I don’t think they did any X-rays did they?
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I will say the coaching worked for me. Trial 1 I couldn't stand her. Trial 2 I felt much more sympathetic towards her on cross. I still don't believe her though.
None came in as evidence in the first trial. If they did I don't see why they wouldn't have been admitted.
I would love to be in the head of the first jurors who are seeing this (maybe) and how different this trial is. Maybe the former juror (lawyer) that joined the defense will talk about it afterward.
Where did you get this from?
Tom Beatty posted about it on his Facebook, calls are from Jen McCabe’s call logs.
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So glad there's a thread on this case!
I watched the majority of the first trial and so far all of this retrial. I'm still a bit undecided...
I think the verdict has to be not guilty purely because of the botched investigation and the sheer amount of reasonable doubt but part of me thinks she did it. I also think something happened at the Alberts that night (maybe unrelated to John O'Keefe) involving Higgins that they were panicked about when the police started investigating that evening..
I watched the majority of the first trial and so far all of this retrial. I'm still a bit undecided...
I think the verdict has to be not guilty purely because of the botched investigation and the sheer amount of reasonable doubt but part of me thinks she did it. I also think something happened at the Alberts that night (maybe unrelated to John O'Keefe) involving Higgins that they were panicked about when the police started investigating that evening..
In case you are interested, The Prosecutors Podcast has just released a recap of the retrial (week 1) under their Legal Briefs podcast channel.
That's interesting you say that, I've felt the whole time that the whole group are shifty and hiding something, but not necessarily the cover up the defence accused them of. Too much about their behaviour after the incident has been off.
Jennifer McCabe is a little flustered today compared with Wednesday. Saintly compared with trial one.
I think if I had someone coming at me like that, I’d be hostile too
Oh I’d be hideous in her shoes. There’d be memes.I think if I had someone coming at me like that, I’d be hostile too
He’s so abrasive and rude, as if she’s the one on trial. I’d be out my seat wringing his bloody neck
That 5.07am call to Nicole changes everything. Clink clink Jen
So no way she woke them up after 6am !!
Karen Read reminds me of the woman who sings "Don't Call Me Baby". Madison avenue?
They all left John to die in the cold and Jen even googled how long it would take for him to die. How evil. Hope Karen sues the state and the rest of them get locked up. There is no question in my mind of her innocence
Was Matt McCabe a good friend of John's? Seemed more interested in sports than the dead bloke. Or "the guy"
You really think a bunch of cops left a colleague of theirs to die on one of their own front lawn? Without checking he was actually dead? That seems a pretty basic mistake to make.
Yes I do, or maybe he was dead before they put him on the lawn.
Either way they are up to their neck in it and in the cover up and Jen is the puppet master, in my opinion.
Do you think Karen killed him?
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