Jimmy Savile

[Phoenix Lazarus]

I've just got to the bit in the first episode referring to the Lockerbie plane incident. Nicholas Witchell, shown reporting about it on the news, looked about eighteen but now, just thirty-three years on, looks about seventy. You then have Prince Andrew shown commenting at the time that, something like this had to happen at some point but only affects the community in a 'small way'!

 

[Blurp]

It's amazing how much charity work can "shield" a person from accusations. The Savile story and a few other incidents have made me very cynical about people (not just celebrities, but also the regular "pillars of the community") who seem overly keen to promote their charitable endeavors.

I've a friend who is a senior criminal justice social worker, dealing with sex offenders. She says that a very high percentage are 'respectable' and 'pillars of the community', often church office bearers etc.

I was born in the 1960s and found JS tacky and creepy with his string vests, gold everywhere and just general slime. I remember getting told by an adult relative that he was a good man who did incredible amounts of work for charity. I still found him slimey.

 

[Eddie Crane (woof)]

Some of us were sharing stories about Saville, Glitter and a couple of others in the early 2000s in chat rooms, many households and communities openly said for decades what they knew or suspected after hearing local stories of these gruesome bastards.

Its no coincidence Saville had to die for everyone to suddenly listen or care enough to just get a documentary made.

When people defended him before it came out and claimed they knew nothing it was sadly just expected i suppose but how anyone could try to defend this monster post 2012 and Operation Yewtree is beggars belief.

I will never forget Phillip Schofield sat on the sofa in 2012 defending Saville and playing dumb after the initial documentary that got the ball rolling had just aired on the very channel he gets paid ridiculous amounts to present on.

 

[Lizzie Mintdrop]

Some of us were sharing stories about Saville, Glitter and a couple of others in the early 2000s in chat rooms, many households and communities openly said for decades what they knew or suspected after hearing local stories of these gruesome bastards.

Its no coincidence Saville had to die for everyone to suddenly listen or care enough to just get a documentary made.

When people defended him before it came out and claimed they knew nothing it was sadly just expected i suppose but how anyone could try to defend this monster post 2012 and Operation Yewtree is beggars belief.

I will never forget Phillip Schofield sat on the sofa in 2012 defending Saville and playing dumb after the initial documentary that got the ball rolling had just aired on the very channel he gets paid ridiculous amounts to present on.

I recall that too and Holly Willoughby sat there nodding. I was disgusted and I haven't watched it since. He said something along the lines of, don't you think I would have heard the rumours if it were true. Very disingenuous. You can't find footage of that clip anywhere

 

[Eddie Crane (woof)]

I recall that too and Holly Willoughby sat there nodding. I was disgusted and I haven't watched it since. He said something along the lines of, don't you think I would have heard the rumours if it were true. Very disingenuous. You can't find footage of that clip anywhere

It was an extremely low point, i can imagine people going absolutely mental about it and demanding he’s sacked if it happened today, ten years on.

It was massively disingenuous not just because of his reaction to it but This Morning themselves as well as many other shows on the other channels spoke to fellow presenters and colleagues of Phil from the same time who openly repeated in interview after interview that yes they “knew about the rumours with Jimmy but the culture at the BBC didn’t allow for them to call it out or push for change”. So we are supposed to believe they all knew but Phil didn’t, okay.

ITV must of known he got the tone completely wrong because Saville victims were brought on during Eamonn and Ruth’s days after that, in fact if you go searching for Saville related This Morning clips from that time on Youtube you come across plenty with Eamonn and Ruth.

 

[Anasnake]

Did anyone write to him ? I did, I wanted to go on the corkscrew at Alton towers with George Michael. Everyone I know my age wrote to him asking him to fix something

 

[Boredofgrey]

Did anyone write to him ? I did, I wanted to go on the corkscrew at Alton towers with George Michael. Everyone I know my age wrote to him asking him to fix something

I wrote asking to meet Take That - as did a million girls. The girl picked turned the light on in the garage set used for the “could it be magic” video. Thank duck I didn’t win!

 

[Angelic37]

Did anyone write to him ? I did, I wanted to go on the corkscrew at Alton towers with George Michael. Everyone I know my age wrote to him asking him to fix something

I wrote to him, I wanted to go on the Big Dipper at Blackpool Pleasure Beach 3 times I didn't think of having George Michael with me

 

[Phoenix Lazarus]

I really used to like the song they played over the closing credits. It was so feel-good. It's permanently tainted now, though.

 

[Anasnake]

I really used to like the song they played over the closing credits. It was so feel-good. It's permanently tainted now, though.

Still know all the words too

 

[Tui]

Devout catholics dont rape and hurt children

I think they doooo

 

[PeteM]

There's many a priest who's done just that.

 

[rivermonster]

I think they doooo

Priests come to mind.

 

[Eurgh]

Did anyone write to him ? I did, I wanted to go on the corkscrew at Alton towers with George Michael. Everyone I know my age wrote to him asking him to fix something

Oh that would have been amazing. Not the Savile bit obvs.

 

[carefulnow]

I will never forget Phillip Schofield sat on the sofa in 2012 defending Saville and playing dumb after the initial documentary that got the ball rolling had just aired on the very channel he gets paid ridiculous amounts to present on.

I hope the truth about Schofield comes out in his lifetime

 

[Noseyparker68]

My friend was in the spinal unit at Stoke Mandavil and the nurse s said, don't let him take you for a trip in his rolls and don't be alone with him he's into little girls this was 1981

 

[Toothbrush]

I watched the Netflix documentary, and it took me back to my Northern childhood.

I think what we forget now, and younger people don't understand, is that JS didn't seem as shockingly dodgy in the 60s and 70s as he does when we see footage of him today because so many men in their fifties and sixties were quite frightening back then. People were harder, more spiky, more dismissive, more harsh (if you want a cultural example, the mum and brother in Ken Loach's Kes will give you a pretty good idea of what quite a lot of Northern working class folk were like back then). I spent my youth, for example, being terrified of men in donkey jackets because of my experiences of 70s strikers, and I still have a shudder when I see a donkey jacket now.

So JS's manner and demeanour weren't particularly unusual back then. A lot of blokes were like that. It's was only his dress that was a bit strange, but that was put down to eccentricity.

It wasn't until the really inappropriate shorts, string vest and shellsuit top combo around children on JFI in the 80s that the creepyness became very apparent (and it seems only kids really seemed to see it). And the fact that while the most of working-class Britain softened and shed those old harsh habits and attitudes, he didn't.

So by the time you got to the Louis Theroux interview, JS just seems like a psycho. It's so obvious there's something very wrong. But thirty years prior, it wasn't so clearcut.

Yes, he frightened me when I saw him on the TV, but then so did loads of other middle-aged blokes in the 70s: neighbours, other people's dads, my grandfather, the meat-van man (he used to threaten to chop our fingers off with his cleaver). And when you've a culture where it's not unusual for an adult to yell "I'll clip your ear when I catch you, you bloody tyke" or "you say that again and I'll bray you" , JS doesn't seem quite so alarming.

 

[Platinumbarbie]

Yes lots of rumours the marathons were a load of codswallop. I remember seeing a clip of Esther Rantzen breaking her heart over the revelations after his death, I'd say she feels immense guilt.
There is a new documentary coming out on netflix this year.

Esther Rantzen is involved with a lot of paedophiles and cover ups

 

[Libbylulu]

I’ve read that he didn’t actually do all those marathons that in fact he used to start and finish but went AWOL midway through
The arrogance of this man regarding everything is incredible like he knew he was untouchable. I truly wish the truth about him had come out before his death

 

[Platinumbarbie]

There is suggestion that there is a link between those who are subjected to sexual abuse from close family members, and those who then go on to abuse. Both Rose and Fred West were apparently abused by their parents. However I strongly believe a person is born evil. Many people suffer terribly, but do not go on to harm others. I'm wondering if in some families it may be a hereditary sickness of sorts.

Paedophilia is a learned behaviour.Children being in the same room or the same bed with adults having sex and growing up around porn can definitely cause someone to have a warped mind and lead to them becoming paedophiles

Some of us were sharing stories about Saville, Glitter and a couple of others in the early 2000s in chat rooms, many households and communities openly said for decades what they knew or suspected after hearing local stories of these gruesome bastards.

Its no coincidence Saville had to die for everyone to suddenly listen or care enough to just get a documentary made.

When people defended him before it came out and claimed they knew nothing it was sadly just expected i suppose but how anyone could try to defend this monster post 2012 and Operation Yewtree is beggars belief.

I will never forget Phillip Schofield sat on the sofa in 2012 defending Saville and playing dumb after the initial documentary that got the ball rolling had just aired on the very channel he gets paid ridiculous amounts to present on.

I remember Philip Schofield defending him too it literally sickened me and have never liked him since that very day