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Her last Greenbelt talk is still up, if anyone can stomach it https://www.greenbelt.org.uk/talks/i-was-hungry-and-thirsty-were-you-there/

If not, here's Greenbelt's description of it -

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That has to be the most nauseating spaff I have ever read in my entire life. And I was a teenage Goff who wrote "Poetry" FFS.

If Jack wants peace she should maybe start the by repentance for being a liar and a fraud. I'd imagine a tortured conscience could sting like heck.
 
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Sensible Susan

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Fraus mentioning JCC upthread are on the money. That 'poem' is a really shit approximation of Evidently Chickentown, which Jack probably knows from the closing credits of an episode of the Sopranos a million years ago.
Yep, and John fully admits he may have sub-consciously had Hamish Blair's poem in mind when he wrote it. I wonder if Jack would ever admit to such a thing?
 
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Dr.CM

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Was this when she was in her "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" era? Writing cringey middle-aged letters to the local rag about FOULING DOGS and needing more bobbies on the beat instead of iPads in hospitals. Fucking melt.
Unsure, it was a part of her erm... 'poetry' about disaffected youth taking ecstacy and being raided by police horses or some incomprehensible nonsense.

Her writing is the linguistic equivalent of slopping tinned peaches into a sachet of savoury rice.
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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It actually made me feel stupidly anxious seeing how often she referenced it! Partly ‘oh hell, everyone’ll think we’re all like that with this constant publicity’ and wondering if I’d be the same in that position.

But although I’m basically the incarnation of chaos I don’t think ND people are typically deliberately deceitful, and at this stage it seems very disingenuous of her to claim it was all an innocent mistake.

It’s also odd for a hyperfocus to be done so badly! I’m not sure if her recipies started well and then just fell off a cliff, but given what she does after years of practise I’m not keep on sampling the earlier work!

It puzzles me a lot, as you say we’re super aware of our weak points and incessantly apologising for them! It just feels like some other issue is in play for her to never express any remorse…
Could it be that she doesn't care? :unsure:

Yes. It’s also one of a pair that
Do they shovel ❄?
 
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Dr.CM

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Is Scamanda the podcast a true story? I've googled it and thought it was a fictional drama but now you've got me curious.
 
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Cat Face

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I'm interested to hear your personal points of view about what guest would have to do to satisfy you that she is truly sorry so she could seek some sort of redemption.
I almost said all my wants here:

If she was HONEST about her income/lifestyle (no need to disclose anything, just stop the povplay) I geniunely wouldn't give a shit about what she was sinking her money into. (Maybe slightly irritated that she wasn't giving her Patrons owt for their hard-earned, but that's on them too, if they're still subbed after receiving nowt for months.) It's just the performative stuff, the povplay, that gets on my (large and often in the way) tits when her income is CLEARLY nowhere near as low as even a working class income, let alone a pov one.
I know that there would be multiple things that would still annoy me about her, but that's much the same as many people in the public eye.

If she:
* refunded the Sue Lee money to the donators
* stopped pretending she's a pov

... I think I'd be OK with that. As a "sorry".
 
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Copacapybara

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I know this is guest, so normal rules don’t apply but wouldn’t most people be too mortified to show up at an event where they had to release a statement beforehand defending the fact you’re going?!
I kind of like this approach to social events tbh, if everyone’s thoroughly warned I can plow through the snack bar and hurl eggs for trivial disagreements as much as I like because everyone signed up for that willingly in advance.
 
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Sensible Susan

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Her poetry reminds me of a girl at a Summer playscheme who read her own poetry out loud to a small group of fawning hangers on every lunchtime. Being one of the adult supervisors I had to cram the corned beef and tomato sandwich down my gob to stifle the sniggers.
Teenage angst is fine. Bad poetry is often hilarious.

She ain't no John Cooper Clarke.
Soz didn't see this, mentioned JCC further down! Great minds eh :D
 
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