Oh it's probably not blood, it just looked like it though. Would be weird if the new owners had kept something like this all that time. There's meant to be ring cameras there so I guess they can find whoever put it there before the viewing.Do you have a link please? Why would there be blood on it now? I’m super confused (although that is easily done)
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Considering the Alberts have moved the whole rock thing is super weird and the first time I have ever heard about it. Is Lally going to change the events and say JOK hit his head on the rock now and this is now the cause of death? A totally different story from the previous trials! It is insane
Her SUV looks amazingly clean comsidering it has been in storage for years.
Weird hearing a Yorkshireman's voice during a US trial. During the first trial I felt the same way.
I recall this expert witness really caring about his work and taking exception to some of the questions from the def.
I recall this expert witness really caring about his work and taking exception to some of the questions from the def.
I have seen quite a few videos of Fairview etc since the accident and not one has ever shown this rock. Turtleboy did his own reconstruction there, as I mentioned previously, where he tried to do the reverse there was not a rock there and not any other photos that I have seen. I expect that someone will say they saw it there during the reconstruction set up but it wasn’t there after the jury left. It is just weird IMO
Just saw this
I'm not great at sitting concentrating on witness testimony etc (I'd make a tit juror!) - but Ian Whiffen's evidence seems to be validating what Jen McCabe stated about her phone use?
Jen McCabe is next - watch as the defence bring in crates of paperwork - ‘can I see that’? while she is in shock and horror 
while she is in shock and horror Hmm
She testified before that she didn’t know how to delete a search, he’s saying he found at least 5?
Also that if you open a tab it doesn’t update until you close it? That one seemed weird…. By that you could open a tab and use the same one for months and anything you searched would have the original time stamp of months before?
He did say that there were thousands of entries deleted overall, and he couldn’t see a way for a user to delete these individually, and he could only attribute it to a system doing it?
He did also explain the same tab thing but adhd brain has lost that info
must go dig it back out Brennan is doing my head in - he is so rude to Dr. Wolfe. - luckily there isn’t a brick nearby or it would have gone straight through my tv 
Is this “Crash Daddy”?
One of the ARCCA experts - it is horrendous to watch and Auntie Bev is letting it happen - disgusting
If AJ went after a witness like this she'd have pulled his Pro Hac Vice. It's gross.
Exactly - Bev’s bias is so obvious it is beyond laughable. The only thing that makes me laugh is Dr. Wolfe’s smile all the way through it - he is just too intelligent for Brennan’s tantrums and way to good looking so I’ll keep watching
Wow so the 80 steps and the flight climbed data was recorded when JOK was still in the car.
BUT - when did Karen connect to Johns WiFi?
BUT - when did Karen connect to Johns WiFi?
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I think it was about 00.45 when she got back to his house.
This has a timeline in it from last years trial but doesn’t mention the wifi
Karen Read murder case: A timeline of events
Prosecutors say Karen Read backed her SUV into John O'Keefe and left him for dead. She claims she dropped him off and never heard from him again.
www.courttv.com
Ah ok, I thought I’d heard/seen it was more like 12:30am. Interesting.I think it was about 00.45 when she got back to his house.
This has a timeline in it from last years trial but doesn’t mention the wifi
Karen Read murder case: A timeline of events
Prosecutors say Karen Read backed her SUV into John O'Keefe and left him for dead. She claims she dropped him off and never heard from him again.
I may be wrong - I’ll check
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“We do know she was home at 12:41,because she calls him there and leaves a voice mail In the background you can hear the garage door and her high heels against the concrete floor of the garage”
“There are discrepancies in data about when they arrive at 34 Fairview, earliest possible is 12:24 and GPS says 12:32. There is a 7 min drive from fairview to JOs home, so she cannot have been there for more than a few minutes to 8 minutes max.”
They arrived just before the Nagel’s pulled up and the three of them witnessed and verified Karen was alone in the car when they passed her as they left and never saw anything on the lawn.
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I think it was 12:36 when she connected to the wi fi
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