She's definitely not the innocent party. She's far from it. Being mentally ill or addicted doesn't make you lie about miscarriaging a baby. It doesn't make you you harass and troll people. It doesn't make you create revenge porn. There is so much she has done which isn't caused by an addiction or mental illness.Bollocks. I'm trying to think of a more constructive way of putting that. I'm going to stick with bollocks.
Mental illness is nobodies fault. There are genetic and social influences at play. Same with addiction.
However, when every opportunity has been put in place for her to recover, when she has been offered more support than most people seeking help for addiction issues. When she's destroyed the trust of those around her. When she has shown to have been selfish, narcissistic and emotionally abusive all her life then it is her fault. She will never recover until she accepts responsibility. Not poor you syndrome, actual adult responsibility.
Not for a fraction of a second do I dismiss the effect of trauma in someone's life. But I will always dismiss the 'bollocks' that she is somehow the innocent party here.
She's had trauma, she was sexually abused as a child. Do I feel sorry for her? Nope. Does she deserve to get fucked overall by carwash? Yes. Does she deserve the courts to come down hard? Yes.I think she’s had trauma, but her coping mechanism has been absolutely toxic to push everyone away/get revenge/wreak havoc/enjoy herself
I ended up a single mum with no money and homeless before I was 30. can see how it could break you having no hope. But she has thrown away money most of us could only dream of and had more hope than many people will ever have. It’s really hard to feel sympathetic for her now, my sympathy is reserved for those children who didn’t ask for any of this. Maybe 10 years ago I felt for her but not anymore
The state of the blue top she sold, all creased. Goes to show you her fans will buy shite. The pink top which is yet to be sold, more like a dish cloth.Sold 5 of the 6 clothes items on Depop today and made about £100 lol!
I’m sorry with her track record of lying , I doubt she’s been abused. Most likely said for people to feel sorry for her.She's definitely not the innocent party. She's far from it. Being mentally ill or addicted doesn't make you lie about miscarriaging a baby. It doesn't make you you harass and troll people. It doesn't make you create revenge porn. There is so much she has done which isn't caused by an addiction or mental illness.
The ONLY innocent party is the children. They didn't chose to be born. They didn't chose this life.
Yes she must accept responsibility and she cannot recover until she does, getting sober is only possible if you acknowledge and take responsibility.
However it is still not a choice. Just because she has the support there does not mean she is able to accept it. Again she will only be able to recover if she hits rock bottom, the same for pretty much every single addict.
NA is always there, AA is always there, you saying she didn't use the support so it's your fault is saying everyone with addiction is at fault. Same with mental illness, support is there and people don't seek it.
People not seeking and using support doesn't mean they are choosing it.
My personal story, I had access to a brilliant rehab team when I was in the depths of my addiction but I didn't use them. I wanted to chase that high, I didn't want to come down and face reality. I would have prefer to have killed myself than be sober. I didn't want the pain of living, I didn't want the flashbacks, the thoughts and memories. Even then I didn't chose my addiction, I felt and behaved like that because I was and an addict. I will be an addict until the day I die.
You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
She's had trauma, she was sexually abused as a child. Do I feel sorry for her? Nope. Does she deserve to get fucked overall by carwash? Yes. Does she deserve the courts to come down hard? Yes.
I agree with you except for with psychopaths.Defensiveness is the addiction/mental illness.
But that's what addicts do and become.. Addicts don't chose to become addicted. Addicts don't chose that life. Addiction is a disease. Addicts put drugs/alcohol/gambling/sex above EVERYTHING else.
She is spiteful, She is manipulative. She is many bad things. But being an addict and a 'fuck up' isn't her fault and not something she cannot be blamed for!
I had a psychopath ex. Diagnosed after years. I loved him so much and thought he was as perfect. That's how he presented himself to me.Bollocks. I'm trying to think of a more constructive way of putting that. I'm going to stick with bollocks.
Mental illness is nobodies fault. There are genetic and social influences at play. Same with addiction.
However, when every opportunity has been put in place for her to recover, when she has been offered more support than most people seeking help for addiction issues. When she's destroyed the trust of those around her. When she has shown to have been selfish, narcissistic and emotionally abusive all her life then it is her fault. She will never recover until she accepts responsibility. Not poor you syndrome, actual adult responsibility.
Not for a fraction of a second do I dismiss the effect of trauma in someone's life. But I will always dismiss the 'bollocks' that she is somehow the innocent party here.
Not even the blingy moon boots?Who in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty would buy / wear KP's second hand clothes??
Im very sorry to hear thatShe's definitely not the innocent party. She's far from it. Being mentally ill or addicted doesn't make you lie about miscarriaging a baby. It doesn't make you you harass and troll people. It doesn't make you create revenge porn. There is so much she has done which isn't caused by an addiction or mental illness.
The ONLY innocent party is the children. They didn't chose to be born. They didn't chose this life.
Yes she must accept responsibility and she cannot recover until she does, getting sober is only possible if you acknowledge and take responsibility.
However it is still not a choice. Just because she has the support there does not mean she is able to accept it. Again she will only be able to recover if she hits rock bottom, the same for pretty much every single addict.
NA is always there, AA is always there, you saying she didn't use the support so it's your fault is saying everyone with addiction is at fault. Same with mental illness, support is there and people don't seek it.
People not seeking and using support doesn't mean they are choosing it.
My personal story, I had access to a brilliant rehab team when I was in the depths of my addiction but I didn't use them. I wanted to chase that high, I didn't want to come down and face reality. I would have prefer to have killed myself than be sober. I didn't want the pain of living, I didn't want the flashbacks, the thoughts and memories. Even then I didn't chose my addiction, I felt and behaved like that because I was and an addict. I will be an addict until the day I die.
You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
She's had trauma, she was sexually abused as a child. Do I feel sorry for her? Nope. Does she deserve to get fucked overall by carwash? Yes. Does she deserve the courts to come down hard? Yes.
I don't think it is because it wasn't made into a big thing. It's just a fact, she didn't want to really talk about it and minimised the effect of the abuse. Also over 7% of children care sexually abused. She 'fits' the profile of someone who was sexually abused as a child. She went into sex work very early, appears to be hypersexual, has clear signs of emotional dysregulation, has a empty void a man can only whole, disconnected from everyone in an emotional sense, addiction and more.I’m sorry with her track record of lying , I doubt she’s been abused. Most likely said for people to feel sorry for her.
Thanks. I'm just human with experience and have been surrounded by addicts my whole life so my insight is very different from perspective. I know and am friendly with addicts who will probably never get sober and I'm friendly with addicts who truly hit rock bottom and built their lives back up.Im very sorry to hear that, u do sound quite sensible for what u have dealt with
I think the point is tho that at some point in ur addiction u have moments where u are coming down or sobering up where u can make the right decisions. Watching people u love deteriorate because if ur actions will hopefully make u make the right decision! Living in a country like this, fortunately has help, all be it it gets slagged off for it not being there RIGHT help, but they can’t help everyone in the way that they might want that help. We have benefits for bills, benefits for food, benefits for alcoholics to buy alcohol, phone lines etc! There are countries that have no help for food, rape, war torn countries that people have had everything blown to smithereens but they have to somehow survive! What people are saying about Katie is that she has had more than enough help thrown at her but she CHOOSES to carry on, owing money, not taking care of her children/animals, destroying peoples lives with owing money she’s not paid them for, or showing personal videos. Being an addict does not mean u don’t have a choice and unfortunately u cannot hide under that bracket for ever and not expect repercussions! Believe me, I’ve been on the other end of the addition, it destroys a lot more lives that just the addicts, I have also had trauma x
I hope they're not as stained as that passenger seat in his car, bloody Nora, she'll be getting all her skanky stuff returned if so!Who in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty would buy / wear KP's second hand clothes??
I wouldn't use that to wash my pots, I've got to bloody eat out of them! Maybe clean the lav with itThe state of the blue top she sold, all creased. Goes to show you her fans will buy shite. The pink top which is yet to be sold, more like a dish cloth.
I’m sorry with her track record of lying , I doubt she’s been abused. Most likely said for people to feel sorry for her.
Erm babes i know its covered in a weird stain and smells of cum but it does say no returns in my bioI hope they're not as stained as that passenger seat in his car, bloody Nora, she'll be getting all her skanky stuff returned if so!
I t hink I've just learnt that thread has nothing to do with sewing...How do we do the nxt thread thing?? Help professionals
Flogging lashes on insta.Sold his soul and his dignity.When your missus tells you no Anal until you promote the eyelashes .....
Fuck that, if it's not as described (or listed as skanky & cum stained) then I'm not having it and I want my money back!!!! Same with the car seatErm babes i know its covered in a weird stain and smells of cum but it does say no returns in my bio
She's not accepting returnsI hope they're not as stained as that passenger seat in his car, bloody Nora, she'll be getting all her skanky stuff returned if so!
I wouldn't use that to wash my pots, I've got to bloody eat out of them! Maybe clean the lav with it
Didn't people complain about that when she did eBay?..She's not accepting returns. I bet she won't even post half the stuff out!
Yes, that's a new one on me too. Where's that come from?What's the story with being abused at 7... Haven't heard that one before??? Details?
Probably, it was all the fetish buyers on there mardy they didn't get her sweaty, skanky, mucky minge flapped goods to use round their nether regions in front of a porno.Didn't people complain about that when she did eBay?..
This is why I believe it. She very rarely speaks about it. It was mentioned once in 2009 during a interview with Pier's Morgan, Pete and Amy. And mentioned once in 2017 on loose women. She 'suggests' it's the reason for starting glamour modeling. She was also abuse as a teenager in a park with a friend.Yes, that's a new one on me too. Where's that come from?
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