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YES i would feel safe, there is no reason to feel threatened, tell me what could possibly happen? chances are you probably have already used a female toilet which a trans person has used as well and you didn’t even notice, people already judge them a lot for unfortunately being born in the wrong body and now they can’t even use their toilet because their body doesn’t match? (pretending a female born with a male body) that persons mentality is of the gender they truly are so i think the chances of your privacy being destroyed? is very low. Your telling me the safety of a toilet is based on the people who go in there? There are past criminals who have probably used a public toilet same time as you, should we ban all criminals and send them to a different toilet because perhaps they can’t be trusted? No.
Personally the toilet issue isn't what bothers me the most. What bothers me is the right to be seen as the exact same as women, new words like cis female, essentially denoting women to subcategories of their own gender, the insistence that trans women are the exact same as women. They're not. We cant even say that women have periods now as women has become a word that doesn't belong to us women anymore.

In relation to the bathroom issue also, not all trans people experience gender dysphoria. As mentioned here, there are men who fetishise being a woman and they're insisting they be allowed into our private spaces.
 
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YES i would feel safe, there is no reason to feel threatened, tell me what could possibly happen? chances are you probably have already used a female toilet which a trans person has used as well and you didn’t even notice, people already judge them a lot for unfortunately being born in the wrong body and now they can’t even use their toilet because their body doesn’t match? (pretending a female born with a male body) that persons mentality is of the gender they truly are so i think the chances of your privacy being destroyed? is very low. Your telling me the safety of a toilet is based on the people who go in there? There are past criminals who have probably used a public toilet same time as you, should we ban all criminals and send them to a different toilet because perhaps they can’t be trusted? No.
Good for you.

Now try telling that to a victim of grape or sexual assault.
 
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Here’s me thinking that threads on this website are meaningful but then i came across this deluded one... continue crying about news articles sticking up for people’s rights saying they are “arrogant and patronising” When clearly all of you bleeping Jk supporters are just the same with all your “i don’t feel safe in toilets with a trans person” bull.
I don't have any difficulty using the same toilets as trans people. My issue is predatory men and how all women - cis, trans, non binary, whatever label you want to slap on yourself, can be protected!!!

I'm also not a big fan of "We don't agree with so you're a TERF and a transphobe"

Whatever happened to live and let live, agreeing to disagree.

Evelyn Beatrice Hall "i disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it"
 
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That has nothing to do with transgender rights? also that happens regardless of gender and sexuality.
with respect, I think you have missed the point here.

The majority of transgender women retain their male genitalia. So, the point is, people with penises will be using female spaces - not just toilets (which aren’t really the issue) but open changing rooms, women’s only wards in hospitals, women’s prisons, domestic abuse shelters etc. The fact is that there will be vulnerable women, victims of grape and abuse, who will have significant trauma, and should not be forced to share these spaces with people with penises, just because those people feel like women.

It’s a further problem when you realise that most transgender ideology and charities now believe that transgender does not mean you have gender dysphoria or even have to attempt to present as the opposite sex. If you say you are, you are. So a bearded, male-looking person can say he’s a woman and that’s that. Isn’t that troubling?

Then we get to the fact that self ID laws and this idea of “everyone is what they say they are” can be exploited by male predators. It is being exploited already, there are numerous examples of this. This is without getting into the fact that some transwomen (emphasis on some) are predators themselves. Plenty of examples out there.
 
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It’s a further problem when you realise that most transgender ideology and charities now believe that transgender does not mean you have gender dysphoria or even have to attempt to present as the opposite sex. If you say you are, you are. So a bearded, male-looking person can say he’s a woman and that’s that. Isn’t that troubling?
I've just found an article of a Dr in Cardiff who identifies as a woman, hasn't had surgery and has a full beard!!!

If a cis woman had a full beard she would be subject to ridicule!!!

I get my face threaded. Cos of lockdown, I used a hair removal cream - burnt my face 😢😢😢
 
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I've just found an article of a Dr in Cardiff who identifies as a woman, hasn't had surgery and has a full beard!!!

If a cis woman had a full beard she would be subject to ridicule!!!

I get my face threaded. Cos of lockdown, I used a hair removal cream - burnt my face 😢😢😢
Same! I have discovered these little facial razors, can get them online. You need them in your life!

And you’re so right about the fact a bearded woman is subject to ridicule - but when someone born male declares themselves female and retains a beard (and pen and testes) they are “stunning” and “brave”. It’s almost like they’re retaining their male privilege :unsure:
 
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I was taught from a young age how to protect myself, how to keep my wits about me, etc. I'm not saying that everyone is automatically a predator but there are dodgy characters out there and we should try to protect ourselves as much as we can. Now we've come full circle and we're expected to just automatically get rid of any instincts and instantly trust that everyone is who they say they are? As I said before, there are probably plenty of trans people who understand our concerns but there is a sinister element to others based on what I've seen. Women are not physically as strong so we've been taught to trust our instincts and now the woke SJWs are telling us to drop that.
 
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It’s the way some Transwomen shout down and verbally abuse anybody with a difference of opinion that scares me.
 
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It’s the way some Transwomen shout down and verbally abuse anybody with a difference of opinion that scares me.
This is such a big problem on the left overall. There’s no nuance allowed anymore. Either you agree on everything, or you’re a fascist, a Nazi who deserves to be verbally and physically abused. Terrifying.

Back to JK Rowling, has anyone seen the guy on Twitter who took a quote from her essay and attributed it to Robert Galbraith, and transactivists liked it? Kind of proves that they didn’t read the essay in the first place! I see a lot of this, encouraging each other not to read things they might disagree with. Ridiculous - engaging with both sides is how you learn what you actually believe and agree with, and it’s also the best tool to refine and polish your own arguments!
 
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It’s the way some Transwomen shout down and verbally abuse anybody with a difference of opinion that scares me.
Yes. And the woke crowd so desperate to score brownie points want us women to quash our instincts. I'm not being dramatic when I say its instincts that can save a woman
 
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This is such a big problem on the left overall. There’s no nuance allowed anymore. Either you agree on everything, or you’re a fascist, a Nazi who deserves to be verbally and physically abused. Terrifying.

Back to JK Rowling, has anyone seen the guy on Twitter who took a quote from her essay and attributed it to Robert Galbraith, and transactivists liked it? Kind of proves that they didn’t read the essay in the first place! I see a lot of this, encouraging each other not to read things they might disagree with. Ridiculous - engaging with both sides is how you learn what you actually believe and agree with, and it’s also the best tool to refine and polish your own arguments!
I agree, it’s very difficult to have a healthy debate anymore.
 
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That has nothing to do with transgender rights? also that happens regardless of gender and sexuality.
It would have prevented Katie Dolatowski being in the ladies toilets in the Morrisons in Kirkcaldy when, on two separate occasions, Katie filmed a 12-year-old girl over the cubicle wall and sexually assaulted a 10one-year-old girl while her father waited for her outside. Katie was convicted of voyeurism and sexual assault.
 
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This is such a big problem on the left overall. There’s no nuance allowed anymore. Either you agree on everything, or you’re a fascist, a Nazi who deserves to be verbally and physically abused. Terrifying.

Back to JK Rowling, has anyone seen the guy on Twitter who took a quote from her essay and attributed it to Robert Galbraith, and transactivists liked it? Kind of proves that they didn’t read the essay in the first place! I see a lot of this, encouraging each other not to read things they might disagree with. Ridiculous - engaging with both sides is how you learn what you actually believe and agree with, and it’s also the best tool to refine and polish your own arguments!
Many TRAs tweeted actively encouraging people not to read it
 
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It would have prevented Katie Dolatowski being in the ladies toilets in the Morrisons in Kirkcaldy when, on two separate occasions, Katie filmed a 12-year-old girl over the cubicle wall and sexually assaulted a 10one-year-old girl while her father waited for her outside. Katie was convicted of voyeurism and sexual assault.
I read about that case. Truly shocking. Did they not get placed in a woman’s hostel after being convicted too? This is why women and girls need to keep their safe spaces, to protect them from monsters like that.
 
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It's also things like going into a gynae exam or any medical where we can ask for a female doctor. If that female doctor comes in with a full beard, we cant say anything to object. Or turning up to report a grape, and a male bodied police officer comes in. Or going into a grape crisis centre and having to share a space with a male bodied person. Or being a teenage girl having to change in front of a naked girl who happens to have a pen and balls. Or going on scouts camp and sharing a tent with a 14 year old girl with a pen and balls. Or never ever having a chance to win a gold medal in your chosen sport because a person whose physical body has been enhanced by huge amounts of testosterone has decided they want to compete against you.Or for example an adult who has been a woman for about a year getting the job of women's officer in the Labour Party over women who have been women their whole lives.
 
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YES i would feel safe, there is no reason to feel threatened, tell me what could possibly happen? chances are you probably have already used a female toilet which a trans person has used as well and you didn’t even notice, people already judge them a lot for unfortunately being born in the wrong body and now they can’t even use their toilet because their body doesn’t match? (pretending a female born with a male body) that persons mentality is of the gender they truly are so i think the chances of your privacy being destroyed? is very low. Your telling me the safety of a toilet is based on the people who go in there? There are past criminals who have probably used a public toilet same time as you, should we ban all criminals and send them to a different toilet because perhaps they can’t be trusted? No.
Do you know why we have male and female toilets in the first place?

Not only that but it’s not just about toilets. It’s about changing rooms, hospital wards, women’s refuges, women’s prisons, the right to request a female (actually female) healthcare practitioner, female only gym classes, women’s competitive sports, all women’s short lists, I could go on and on. The toilet issue really just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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Was in hospital recently. There was a trans nurse (not very convincing I have to say).
Anyhow this really puts professionals and patients in a difficult situation.
If trans women are women does that mean I can be examined and treated by a trans woman and no chaperone?
If it is policy to have a chaperone would this peak a trans woman and would they say the hospital is transphobic?
 
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