Thank you! So when Kate is talking about “scans” she had there they are actually useless scan that give false hope? Because didn’t she get a “scan” that showed 9 of her 10 brain tumours had disappeared?
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I’d love to know what the difference between a MRI/CT scan and an ultrasound is in terms of showing tumour progress. There’s obviously got to be some reason why H4C only uses ultrasound for its patients (perhaps it’s just that they don’t have people qualified to operate MRI/CT machines and to interpret their results - or cost of the machines, which surely would be prohibitive outside of a hospital setting). It’s just so weird that they come away from H4C thinking they have actual scans showing tumour reduction or disappearance, when clearly that’s not the case. It’s so desperately sad.
From what I understand ultrasound would be completely useless and never used for brain imaging to check for metastatic disease. It also would not be used for imaging of lung cancer and the only time it would be used is as guidance for a biopsy. Usually a PET scan is the modality used for cancer staging. Interestingly Mermaid Imaging does not have a PET scanner from what I can see online.
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MRI and CT are usually the first scans you are sent for if there is a suspicion of cancer for initial diagnosis but once cancer is discovered they move onto a PET scan and then follow up would be with PET so you are comparing like for like. Does anyone know if she has had a PET scan?
Ive only just discovered this thread thanks to my friend who sent it to me and Ive been wanting to say all of this somewhere but thanks @DunningKrugerEffect for making this so clear and succinct and I think everyone can understand this!
This woman doesnt have cancer. I am a "cancer scientist" (i say it that way as its easier to explain) and my patients who used to be terminal on phase 1 studies did not look like her.
I am sure she said her cancer was terminal hence H4C being her only option but there is absolutely no way and I say this with 100000% certainty that the woowoo tit she is doing, is not shrinking her cancers. She probably never had cancer.
Has she ever said what cancer she had? I only learned from her from leila and pablo and I dont think I ever learned what cancer she has? I know she has tumours on her brain but Im sure she said she had mets on her lungs? I see she was on Alectinib so I assume she has non-small cell lung cancer. Was this her first line? Or second line?
Was she ever on ipilimumab or nivolumab?
Alectinib had (i havent been up to date on this) a 35 month progression free survival period. So if she was on Alectinib then she may not have been terminal and now its all just a scam so she can holiday in tijuana. So scammy.
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Can you pls let me know what the second targeted chemo she is on is?
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You cannot see cancer well with a ultrasound, a tumour sure maybe, but not the spread of cancer and not stage IV
Ct and mri are similar in detecting cancer
Ct is used sparingly because it has high doses of radiation but is quick and you can do the full body very fast
mri,takes a long time, is safer but it not available everywhere and takes so long and a lot of people don’t tolerate being in an mri
both detect changes in bone and tissue, mri isbetter atpicking up small changes
ct struggles to show deep organ cancer like prostate or uterus and doesn’t show Mets as well as mri especially in the liver or brain
A PET scan will give you more information about the cancer you find on MRI or CT
Ultrasound isn’t used to detect or stage or as an adjunct to care for cancer patients, sometimes you shouldnt use it and sometimes it can be helpful with some treatments but not to detect or stage
What a crappy reply.
I really hope pablo calling her out is the start of something more. Can we report her go fund me? Does she still have it active?
I think Im also going to find a way to report her to the TGA via their false advertising route.
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I cannot fucken stand listening to her speak.
What on earth was that blue tit in the nebuliser? Why is she using a nebuliser? Omg im raging so hard.
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The reason conspiracy theories start and all this other woo woo tit is because people cannot understand the science of how medicine actually works and so bc they're too stupid to understand it, its automatically evil, so they create this narrative that is easy to understand and thats how they do their teachings. The amount of people i have met telling me "doctors have a cure for cancer but it makes them too much money to tell us" and Im like DO YOU HONESTLY THINK ID LET MY PATIENTS DIE IF I COULD CURE THEM?! Part of what they dont understand is cancer is a blanket statement. None of them know duck all about anything and "thinking away your cancer" seems like an easy process and humans want the easy way out.
I am SO sorry your friend said that you. Even though I know you know she is wrong, it can still play on your mind but I know you are doing all the right things by you! Only you and your doctors who have years of experience can know how you are. UGH. Who needs enemies with friends like that!
Tattlers have your back
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Thank you so much for this explanation, it’s so clear and I really appreciate it.
I hope it helps, I may have been half asleep and its riddled with crappy gramer and spelling errors haha
but the point is ultrasound is not used to detect cancer, and never to stage it. If something suspicious was found on ultrasound, you would then get an MRI or CT to confirm and then a PET depending.
Of course every patient is different, as is every cancer and every doctor, BUT, ultrasound is NEVER used to detect or stage cancer. If that stupid mexico bull 5 star quak fest is using it, its because no trained radiologist or radiographer is going to go along with this bull and I dont know but I would suspect buying a MRI or CT, and using it, wouldn't be that easy for a bunch of fakes?
Ultrasound though, wave the wand around, no danger, you can buy it easily and when you show people ultrasounds, even doctors with a lot of experience, it's really really hard to read them. I imagine they use them as proof, "look, there is nothing there", because tricking a patient with a blurry difficult to read ultrasound image, is a lot easier then a very obvious MRI or CT image
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Ill shut up now but here are some examples of ultrasound vs MRI of the brain and liver, and why I think they use ultrasound. It's really difficult to lie with MRI or CT images, where as ultrasound is hard to read for people who are not trained, you might see something, but it could be easily explained in a way that makes it sound like its shrunk or getting better or, you could just skip scanning that area properly and get no image of something that is actually there
MRI and CT are going to show the patient who knows what their original imaging looked like, that nothing has changed, if anthing its progressed
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This info is fantastic! Thank You so much. If only her dead tit following that funded this bull hoax could see this.
That caption/response from the NHS trust is the best thing Ive seen in a while.
Smart doctors who studied in the field FOR DECADES do not give a single duck about someones feelings. They deal in facts and she got so butthurt over it.
I would love to know our very informed tattlers’ thoughts on Kate wearing the bleeping helmet with nasal prongs in for “photobiomodulation” or whatever tit she’s doing 
it’s bleeping ridiculous
it’s bleeping ridiculous
My friend is anti child immunisations, anything to do with covid treatments, pneumonia and whopping cough immunisations.. but when she said the covid immunisations caused my MS, I was a tad shocked and laughed. I explained that my MS was diagnosed before covid hit our shores. She doesn't believe in western medicine to treat any form of cancer. She said the only places you can depend on is centres like H4C ... I have a Dr that listens to me and works with me to stay healthy. I don't think we will ever know the truth with Kate. Shes a conspiracy theorist and a narcissist.What a crappy reply.
I really hope pablo calling her out is the start of something more. Can we report her go fund me? Does she still have it active?
I think Im also going to find a way to report her to the TGA via their false advertising route.
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I cannot fucken stand listening to her speak.
What on earth was that blue tit in the nebuliser? Why is she using a nebuliser? Omg im raging so hard.
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The reason conspiracy theories start and all this other woo woo tit is because people cannot understand the science of how medicine actually works and so bc they're too stupid to understand it, its automatically evil, so they create this narrative that is easy to understand and thats how they do their teachings. The amount of people i have met telling me "doctors have a cure for cancer but it makes them too much money to tell us" and Im like DO YOU HONESTLY THINK ID LET MY PATIENTS DIE IF I COULD CURE THEM?! Part of what they dont understand is cancer is a blanket statement. None of them know duck all about anything and "thinking away your cancer" seems like an easy process and humans want the easy way out.
I am SO sorry your friend said that you. Even though I know you know she is wrong, it can still play on your mind but I know you are doing all the right things by you! Only you and your doctors who have years of experience can know how you are. UGH. Who needs enemies with friends like that!
Tattlers have your back
I’d like to follow Pablo on insta, I’m new to this thread but it’s been a real eye opener! Someone previously posted an Instagram handle for Pablo but when I looked it didn’t exist - would be grateful for their current account name pleasePablo would be getting so MANY inboxes about Kate as we all want this exposed, just none of us are brave enough to use our face name to do so which is why we use this forum. We want justice and these dodgy, grifting, lying, narcissistic sociopaths to be called out. Pablo can use whatever they want from wherever they want and although they may get leads from here I think it’s fair to say they still research and clarify and delve into all details to ensure they are sharing accurate information.
Keep it up Pablo, you’re the MVP in my eyes
🩶I would love to know our very informed tattlers’ thoughts on Kate wearing the bleeping helmet with nasal prongs in for “photobiomodulation” or whatever tit she’s doing
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Yes, she looked like something out of a D rated alia flop. and the blue mouth and tongue and nose prongs. She looks like a bleeping tool. I feel for the little girl, having to watch the circus. And when she said she includes her daughter in everything, letting her give her needles etc. What a crappy memory for that child.
And add the blue tongue and mouth. She looks like a bleeping tool.I would love to know our very informed tattlers’ thoughts on Kate wearing the bleeping helmet with nasal prongs in for “photobiomodulation” or whatever tit she’s doing
Can anyone speak to what kind of scans these are that she provided to the Daily Mirror?
Also, I could’ve sworn I remembered Pablo making the remark that one of the scans here showed Covid and not a cancer tumor but when I went back to rewatch their video I could not find that reference. Perhaps they edited it out or perhaps I imagined it. At any rate, I would be curious for the medical professionals in this thread to give us their opinion on what we are looking at here…
(It seems to me that each of the scans are not taken at the exact same location in the body so can not be used for accurate comparison at any rate. It appears to me that the bottom one is from either a lower or higher slice-through, if you will, than the top one. But that is just my Layman’s interpretation, by someone who reads blueprints for a living
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Also, I could’ve sworn I remembered Pablo making the remark that one of the scans here showed Covid and not a cancer tumor but when I went back to rewatch their video I could not find that reference. Perhaps they edited it out or perhaps I imagined it. At any rate, I would be curious for the medical professionals in this thread to give us their opinion on what we are looking at here…
(It seems to me that each of the scans are not taken at the exact same location in the body so can not be used for accurate comparison at any rate. It appears to me that the bottom one is from either a lower or higher slice-through, if you will, than the top one. But that is just my Layman’s interpretation, by someone who reads blueprints for a living
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Terminally ill mum claims tumour's shrunk 75% after 'alternative care'
Kate Malvenan was given between six and 24 months to live last year when she was diagnosed with lung cancer - but treatment most medical professionals reject has given her new hope
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Their handle is @pabloalfierriI’d like to follow Pablo on insta, I’m new to this thread but it’s been a real eye opener! Someone previously posted an Instagram handle for Pablo but when I looked it didn’t exist - would be grateful for their current account name please
On Instagram, Kate just posted a letter from her "oncology consultant" who said he was "asked to write this letter to confirm that Kate [last name crossed out] has a diagnosis of metastatic and incurable non-small cell lung cancer with brain metastases..." --Dr. James Fletcher, BSc MBBS FRACP. Consultant Medical Oncologist. 02 Aug 2023. Icon Cancer Centre Southport, South Brisbane QLD.
She also posted the results of a brain MRI with contrast that has Dr. Fletcher's name on it but I didn't see a date. Anyway it said:
Clinical History: ALK Mutant NSCLC. New SNC metastasis. Extent of metastasis... Left frontoparietal grey 22x18x22 mm. Left frontoparietal lobe 3mm. Left parieto-occipital 3mm. Right occipital 3x1mm. Right occipital 2x2mm. Right occipital 6x5x5mm. Left occipital 2mm. Left cerebellum 6x6x5mm. Left inferior cerebellum 6x6x5mm. Left cerebellum 3mm.
She also posted the results of a brain MRI with contrast that has Dr. Fletcher's name on it but I didn't see a date. Anyway it said:
Clinical History: ALK Mutant NSCLC. New SNC metastasis. Extent of metastasis... Left frontoparietal grey 22x18x22 mm. Left frontoparietal lobe 3mm. Left parieto-occipital 3mm. Right occipital 3x1mm. Right occipital 2x2mm. Right occipital 6x5x5mm. Left occipital 2mm. Left cerebellum 6x6x5mm. Left inferior cerebellum 6x6x5mm. Left cerebellum 3mm.
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She’s been reading here -or someone close to her has been.
Ok, well I feel very sorry for her that she has a horrible terminal diagnosis.
I also feel sorry that she is wasting whatever time she has left on these "cure all" treatments but I understand that when faced with the possibility of death that one might wish to exhaust all options.
I still don't agree with the shilling of a place in Mexico that "cures" people with enemas, vitamin C, functional mushrooms and "forgiveness".
Vulnerable people look up to her as an influencer, she has a responsibility to be transparent about the pros and cons of the alternative treatments instead of these fantastical stories of miraculous results.
I also feel sorry that she is wasting whatever time she has left on these "cure all" treatments but I understand that when faced with the possibility of death that one might wish to exhaust all options.
I still don't agree with the shilling of a place in Mexico that "cures" people with enemas, vitamin C, functional mushrooms and "forgiveness".
Vulnerable people look up to her as an influencer, she has a responsibility to be transparent about the pros and cons of the alternative treatments instead of these fantastical stories of miraculous results.
The letter she posted looks a bit pasted together if you ask me. Obvs she's blacked out the personal info but look at the colour difference in the main body copy, the address in the top right looks wonky, and it may just be my eyes but the left margins don't line up.
Or perhaps it's time for me to start wearing the tin foil hat....
Or perhaps it's time for me to start wearing the tin foil hat....
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