others don't mind. Ah ... I just read your sentence about leaving your phone and card in a taxi ... here I am astonished that I can go into a cafe and leave my bag, iPhone, laptop on a table to use the bathroom and they are all there when I return. It is in that way exceptionally safe. I can roam around in the dark or the early morning without aggravation - so I need to be careful not to get lulled into a false sense of security when I am back at home. Sorry, I should say something relevant about Kylie. I can't imagine @emm how K would react if someone comes to set up a home in Italy on her advice and it doesn't work out. I'm sure she would not take any responsibility for it and probably slip well below radar. Who knows.
♡♡♡ of course, real life and dogs are more important!

Moving to Korea was way less traumatic than I expected it to be... despite not speaking or ever having studied the language. That is one of the things that Kylie says a lot... mostly comes off as her bragging that her Italian is good. But I wonder if she spoke any Italian before she moved there? I know some of you have said she sounds strange in Italian as well as English. I know zero about Italian or accents there, so happy for you Italian speakers to enlighten me.

It is safe enough to leave your purse, keys, computer on a table in a coffee shop and no one will touch them here. The problem with the phone and credit card in the taxi was mostly because I didn't speak Korean, or really know anyone at that point who could help me call the taxi company. It was entirely my fault, I know I must come across as a complete idiot lol. I also moved halfway across the globe with very little planning, so I can kind of see the appeal of what Kylie's "just move to the place of your dreams" thing is about for her fans. It's the deception and obvious fakery that bothers me... if she had never said anything about it, or even just said, here'swhat I did that works for my situation, it wouldn't bother me

My Korean is a lot better now (I'm married to a Korean as well, though we speak English at home), but I wouldn't consider myself fluent. I guess what I'm getting at is the pressure that Kylie puts on her followers to be fluent... for those of you who live in Italy or have spent a lot of time there, do you agree with this expectation? I have been to Rome once as a tourist, and it was not difficult to get around despite speaking very little Italian. The one thing is I think I remember most signs being only in Italian? In Korea, all the signs are in Korean and English, and I can get around without speaking Korean at all.

Simpering baby talk is not attractive on anyone. I couldn't even get through that part. Well I FF through a lot of things I find annoying...

I will have to actually watch some of the renovation parts. I do understand that so many issues happen with projects like these... seems like their reactions, especially Kylie asking them to work in 40 degree weather isn't very understanding and is quite unflattering to show on camera.

The rusty table legs is just a bad choice @nostoneunturned. Some of these "rustic country farm life" trends make sense to me, but others are dangerous.

(Sorry for the exceedingly long message.)
 
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Spirit of place

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Re the trattoria - wine FOR GUIDO - why did he fill her glass too? For cinematic effect - for symmetry? Accent sliding into Americano & back..I wonder if she dubs herself to suit the performance.
 
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estellastheme

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I have watched 5 minutes and don;t know if i can be bothered anymore, does she explain how she met this italian guy who only dates foreign girls? to me it sounds like they met on tinder and she doesn't want to admit it. She comes across as very obsessed with her weight from the little I did see in this video. Also how is loving amalfi and pasta being an "awful tourist" or whatever she described herself as? I hate this criticism of tourists that is so common on youtube, as a tourist who doesn't live near a beach why wouldn't I go and just sit on the beach, I can't even drive let alone sail a boat, so why would i try that? She has to have this sense of superiority in everything she does

so i finished it finally....So much of this video makes no sense to me. that guy seems like a total sleaze and the kind of person I would avoid at all costs, the fact she is basically laughing at women being taken in by men like that explains why she has very few (or no?) female friends. So his friends are all unhappy with their italian girlfriends, why continue the relationship? I have met people like this (of all nationalities) but they tend to be much younger than kyLIE. Also sorry I doubt anywhere in the US, Santa Barbara or otherwise, (unless I am really mistaken) work 6 months and then are 6 months off - unless you are rich I guess
You are absolutely correct. Taking 6 months off a year is not done in Santa Barbara nor anywhere else in the US. Not even in Hollywood is that the norm. In fact most states don't even require that employers provide for paid or unpaid vacation time. I'm in California where - when I have worked as an employee not an independent contractor - all of my employers provided a nominal level of vacation time per year (accrue 10-14 days usually; depending on length of employment - usually 5+ years - you may accrue 21-30 days per year). A lot of the time employees won't use all their vacation time in any given year and let it build up until their employer caps their time off hours if they live in a state like California where even though it's not legally required that employers provide vacation hours, if they do, they must pay us out on them if we quit or get fired. A parachute of sorts. There is also a pervasive culture in most of those offices where you shouldn't request time off and the amount of passive aggressive shaming if you ask for two whole weeks off in a row (and better not make it around the holidays unless you are a mid-level manager or higher in a company). When I was in San Francisco & Palo Alto, tech and some of the companies that got VC funds would offer "unlimited" time off but again because of the culture on those campuses it wasn't used like unlimited if you used it at all. Work/Life balance is pretty notoriously terrible in the US.

Kylie's judgmental attitude towards tourists and what makes a good one is very juvenile. It reminds me of how my friends and I spoke about tourists at "our" beaches during summer in San Diego and Malibu when we were 16. Then we grew up and only got annoyed if people where doing that would mess with our or their safety (surfing in the swimming zone). I now live in the center of one of the biggest tourist streets in the world and, honestly, thank god for tourists of any kind (silently scared for those that bring kids like they are at Disneyland) but otherwise it would just be a grotty but historic part of the city to live in. Or in Kylie speak "living in the shadow of the Hollywood sign, as the tenth police helicopter of the days buzzes overhead in a town where thousands of dreams have been crushed I step over the naked homeless man outside a nondescript building where Marilyn Monroe lived, wander down a street where Charlie Chaplin would drag race his horses from his house and down an unknown street to a house where William Faulkner once lived because my dog likes to pee on it's curb I am overwhelmed by the ghosts that walk this path, both real - like that actor that was murdered at the Lido and haunts the Chinese Theater - and the meth'ed out ones passed out in front of the empty scientology buildings. But the tourists that take selfies with the stars on the sidewalk and the cosplayers are the worst amiright"
 
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nostoneunturned

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@emm ... my dog doesn't allow me to lie in at the weekend!!!! 🤬. In terms of the freeloading parents, there must surely be a more comfortable way of freeloading ... in your late-sixties-early 70s than all that manual labour, poor devils! And in terms of the COVID regs. in Australia ... could they get back there at the moment if they really wanted to?
Sadly Delta variant is pretty out of control in the region from where the Flaveloaders are from . Byron Bay is in lockdown currently and even though vaccination rates are very high in the state of New South Wales , the dunce capital seems to be Byron Bay where there is a lot of vaccination hesitancy (see pot smoking induced paranoia or double standards, where a vaccination is a a problem but an illegal drug bought with cash that funds drug lords is fine) Also the availability of seats on flights to Australia is very low and there is also a limit to the amount of people who can re-enter the country due to the limited number of quarantine facilities upon re-entry.
The fact KyLIE thinks it is interesting watching a bloody tradesman remove plaster with a noisy chisel as content is really dumb.
I‘m disappointed in Gweedy Purse’s taste in furniture, nor was the huge wooden trunk they (she) decided to put up in the granary a particularly interesting piece. Kylie gets off on watching other people work for her it’s obvious now.
I too would boot the annoying pratty couple with the video camera out of my furnitrue showroom , that moment with the mirror @Alessandro when she proclaims “I’ll take them both …” is quite disgusting 🤮.
Of course the only thing they buy is a mirror .
 
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emm

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Little Miss Busy Bee up with the lark toiling away while Guido gets his grumpy self up 3 hours later after breakfast in bed. Mess in outhouse which makes G even grumpier when he passes by is cleaned up by Mummy with her adage "Tidy house, tidy mind"and creative artist daughter. The way this video is skewed is really insulting & pathetically narcky - she never moves on from herself - never, ever.
'O my gosh' 'O my gosh' again and again at cupboard linings etc @Alessandro as you so aptly reported" , O my gosh what a show of ignorance & housewifely staging. Now she has caught her man she can throw on an unironed dress (can't resist the out to 4am comment can she?) Btw @emm I think marriage was more about security, financial & otherwise than children.
If I couldn't comment here, there's no way I would have watched this preening vlog. Again UNSUFFERABLE !#*
but as the marriage isn;t even legal what security does it bring?
That video was really one of the worst, presumably Purse works all week, I would be angry if my partner didn;t allow me to lie in at the weekend because they just have to buy random things to clutter up an as yet unfinished building project (whether I had got in at 4am or not).
So many influencers seem intent on exagerating how busy they are, why would you need to be in such a rush to go to an antiques warehouse to browse around and buy a mirror that you cannot iron a dress? I bet he is annoyed her family are still there tbh, imagine living with your (sort of) in laws 24/7?
 
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Antonio

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Hi Antonio:

Thanks for your comments and clarifications. I was referring to "conversations in NY the reality of living your passion" 17 April 2017.
It does not surprise me that K couldn't get an industry job in Rome either.

Earlier on this forum, there were some direct quotes from K regarding regularly getting in at 4 or 5am from partying and relying upon the kindness of strangers providing an apartment. Do you refer to this timeframe (post 2017).
How does one show up for work and function in a no sleep state, why allow oneself to live that way (dangerously) all the way until crash and burn and also sell that lifestyle as an aspiration in a highly competitive landscape in which the A game is necessary as mere baseline.

Regarding the industry: is Rome a place where, as in NYC, one can hide in one's anonymity, or a scene in which everyone knows everyone?

Back to the present matronly era:
It seems curious how G+K may be monetizing their existence/properties. Unlike accommodations which publicly advertise their location and area business affiliations in order for visitors to plan and optimize their stay, G+K seem to be withholding info on special places which allows for easier monetization now and down the track. For example the sign up sheet for the ceramic business 🤑, (which by the way has a warning on the website header bar that it is not secure, so anyone signing up pls know all your info is not secure) is one way to control monetization. The entire G+K series in Tuscany seem to be leading viewers/Patreons further into the (crockery second lined) labyrinth. 🐂

One wonders how K's stated concept of gratuitous beauty meshes with, overlays, or informs the monetization process, or the entire process.

Looking forward to your thoughts.
Thanks @Michael From Mountains yes the entire “G & K” plan business plan is quite curious (if they have one)🤦🏼‍♂️Since there are a lot of competing forces and Guido’s family own the properties, K ultimately is a hanger-on and is using the “renovations” as fodder to feed the Patreon maw. The Purse seems pragmatic and in control of the planning and building issues in which she appears to play no role at all.

Regarding KyLie’s 5am hours she has always done this and was a party girl in Rome, where some of us here have come across her. She even wrote in an article how she dated rich guys with expensive tastes in restaurants, cars and apartments and all of her neighbours thought she was an escort because she was out all night with them and didn’t appear to work during the day...

Today, she makes it a badge of honour representing how “hard she works”! Not bad time management. She even said a couple of weeks ago she hasn’t slept for months as she stays up all night editing🧐 chi sa la vera storia?

I don’t think you could compare the industry in Rome and New York. Italian society works almost entirely on familial and social connections and there is zero anonymity and most people would not want that. Everyone knows everyone or wants to!

Kylie uses the phrase ‘gratuitous beauty’ gratuitously and it is one of her stock standard comments along with “cinematic life” which we have all have had a good laugh about here😅
 
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PlinyinTorquay

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Must be so dofficult to have to self censor in that way if so, and, if so, doing the job you do do you often have difficulties realted to this? (ofc no need to reply if you think it is to sensitive, I imagine the cannery businiess is hard enough as it is ;) )
Okay, I will answer as far as I am able for those who are interested. :)

Yes, censorship can cause difficulty with my work. For example, there is no differentiation between nudity (e.g. a nude body in a work of art) and nakedness. So, a colleague's art book with a nude painting on the cover was confiscated at the airport. One might get away with getting an art book with some nude illustrations inside the book through customs. I sent a friend some postcards from Paris, which I placed in a prepaid envelope from the Rodin Museum. The envelope had a bronze écorché figure of a nude seated male on it (The Thinker), and I was concerned I'd get my friend into trouble, but that got through. I do have to be careful about what is displayed here and, therefore, what is purchased. For example, we have a beautiful series of 12 colour lithographs by Marc Chagall illustrating episodes from One Thousand and One Nights, for which Chagall was awarded a prestigious prize at the Venice Biennale. Of the twelve, only four can be displayed owing to androgynous nude female figures on some of the sheets.

On a recreational level

Alcohol is invariably confiscated on re-entry, notwithstanding there's a fully stocked Duty-Free Shop within Hamad International Airport. Surprisingly, the business cabin of Qatar Airways offers the best wine, cocktail and spirit list I've ever seen. Other items can get one into trouble or cause embarrassment. I'd better be circumspect here, but a colleague at NMoQ was placed on a list for having something in her luggage and now gets searched every time she goes through customs. Another associate at the National Library brought back a similar object. She had the presence of mind to deconstruct it and reassemble it when she got home, and it passed through undetected. I will leave that one to your imagination. :D

Re. Kylie's romantic novel, when I tried to discover more about the plot, I hit a firewall here, another form of censorship. I remember trying to order a case of wine online for my mother for Christmas while working in the Museum of Islamic Art library and hit a firewall on that too. Movies can be 'spliced' too for adult content. There is a remarkable amount of horror/violence in films screened here, which is allowed, but no romantic love.

As to your question about my fish-canning sideline, I have been thwarted on several occasions. Most memorably, when I wanted to include a rather fetching image of a siren on a can of sardines! ;)


Below is a sheet and something I wrote for Google Art for a sheet from Chagall's Mille et Une Nuits :)

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Marc Chagall (1887-1985) was born to a Jewish family in North East Belarus; he was a prodigy and started drawing from a young age despite his father’s reservations. In 1909 he entered the Zvantseva School of Drawing and Painting in St Petersburg where he was taught, amongst others, by Leon Bakst (1866-1924), who introduced him to the work of colourists such as Henri Matisse (1869-1954). Chagall achieved some early commercial success which enabled him to travel to Paris where he studied between 1911-1914. In 1923, he returned to settle in Paris and was granted French nationality in 1937, but was later forced to leave in 1941 during the Nazi occupation. He sought asylum in the United States where he lived, between 1941-1948, in a Jewish community in New York alongside other exiled artists. During this period Chagall was commissioned by Pantheon Books to produce a set of twelve colour lithographs illustrating Four Tales from the Arabian Nights. It was Chagall’s first attempt at colour lithography, for which he was awarded a prestigious graphic prize at the Venice Biennale of 1948. The portfolio was released in a regular edition of 90 containing a suite of 12 plates; the Orientalist Museum’s impression is 62/90. The sheet featured here illustrates an episode from The Ebony Horse wherein a King of Persia is visited by three wise men bearing gifts, one of which is an ebony horse possessed with the magical powers to fly anywhere. Kamar, the King’s son, mounts the horse which takes him to a faraway castle and the chamber of a Princess, with whom he instantly falls in love. After many vicissitudes, Kamar and the Princess marry and live happily ever after. This brilliant cobalt sheet shows the Persian Prince returning home with his bride to Persia on the Ebony Horse, which flies above a rising sun. The accompanying commentary on the print comes from a translation, originally published in 1885, by the famous Orientalist and explorer Sir Richard Burton (1821-1890):

“Mounting the ebony horse he took her up behind him and made her fast to himself, binding her with strong bonds; after which he turned the shoulder-pin of ascent, and the horse rose with him into the air”.
 
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Antonio

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As we know, Kylie's education was scant - home schooled for a period & college consisted of a New Realism Italian film course, probably done in modules online while she was abroad, Spain, Italy etc so all her self-taught filming was based ONLY on these films. She took all the camera angles, scenes, costumes, accents and even copious inserts in her Sicily vlogs from them. So nothing creative there or ever in spite of calling herself film creator, etc & film producers accused her of lying that she did it all alone. It is a lie because she had Rossellini, De Sica & Visconti to copy shamelessly. In fact that is her one big talent - copying - copying accents, filming, taking on different characters, aping mannerisms - you name it she can do it.
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So the Italian dolce vita is a veneer that she envelops herself in and no more
Here is George saying that Kylie’s vlogs reminds him of the work of Visconti, Fellini etc without realising she is just copying everything they do @Spirit of place. Then he says not only do the Patreons have to put up with sub-standard videos he also wants them to do the work for her as well😬This guy obviously doesn’t work in “the film and TV business” as he says because he would know that scripts take a huge amount of time and work and also should be copyrighted. The people that make these comments under her vlogs are living on another planet🙄

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Denise0211

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Looking through the comments, despite prefaced with the usual "love your work/you're so kind" etc, many go on to say there is no reason to hide places struggling for tourism, many are armchair viewers and can't go anyway, etc etc. Thankfully even her 'fans' seem confused by the post.
 
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Alessandro

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Really good point! I get that reno videos are popular, but she could make her content seperate from her life, or rather, her partner's. I wonder what she would do if la famiglia Ghezzi Galli Tassi didn't have properties that could use work or if they didn't care to start any projects? Just like that Physics guy she dated and used to make her very odd parallel universe short, and also slip in how she was reading books on physics in other vlogs. 😂



Yeah, that Australian woman in Rome I follow on IG had her December/Christmas flight cancelled a few weeks back, and noted only the most expensive cabins were available for the most part. Looks like the Flavells are there to stay!😬



And I notice that comment had 13 replies, all going on about her being pregnant as that Michaela says her dreams are never wrong. 🙄

And speaking of weirdos.... (I included Nanette since I counted 4 or 5 comments saying Kylie didn't drink the wine as she must be pregnant. Do people not understand how rude it is to speculate on pregnancy? Or do they not recall the multiple times Kylie says she doesn't drink? Lol Guess not.)
As we all know @Denise0211 KyLie would never have married a normal Italian accountant who lives with his family in a 70 square metre flat in Florence, even if (no doubt at her urging) he grew a beard and let his hair grow long🙄 She’s in it for the money and villas and providing her Patreons with the Tuscan cliché and all the wretchedly dull reno flogs of other people’s property who appear to have long done the planning before she arrived on the scene🙈
 
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