Kate - its_not_kates_time

[Hereforthelellls]

Agree with this, I've always taken the same position and completely agree about Emily. I think she has cancer - I think she is healthy otherwise and young so she can respond well to treatment and I think the Alectinib is doing what it does for many patients. It is keeping her alive. Everything else is a farce, potentially its helping her feel in control, but the '2nd diagnosis' is just evidence to me that it never left and the cancer is just doing what it always would have done.

I unfortunately have had a lot of experience of cancer and have also been a cancer patient. What I think confuses people who don't have that experience is how people look. It is very normal to look very healthy and have cancer. One of the reasons the disease is so deadly is that it isn't easy to spot, you have to rely on finding it by identifying some very vague symptoms if its not found via screening. Most people have an image of what a cancer patient looks like - and its either someone that has had chemo, particularly if they lose their hair or is at the end of their life. I think in this Instagram age, it can be confusing to people that people with cancer can look so healthy. I myself never looked better than when I had cancer - but hadn't yet had chemo. I had lost weight - which gives people the perception of health, I changed my diet so my skin looked very clear and hair looked good and I was getting a lot of rest - I stopped work, I was able to not have so much reponsibility during treatment - but these things don't show what is going on inside and have no correlation to the disease being there or not. Jessie Lee ward is an example of someone who looked amazing - much healthier than when she didn't have cancer if you compare photos, but if you watched her lives particularly towards the end (and I see this a little in Kate) she was slowing her speech, losing track of what she was saying, leaning on things to prop herself up - she was tired and I think in a not so obvious way the cancer had taken its toll.

This is so well said. I think people think cancer diagnosis = dying, moving towards dying/very sick. Which can be the case. But the reality is in many cases, diagnosis = commence treatment options and continue to LIVE with cancer. So the way she looks is kinda irrelevant in terms of her health, but super relevant in terms of opportunities to grift/fund raise and so on. I too think she has a diagnosis and the chemo drug is keeping it at bay. I wish these clinics existed to give cancer patients a lovely holiday during or in between treatments- not a false hope.

I hope so much that you are now well OP

 

[BeachBaby]

This is so well said. I think people think cancer diagnosis = dying, moving towards dying/very sick. Which can be the case. But the reality is in many cases, diagnosis = commence treatment options and continue to LIVE with cancer.

Oh yes this is so true! BUT when she was first diagnosed she said she was only given a short time? So she in essence was dying but then miraculously had 7 clear scans? I don't know, I'm not saying she's not sick but there are certainly inconsistencies which make people doubt everything.

 

[somanyteeth]

Agree with this, I've always taken the same position and completely agree about Emily. I think she has cancer - I think she is healthy otherwise and young so she can respond well to treatment and I think the Alectinib is doing what it does for many patients. It is keeping her alive. Everything else is a farce, potentially its helping her feel in control, but the '2nd diagnosis' is just evidence to me that it never left and the cancer is just doing what it always would have done.

I unfortunately have had a lot of experience of cancer and have also been a cancer patient. What I think confuses people who don't have that experience is how people look. It is very normal to look very healthy and have cancer. One of the reasons the disease is so deadly is that it isn't easy to spot, you have to rely on finding it by identifying some very vague symptoms if its not found via screening. Most people have an image of what a cancer patient looks like - and its either someone that has had chemo, particularly if they lose their hair or is at the end of their life. I think in this Instagram age, it can be confusing to people that people with cancer can look so healthy. I myself never looked better than when I had cancer - but hadn't yet had chemo. I had lost weight - which gives people the perception of health, I changed my diet so my skin looked very clear and hair looked good and I was getting a lot of rest - I stopped work, I was able to not have so much reponsibility during treatment - but these things don't show what is going on inside and have no correlation to the disease being there or not. Jessie Lee ward is an example of someone who looked amazing - much healthier than when she didn't have cancer if you compare photos, but if you watched her lives particularly towards the end (and I see this a little in Kate) she was slowing her speech, losing track of what she was saying, leaning on things to prop herself up - she was tired and I think in a not so obvious way the cancer had taken its toll.

Thanks for sharing
I agree and also what people dont understand is that its not (and this is very simplified) the cancer that kills you. Its the knock on effects, the heart failure, the liver failure, the inability to eat/drink/sleep. And thats why people Associate cancer with looking sick when a lot of the time is not the case. Especially now with immunotherapy and monoclonal antibodies for treatment.
My dad has CLL. Which you can live with til you are 90 and then die of old age, for 7 years no one would have known. Last year he did finally need treatment and got it and is CLL free but no one would have known if he didnt tell them. I mean, he didnt even tell me for a year!

 

[Coconutclub]

Oh yes this is so true! BUT when she was first diagnosed she said she was only given a short time? So she in essence was dying but then miraculously had 7 clear scans? I don't know, I'm not saying she's not sick but there are certainly inconsistencies which make people doubt everything.

My theory (for what its worth) is this - Kate is a little on the arrogant side and prone to dramatic retelling of events. I think the doctor that told her to go home spend time with your daughter and drink wine, may have said that as part of a longer conversation. Lots of cancer patients get told these types of things for their own sake, most experienced medical staff won't give false hope and see that as unkind. They, more than most of the general public, will have seen first hand the regrets people have when faced with death - plenty of them will have wished they had spent more time with loved ones; they probably encouraged this and I would bet she was already talking about alternative opinions and cures and that person was trying to sway her away from that. As we have seen those 'protocols' are time (and financially) consuming. Kate likes to see herself as a person that is in charge and won't take no for an answer (slightly arrogant) and now reframes that conversation as just that 'I was told to go home, drink wine and die.' I would not put it past her to have chosen the shorter of the timeframes given to length of life for a more dramatic retelling. As I said before Alectinib shows amazing results in some patients and I think it did in her, as she was healthy and possibly some of the alternative therapies and diet helped that response to the drug.
Scans not showing disease are not uncommon, I have a friend that had this and then it came back with a vengence and she was dead the following year. Bowel Babe (Deborah James) also had a clear scan with NED after a terminal diagnosis, but she died just over a year later. Cancer is a fucker - scans show changes constantly and healthy, young people can give it a good fight, which is why the figures they give you for how long you have left (only based on statistics) vary and why life insurance pays out on any stage 4 diagnosis. I think she has been experiencing all of the normal ups and downs of 'living' with cancer, but wants it to be her that made the difference -arrogance again - SHE put in the effort and the work so everything is down to her decision not to die. This gives hope to other people in the wellness space and makes her popular (and makes her money) H4C also need her publicity and so she keeps up the exagerations and neglects certain parts of her story that don't fit that narrative.
I also think H4C are complete charlatans and have enabled her delusions and arrogance and tell her any improvment, good scan, is down to them - she says herself that she choses to know nothing about cancer and has no family history or experience of it. So I think she believes the way that she looks healthy and doesn't feel ill is beacuse she is curing herself. If she had had an experience of cancer that some people on this forum, myself unfortunately included, she might realise that this would probably have played out this way anyway if she'd just gone to the hospital in Aus and saved herself (her daughter) the money.
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This is so well said. I think people think cancer diagnosis = dying, moving towards dying/very sick. Which can be the case. But the reality is in many cases, diagnosis = commence treatment options and continue to LIVE with cancer. So the way she looks is kinda irrelevant in terms of her health, but super relevant in terms of opportunities to grift/fund raise and so on. I too think she has a diagnosis and the chemo drug is keeping it at bay. I wish these clinics existed to give cancer patients a lovely holiday during or in between treatments- not a false hope.

I hope so much that you are now well OP

Thank you - I am well now as far as I know x

 

[omgpleasestop]

Ok, so Im half way through reading a bunch of different studies on Alectinib as a second line treatment for pts who failed crizotinib and radio therapy for brain mets and then subsequently had increased brain mets. Alectinib has been found to REDUCE brain mets! So she may very well have reduced brain mets but its from Alectinib!!! Not having coffee shoved up her mole.
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And apologies, I just looked at it on my giant monitor and i think its less dodgy now. Something about it seems off but not the copy paste stuff.

As previously said, inflammatory process is the hallmark of all types of cancer.

Any Oncologist or medical professional dealing closely with cancer patients will tell you that in order to prolong life you need to look at a holistic approach including things like diet, exercise where possible, mindset and more.

There are studies consistently coming out regarding poor gut health and its link to cancer.
Stress produces inflammation in the gut and so on. Coffee enemas detoxify the intestine and the liver, which reduces inflammation.

Whilst I absolutely think Kate is not disclosing the entire truth, I do think that some of these treatments she is trying would be beneficial to her health.

There is no point hedging all of your bets on a cure from treatment without providing your body the healthiest foundation possible.

 

[cjenny]

I think shes got the cancer shes said she has all along and has been desperate with her belief in H4C but was given bad news yesterday hence why she not on the gram with her NED.
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I think shes got the cancer shes said she has all along and has been desperate with her belief in H4C but was given bad news yesterday hence why she not on the gram with her NED.

Spoke to soon. She back on the gram with her NED.

 

[somanyteeth]

NED. Apparently. Something about this is fishy to me. Hopefully now she stops scamming people for money.

 

[Lovely]

NED. Apparently. Something about this is fishy to me. Hopefully now she stops scamming people for money.

What a surprise! So, basically, the Alectinib is working/keeping her stable for now (which is good). Not that she'll ever admit that, of course.

 

[emmygluewho]

What a lying, scamming mole.

 

[cjenny]

NED. Apparently. Something about this is fishy to me. Hopefully now she stops scamming people for money.

Can a radiologist give results? Qradiologist or even her dr mate who is a GP who she said she was going to have the report sent too. I dunno if either are qualified. No mention of oncologist Jimmy Fletcher.

 

[Lovely]

Something is definitely up here. It took her a full year to get to 'NED' (by her definition) the last time. This time around – and now with brain mets, which is pretty much the worst-case scenario – she's 'NED' within a matter of weeks? And all it took was 70K in funds raised and a quick jaunt to Mexico? Come on, Kate.

 

[somanyteeth]

Can a radiologist give results? Qradiologist or even her dr mate who is a GP who she said she was going to have the report sent too. I dunno if either are qualified. No mention of oncologist Jimmy Fletcher.

Of course not. She tagged her holistic GP mate.
We will never ever have a real answer. All she's done is fleece her followers for holidays to mexico.

 

[cjenny]

Can a radiologist give results? Qradiologist or even her dr mate who is a GP who she said she was going to have the report sent too. I dunno if either are qualified. No mention of oncologist Jimmy Fletcher.

The comments and likes came in thick and fast. So many cancer patients in the comments all hailing H4C. What a brand ambassador she is!

 

[Lovely]

Does anyone else feel like maybe she will lie low for a bit now? I could be wrong, but she's had way more attention/questions asked this time around and clearly that's made her uncomfortable. Initially she was talking about wanting to be NED by the end of the year and then last week she started mentioning how 'the end of next week' would be so much better. And now, very conveniently, she's NED!

She can either double down on the H4C claims, in the knowledge that people are asking difficult questions and that's probably not going to stop (also, she'll have to keep up with all the bull 'treatments' and sticking stuff up her bum to make it look like she's still following their 'protocol'). Or she can say that she just wants to move on from this experience/she's traumatised and needs to heal, blah blah (basically, take the money and run).

I'm curious to see what she does next. Although, if she has not had her results analysed and explained to her by an actual oncologist familiar with her history, and she's really just relying on her quack doctor and a radiologist report, then anything she says about the results is nonsense anyway.

 

[loveinfluenzas]

Wow she is so full of tit. A radiologist will never give you your results on the spot, it's against protocol. She has just outed herself as the biggest scammer by saying that, then they go to her doctor friend in London . And while not completely impossible, it's very rare to be NED so quickly with that much cancer all through your body.

 

[somanyteeth]

Wow she is so full of tit. A radiologist will never give you your results on the spot, it's against protocol. She has just outed herself as the biggest scammer by saying that, then they go to her doctor friend in London . And while not completely impossible, it's very rare to be NED so quickly with that much cancer all through your body.

Yes exactly and thats why the letter from James Fletcher is interesting. Saying this is her medical history. Not her current diagnosis.
We dont know anything about her mets/tumours this time. There is nothing official aside from what she says and you're right. I havent lived in Aus for a few years now but a radiographer takes the images and they get sent to a radiologist. Ive had a few MRIs in my time and i think the soonest I got my results was 3 days (and they missed a tear) so they went back. There is no way a radiologist sat in the room looking at the scan as she was in the machine. None.

Does anyone else feel like maybe she will lie low for a bit now? I could be wrong, but she's had way more attention/questions asked this time around and clearly that's made her uncomfortable. Initially she was talking about wanting to be NED by the end of the year and then last week she started mentioning how 'the end of next week' would be so much better. And now, very conveniently, she's NED!

She can either double down on the H4C claims, in the knowledge that people are asking difficult questions and that's probably not going to stop (also, she'll have to keep up with all the bull 'treatments' and sticking stuff up her bum to make it look like she's still following their 'protocol'). Or she can say that she just wants to move on from this experience/she's traumatised and needs to heal, blah blah (basically, take the money and run).

I'm curious to see what she does next. Although, if she has not had her results analysed and explained to her by an actual oncologist familiar with her history, and she's really just relying on her quack doctor and a radiologist report, then anything she says about the results is nonsense anyway.

I reckon she's shutting up shop on this business quick smart. I think Pablo and a tattle thread have made her tit her dacks. She cant lie anymore now.

Also, no way NED from having brain mets. Not a chance. Medical marvel that needs to be studied.

 

[notgifted]

Yes exactly and thats why the letter from James Fletcher is interesting. Saying this is her medical history. Not her current diagnosis.
We dont know anything about her mets/tumours this time. There is nothing official aside from what she says and you're right. I havent lived in Aus for a few years now but a radiographer takes the images and they get sent to a radiologist. Ive had a few MRIs in my time and i think the soonest I got my results was 3 days (and they missed a tear) so they went back. There is no way a radiologist sat in the room looking at the scan as she was in the machine. None.

I reckon she's shutting up shop on this business quick smart. I think Pablo and a tattle thread have made her tit her dacks. She cant lie anymore now.

Also, no way NED from having brain mets. Not a chance. Medical marvel that needs to be studied.

I guess this all confirms what I already suspected, that she never even had cancer, she’s miraculously cured now so she, giving false hope of a swift recovery for all the legitimate sick and dying people out there watching her stories, they’ll now mortgage their homes and beg for money to get to the clinic in Mexico, when in fact if she did have sort sort of cancer it was the modern medicine that cured it, not a coffee enema.

 

[WellAndWealthyBossBabe]

The Dr in London has got me Why? You live in Australia, you had one appointment with a local oncologist and presented a letter from him yet your “results” go to a London Dr? Could it be anymore convoluted and bizarre? It’s a story that just in the face of it is unbelievable?

 

[cjenny]

The Dr in London has got me Why? You live in Australia, you had one appointment with a local oncologist and presented a letter from him yet your “results” go to a London Dr? Could it be anymore convoluted and bizarre? It’s a story that just in the face of it is unbelievable?

Who she has admitted is a GP. I wouldn’t trust any GP with life limiting results

 

[FingerMouse]

I reckon she's shutting up shop on this business quick smart. I think Pablo and a tattle thread have made her tit her dacks. She cant lie anymore now.

Also, no way NED from having brain mets. Not a chance. Medical marvel that needs to be studied.

Yep, I came here to say just that - she's a medical bleeping miracle if any of this is legit straight up.