Karen Read Case

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I also think if they reopen the pool that the Alberts had filled with concrete they might find the remains of a German Sheppard
 
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The officer from the other police department testified that the tail light was cracked with a piece missing but not broken.
Then over time after the incident the police kept finding pieces of tail light on their way home from work - it didn’t make sense to me how they can find 47 pieces if it was just cracked with a small piece missing.
There’s also a. Video of Karen bumping into John’s car with her car in the driveway which could have cracked it.

ARCCA was hired by the FBI to investigate the case and they found that it wasn’t possible for John to have been hit by a car, the judge ruled that the jury weren’t allowed to know who hired ARCCA in the last trial which caused confusion. I think it’s Friday they’re arguing if it’s going to be allowed in this time or not.

Barros’ testimony is in this video like 6 mins in
Thanks, I'll check this out - new to this case so it's interesting to see what has been debunked so far.
 
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Love that there is a thread for this, I watched the full trial and now watching the retrial, she is so obviously innocent, there is too much doubt. Both Brian's getting rid of their phones, Michael Proctor is a pig and the judge is a joke!

Alan Jackson is amazing!!
Oh yes I forgot about them getting rid of their phones! Alan Jackson is formidable on the cross, I'm sat behind a TV and I feel like I've done something wrong 😂
 
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I watch Attorney Melanie Little on YT. I followed it all last year and could not believe the verdict.

The first two witnesses have been a total disaster so far in V2 - His mum is on the stand now but I doubt she will be cross examined by Alan Jackson.

At least Proctor was sacked and hopefully some others will be prosecuted for perjury - especially Jen McCabe who is so deep into this I’m surprised she hasn’t been thrown a life jacket.

I totally believe Karen was set up and the Albert’s and Higgins did the deed inside 34 Fairview and at 0330, when the Ford was seen outside the house, by the plough driver, the body was moved onto the lawn

#Hos long to die in the cold
 
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I also think if they reopen the pool that the Alberts had filled with concrete they might find the remains of a German Sheppard
Chloe the dog was rehomed in another state but the defence were never told this info so were unable to obtain evidence, teeth patterns etc. The DNA from John’s arm came back as pig IIRC - could it have been from a dog treat such as pigs ears?
They sold their long term family home a few months after the murder - even though it was never forensically examined but you may be right about poor Chloe which is terrible if they did that.
 
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Chloe the dog was rehomed in another state but the defence were never told this info so were unable to obtain evidence, teeth patterns etc. The DNA from John’s arm came back as pig IIRC - could it have been from a dog treat such as pigs ears?
They sold their long term family home a few months after the murder - even though it was never forensically examined but you may be right about poor Chloe which is terrible if they did that.
During the Daubert hearing for Dr Russell, Hank said they had located Chloe and taken moulds of her mouth but who is to say it’s really Chloe. Dogs mouths can also change over time so no idea how reliable it is or if they’ll actually use it.

Kerry Roberts’ cross has been a total tit show, Alan Jackson eviscerated her not sure Hank Brennan can really recover from her admitting to lying to the grand jury. I wish Bev would stop helping witnesses answer questions though it doesn’t sit right.
 
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During the Daubert hearing for Dr Russell, Hank said they had located Chloe and taken moulds of her mouth but who is to say it’s really Chloe. Dogs mouths can also change over time so no idea how reliable it is or if they’ll actually use it.

Kerry Roberts’ cross has been a total tit show, Alan Jackson eviscerated her not sure Hank Brennan can really recover from her admitting to lying to the grand jury. I wish Bev would stop helping witnesses answer questions though it doesn’t sit right.
That’s interesting and I wasn’t aware of them finding Chloe - at least she is still alive

Kerry Roberts was hoping the floor would open up 😬

Judge Bev is a ‘friend’ and was asked to recuse herself before the first trial but wouldn’t. She is defo on the prosecution side.

AJ did not ask John’s mum any questions on the cross. Must say I find him quite hot 😘
 
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That’s interesting and I wasn’t aware of them finding Chloe - at least she is still alive

Kerry Roberts was hoping the floor would open up 😬

Judge Bev is a ‘friend’ and was asked to recuse herself before the first trial but wouldn’t. She is defo on the prosecution side.

AJ did not ask John’s mum any questions on the cross. Must say I find him quite hot 😘
Yeah she refused and she’s had a bunch of shady decisions like she mostly sides with the commonwealth then gives the defence a tidbit to try and not look biased.

Did you ever see the clip where she’s like “is something funny Ms Read?” She despises AJ and Karen Read
She can be quite snippy to Robert Alessi too
 
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Oh yes I forgot about them getting rid of their phones! Alan Jackson is formidable on the cross, I'm sat behind a TV and I feel like I've done something wrong 😂
Plus didn't Higgins go to some sort of Military base to dispose of his phone ?

Its all a big cover up and the Brian's, Proctor and Jen are bang in the middle of it.

I have not seen Jackson question Kerry yet but can't wait to watch and your so right about him 😂 😂 😂 .

He is a fantastic lawyer for Karen and he won't stop until she gets a not guilty verdict.
 
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Chloe the dog was rehomed in another state but the defence were never told this info so were unable to obtain evidence, teeth patterns etc. The DNA from John’s arm came back as pig IIRC - could it have been from a dog treat such as pigs ears?
They sold their long term family home a few months after the murder - even though it was never forensically examined but you may be right about poor Chloe which is terrible if they did that.
I am not sure of the timings of them covering the pool but it is definitely suspicious if it was done in the days/weeks after John was killed.
 
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Plus didn't Higgins go to some sort of Military base to dispose of his phone ?

Its all a big cover up and the Brian's, Proctor and Jen are bang in the middle of it.

I have not seen Jackson question Kerry yet but can't wait to watch and your so right about him 😂 😂 😂 .

He is a fantastic lawyer for Karen and he won't stop until she gets a not guilty verdict.
Yes he drove to a military base to dump his phone/sim card - he said it was a shortcut - yeah right

you are in for a treat when AJ questions Kerry Roberts - she is obviously being coached by Jen McCabe - I cannot wait for her to get back on the stand - AJ will be so ready for her with her ‘can I see that’?

I defo would 😜 AJ my new crush
 
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What makes Higgins more suspicious is there was a bit of a thing with him and Karen but it seemed like she was using him to make John jealous and didn’t actually want him. But it gives him motive.

he destroyed his phone himself the day before a preservation order and gave the investigators an extract he did himself so he could have hidden whatever he wanted.

Higgins also got caught calling in to the JFK show on YouTube complaining about them making accusations against “decorated dudes” 😅

 
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Just listening to a podcast on this - madness! If her tail light is broken, John's hair is in the tail light, the broken glass is next to John on the ground, then how is that not a cut and dried case?
This is the position most people start from. Then they dig into it a little more and 36 hours of internet crazy later, it's less clear. 🤪
 
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I am catching up on yesterday and currently watching Johns mother, the poor woman burying two children.

I just don't understand her very clear hate for Karen, I can understand as a mother looking for someone to blame etc. but its very obvious they never got along, especially with her asking why was Karen at the hospital because she wouldn't have known by then that Karen was going to be blamed on killing him.

Laughing at Hank calling the Lexus the murder 'weapon' 😂 😂 😂
 
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