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Veronicaaa

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It has absolutely nothing to do with Rangers/Rangers fans and the display yesterday was nothing to do with Palestine or Kneecap.
I did also see stuff yesterday about Celtic fans being told to take their 🇵🇸 flags down, while the flag of Israel was permitted on the Rangers side. Which does feed into what this thread is all about (ie Kneecap being smeared and branded as 'terrorist supporters' in an attempt to suppress their vocal support for Palestine and their calls for an end to the genocide).
 
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esoes

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It's up on Iplayer! And it says it's 60 mins.....what! I expected it to be edited down to about 15 mins. I was sitting refreshing last night hoping for it. Roll on the kids' naptime today so can enjoy it in peace!
 
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pommynoir

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Why did you not just say that then 🤷‍♂️

I’ve seen right through Kneecap’s intentions for some time now and am happy their true colours are (finally) being exposed. Many on the left were dressing their act up as a bit of craic and turning the negatively of the Troubles on its head. But really, their act is tribalistic, baiting of the Unionist community in Northern Ireland and using the same language/provocations that the IRA would’ve used.

No issue with them having an opinion on the Israel/Palestine situation (I disagree with what they say, but it is free speech after all). However, their support for Hamas and Hezbollah deserves to be called out, while some of the footage of them encouraging the murder of British MPs is a disgrace. Somehow, their wee cult following of simpletons see nothing wrong in their violent rhetoric.
I don’t see them baiting the unionist community at all. I actually think they always come across balanced in interviews - they supported the youth clubs on both sides, and even had young Spencer (a proud unionist) support them at their Belfast gigs. They constantly speak about how much both sides actually have in common with each other.

They’ve always been very vocal about not having an issue with people identifying as British in NI, but having one with British rule / the govt.
 
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Merpedy

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Apparently Bob Vylan has been doing the IDF chant for a while now. The Zionist must have missed it 🤭
 
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Merpedy

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More of a Bob Vylan thing but it’s so interesting to me that chanting for death of the military (which I would interpret as a change in the military rather than individual death of all those serving in it) is so controversial

I have seen people arguing that they don’t wish for death in any war when they wish for peace and it’s such a disconnect from the reality of war that isn’t coming to a peaceful solution - be it Ukraine/Russia or Israel/Palestine. Even when we call for a downfall of a political regime in some oppressive country we are ultimately calling for something that will likely result in violence and deaths against the regime

I don’t know, it’s very interesting that messaging on peace or resistance has to ignore the realities of war or oppression for people to be comfortable with it
 
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Wacko

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Just remembered they called Rod Stewart Rod the Prod.:LOL: Also said he was older than Israel and told the crowd to google it.:LOL: They make me laugh too much!:LOL:
 
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clueless

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I’m interested to you what your proposed solution would be then?

Not just for kneecap, for any person in the north who wants to see a UI. Should we not work, not participate in society, not pay taxes, not abide by UK law, not seek opportunity of any kind as that’s ‘hypocritical’ because of our position on the constitutional future?
IMO, there’s a big difference between advocating for constitutional change and what Kneecap are doing. Glorifying violence, chanting ‘up Hamas,’ 'up Hezbollah', mocking victims of terrorism, calling for more politicians to be murdered... that’s not principled nationalism, that’s performative provocation. I know plenty of people who would like a UI that would never behave or speak like they do.

My point isn’t that anyone with a different constitutional vision shouldn’t participate in society. It’s that Kneecap, in particular, profit from the very system they claim to despise, while making a brand out of hostility. It’s not about opposing British rule; it’s about profiting off the UK while publicly ridiculing it with venom and bile. That’s the hypocrisy.
 
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Jelly Bean

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Why would anyone want to be more like Bono? Who can forget him suing a stylist because he said she took his favourite stetson 😂
Silly old sod.

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Lazarus

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Yeah that may be acceptable in other parts of UK but not in NI where our towns are literally brought to a standstill whilst these bigots shout publicly how they want to be up to their knees in our blood, fully supported by politicians and funded by the British government…That’s the difference!
I’ll not say which part of west central Scotland I hail from but I assure you, it’s the same there. I’m convinced these are the types of people who believe the Pope is a Celtic supporter and the King is a Rangers supporter. It’s embarrassing. I’m so glad to have moved away from it.

St Patrick’s Day festivals that go on for days, then Orange walks that just sap the soul out of me.
Nobody benefits from this culture yet we all have to pay for the policing of both events. Dicks. Absolute dicks.

There’s a town not far from where I came from, where the pharmacy light couldn’t even be green because it kept getting smashed. Green pharmacy lights are international. Apart from in some backwater town!
 
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