You’re making a lot of assumptions too though aren’t you? Why would the doula do it for free when it’s her job? Her mum was there with her so she wasn’t looking after her kids.. unless they were there too, it seems like she had everyone else there why not two toddlersSo many assumptions - how do we know she paid? It could be a friend or she could have got a deal for it being the second time she’s used her! But even if she did pay that’s her choice.
Maybe her mother was looking after the other children?
So many assumptions - how do we know she paid? It could be a friend or she could have got a deal for it being the second time she’s used her! But even if she did pay that’s her choice.
Maybe her mother was looking after the other children?
Ahh this is so sad and impossible to ever imagineAs a parent who had a traumatic birth following 12 hours of neglect by 10 medical staff and whose baby died at 7 weeks old because of the trauma suffered during birth, I find her so selfish moaning about Daves birth, she has a healthy 4 year old and had a healthy baby... it wasn't the perfect birth that she wanted but who cares if you and your baby are healthy!
Believe it or not her mum was there with Sean AND the doula£700 to end up with a 3rd degree tear and again for a second degree tear lmao. I know the doula can't actually help with that but she brought her along as an assurance of having the world's best births. I had my husband and my mum on all 3, needed emergency forceps for my first as back to back but no Intervention or stitches for other 2 so I think taking your mum for free beats hands down(2nd n 3rd were all 9½LB babies so not small )
This is so sad and I'm so sorry it happened to you. However, people suffering birth trauma can still find it hard to process without invalidating the feelings of others who have had the worst of experiences. I think we all know it isn't easy and even if you have a healthy baby at the end of it and are healthy yourself a few years later, it doesn't make it less scary at the time. Again though, sorry for your loss xAs a parent who had a traumatic birth following 12 hours of neglect by 10 medical staff and whose baby died at 7 weeks old because of the trauma suffered during birth, I find her so selfish moaning about Daves birth, she has a healthy 4 year old and had a healthy baby... it wasn't the perfect birth that she wanted but who cares if you and your baby are healthy!
I suspect she holds huge resentment for the fact they've had another girl and she was convinced it was a boy as her pregnancy was so "different" shows what BS that isAll she has done is moan since Gary arrived. I previously predicted I think she'll find a third baby hard. Why did she get pregnant so soon when she was already struggling with Alan?
ETA she says she's in agony with infected stitches but needed to go to tesco because she has nothing to wear?! Is she for realjust wear what you've worn your whole pregnancy! Get in your pjs and chill! I do honestly think she's in for a rough ride with this one
It's not adding up is it she seems so flat and upset. I agree I think they've got gender disappointment. Straight away her thoughts are turned to her weight as always. I know I take the piss out of her but it's quite sad to seeI suspect she holds huge resentment for the fact they've had another girl and she was convinced it was a boy as her pregnancy was so "different" shows what BS that is
She had me convinced it was a boy with her behaviourThere is definite gender disappointment and I wonder if they were told it was a boy, only to find it’s a girl. I can imagine Sean will have made reference to ‘another girl gang member’ and I can imagine Kate will feel his frustration and disappointment. Throughout the whole pregnancy it was ‘so different’ so I think she either was told, or was convinced that it wasn’t a girl.
That's pretty much what a doula is though. Some are great and help women advocate for themselves and navigate pregnancy and birth- offering non medical support that midwives can't, but they're not regulated and some have minimal 'training'. You aren't paying for say a second midwife, someone that can guarantee an easier birth- you're paying for someone to accompany you and hopefully impart some knowledge and support.I think the idea is that someone can fork out an extortionate amount of money for absolutely no reason at all. Like what has she actually paid for? Someone to talk to? Ridiculous spending imo.
I would have thought you’d save your money personally, and have friends or family there instead for supportThat's pretty much what a doula is though. Some are great and help women advocate for themselves and navigate pregnancy and birth- offering non medical support that midwives can't, but they're not regulated and some have minimal 'training'. You aren't paying for say a second midwife, someone that can guarantee an easier birth- you're paying for someone to accompany you and hopefully impart some knowledge and support.
I thought the same "my girls" when there's one missingPoor Alan getting left out again. Jaff is all for Dave, the golden child
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