Just_chill_mama

[Cereal Killer]

I think the reviews read like they’ve been written by the same person, made me question the authenticity of them.

It is so hard when you’re desperate and see the glowing reviews, I nearly bought into myself when my toddler decided 2-5am was party time.

Just think, one day they’ll be teenagers wanting to sleep the day away. We can go in with pots and pans to get revenge.

 

[Ashad]

I think she tries to take the ‘really gentle’ angle so the moms who dont want to do cry it out get suckered in (like me). You only realise that you got conned into after the spending money. And of course there are no guarantees so if it doesn’t work its because you didn’t do it properly.

I think a lot of these sleep trainers advertise themselves as against cry it out but instead they advise leaving the baby to cry in the crib and just patting and shushing them etc as apart of the gradual steps. I tried that crap and in the end I found it easier to just pick up my baby and soothe her straight to sleep so I didn’t spend half an hour getting wound up.

 

[gift_me_hun]

Just had a look at her stories… then I saw the smug cows face on her new reel about not comparing. Taking the moral high ground about not parent shaming Millie mackintosh and her unsafe sleeping practice with her baby being in her own room at 2 months - the reason she’s not commenting is because she doesn’t want to upset Millie as she’ll most likely be gifting her sleep advice in a few months

 

[Emmas83]

Another person with non sleeping children here!!! If they are teething etc there’s not much you can do to stop them waking or not in my case anyway calpol only lasts so long!! I do agree with the above anyone who’s kid sleeps through the night every night from 6 months onwards is lying.

 

[Izzy249]

Really gets on my nerves how she’s straight in there congratulating influencers on their babies, ready to pounce to give them free sleep advice. She’s already congratulated Lucy Watson

 

[justcryitoutmama]

Just another way for her to ram her bullshit down parents throats! The solution to every issue in every chapter will be “sleep train teach your baby to fall asleep independently”

 

[Ashad]

Oh this woman! I hate her!

My 9 month old wakes every hour, she just wants the comfort. I get my sleep by going to bed as soon as she does. It is hard. But what is even harder is the idea that I am doing a bad job? That my baby should be sleeping through the night as apparently from 6 months onwards they should be.

I also hate the magic sleep fairy. Millie Mackintosh was going on about how babies don’t cry for no reason. And how if they are crying you need to ‘fix’ that. By medicating them and then teaching them not to cry?!?!

My baby did the same waking hourly. I was googling advice from all these sleep experts and tried “put them down awake”... patting and shushing......it was just stressing me out. In the end I co-slept and gave my baby what she wanted so she would fall asleep quickly. She slept through at 17 months- I didn’t do anything different. She wanted milk in the night and I gave it to her. If people want to sleep train that is their choice. I personally think it’s wrong for influencers to advertise their services when their followers are vulnerable new mums. I was taken in by these influencers claiming the sleep training work but I am glad I didn’t do it.

 

[Beepbopbooploopdoop]

Long term lurker on another thread here… But I saw the anonymous message calling her smug and figured she must have a tattle page so couldn’t resist
Her courses are an absolute con. I bought the 0-5 and 6-9 while I was pregnant when she was banging on about being “gentle” and “responsive”, I genuinely didn’t think she was a CIO sleep trainer! The 0-5 doesn’t contain anything more than what you can find for free, the section on the 4 month regression was a joke, essentially saying it won’t be an issue if your baby can fall asleep independently but NEWSFLASH that is a crock of shit. My baby could fall asleep independently, we practised since he was about 6 weeks old because she made me believe it was the holy grail of baby sleep so I missed out on so many newborn sleepy cuddles obviously the 4 month regression his us like a ton of bricks anyway. Fast forward to 6 months and I was relieved that I could start the next course and ‘fix’ his (perfectly normal) sleep with her magic methods only to find out it’s glorified (simplified!!!) Ferber. I felt so cheated! Not leaving them to cry you say Rosey? Lies. Not to mention the fact the courses clearly haven’t been proofread (so many grammar errors), are full of holes (give baby a comforter but take it away when they’re asleep so then they can’t recreate those falling asleep conditions on waking which is apparently paramount? Baby needs to be eating 3 solid meals a day, what 6 month old is? Many 7, 8, 9 month olds aren’t) and clearly not evidence based. Just absolute bullshit and it makes me so angry that she’s constantly pushing her courses down the throats of exhausted parents!
So if traditional sleep training isn’t your thing, don’t buy her course, give Lyndsey Hookway a follow on insta, she’s a paediatric nurse/health visitor/IBCLC (so actually qualified and knows the evidence, or lack of, inside out) and has written multiple brilliant books. Also secondstartotheright_sleep and littlenestsleep for normalising infant sleep and gentle tips. And if you do want to sleep train, don’t line that witch’s pockets, just look up Ferber on google attaching her 6-9 suggested routine and settling methods in case anyone is interested

Yes yes yes to all this! I was you not too long ago and STUPIDLY bought the 0-5 and 6-9. Honestly she is brilliant at making you feel like a failure. How she doesn't even know the bare minimum of normal baby sleep is beyond me considering her 'job'. Absolute piece of shit woman she is.

 

[wakametango 2.0]

A book

Just what every new mum who’s baby isn’t sleeping wants! To read a flipping book on top of it all!

 

[FakeSmile]

Sweeeeeeeet Jesus I can't bare her reels . Why can't she stand still? Why is the leg always having to be at a 90degree angle? Weird.

I had to unfollow her for her reels alone. The second hand embarrassment was too much for me.

 

[Thuderfly]

I do agree with some thing just chill witch says, it’s nice to see someone speak about the dangers out cot bumpers, when many ‘celebs’ go on about ‘these ones are breathable’. But she’s still greedy

Yes totally agree, safe sleeping is a basic thing which all women with babies will be advised on so she’s not invented that. Her only redeeming feature that she refers to the lullaby trust, which is admittedly a very good thing. But the sleep training stuff has no founding.

Blending an evidence based public health message from decades ago with controlled crying, repackaged as truly a scientific (and therefore expensive) miracle is I suppose the issue I have.

I’m so surprised medical professionals who seem credible and intelligent to me collaborate with her regularly when her content is largely misinformation and bad science. But maybe it’s a case of helping each other climb in the social media world.

 

[Ashad]

I know she doesn’t want to give too much away about the methods in her course but I just can’t bring myself to buy it despite being hugely sleep deprived as I don’t want to waste money without knowing what she bases her routines on. We’ve tried other ‘sleep training’ routines and following wake windows, nothing has worked for my little one yet. I say sleep training loosely as we won’t leave her baby to be distressed but have tried some set routines you find online etc.

I nearly caved and bought a course but I didn’t want to spend the money knowing there was no guarantee I then did a different approach and co-slept, fed to sleep and I napped when my baby did. My partner would have her in the mornings at weekends so I could catch up on sleep. It was so hard but after about 16 months she started sleeping through.

 

[swipeyourface]

Her course worked for me, I would rather sleep train than end up seriously mentally ill which was where it was going but I find it very strange she shares lullaby trust all the time and all about a clear sleep space for baby but one of her big things is a comforter which goes against safe sleep guidelines??

 

[thegirlwho2020]

She’s so despicable. I just clicked on her last post where she asked if anyone has any questions about their baby being up for hours at night. Rather than give advice like all other sleep accts I’ve seen, she’s just saying things like ‘book into our 1:1 to see if we can help’ etc. those 1:1’s are a minimum of £85 as just checked. She’s such a horrible scrounger

 

[foxcubs1000]

I didn’t mind her and she does offer alternatives to CIO and says do what works for you but … she follows Kate lawler and Charlotte Dawson, two of the worst mothers in Instagram. One is obsessed with sleep and the other keeps her child up to all hours. You can see she licks the arses of celebrities. That’s really put me off her.

 

[Beepbopbooploopdoop]

Sweeeeeeeet Jesus I can't bare her reels . Why can't she stand still? Why is the leg always having to be at a 90degree angle? Weird.

 

[LoTiLu]

She should have had an option for “didn’t work at all” to get a true reflection. Full of shit!

 

[SJ08]

Christ her Tik tok style videos she does makes me cringe!!!!

She pulls the most bizarre faces in her videos on Instagram, her eyes wide open and head shaking!

 

[Eyeofthetiger]

Oh this woman! I hate her!

My 9 month old wakes every hour, she just wants the comfort. I get my sleep by going to bed as soon as she does. It is hard. But what is even harder is the idea that I am doing a bad job? That my baby should be sleeping through the night as apparently from 6 months onwards they should be.

I also hate the magic sleep fairy. Millie Mackintosh was going on about how babies don’t cry for no reason. And how if they are crying you need to ‘fix’ that. By medicating them and then teaching them not to cry?!?!

My first woke every hour for 2 years. My second slept through from birth. My mum congratulated me on doing it right second time but I did nothing different, I treated both exactly the same. They are different people. If I had paid whatever money to sleep train my first we would have both had a terrible time and if I paid to sleep train my second she might have got a small about being amazing

 

[ellabal]

One of NCT moms I had ‘made friends’ with ferberised her child. Apparently she slept 7-7 and was a dream in all other aspects. She made me feel like I was struggling with everything (which I was) and kept telling me to sleep train. It was only when my husband spoke to her partner that the truth came out. They both had wildly different versions of the sleep situation. People lie.