This is an interesting topic I wouldn't dare bring up with people because I'd be "transphobic". I think the tone of some of her tweets were a bit mocking, but she never said anything inherently wrong, what I got from it was that natural born? women have a different life experience and history of continued oppression then any other group. They go through different experiences, traumas that Trans women will never completely understand because a)they at first grew up as male in society's eyes and b)they are put in a different category by society all together and that's fact. I'm all for people doing what makes them comfortable but never discuss this with people because you're automatically ostracized if you don't submit to the majority. I'm a woman and I'm not sure if my boyfriend is hairier then me btw
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So I just went down a bit of a rabbit hole. I saw the huge amount of support for Daniel Radcliffe on the TwoXChromosomes subreddit and was so disheartened. I went to the comments and someone was bringing up many of the points we're making here and she asked for people to rebuff them. Top comment was a link to this video:
I genuinely tried to watch it, I am open to hearing people say their piece but straight from the start "she" was sarcastic, passive aggressive and doing OTT impressions of these awful, hysterical women questioning trans ideology. I couldn't make it past 7 mins and even that was hard.
I do hope that there's just these clusters of trans ideologists that exist online and most of the real world live in reality. It's reassuring to hear people in this thread as I feel like Tattle is largely apolitical unlike Twitter and even Reddit.
(If anyone else wants to use their time to watch the video and can actually get through it, please let me know if any logical arguments are actually raised or if the whole thing is just nasty, snotty jokes and costumes.)
I genuinely tried to watch it, I am open to hearing people say their piece but straight from the start "she" was sarcastic, passive aggressive and doing OTT impressions of these awful, hysterical women questioning trans ideology. I couldn't make it past 7 mins and even that was hard.
I do hope that there's just these clusters of trans ideologists that exist online and most of the real world live in reality. It's reassuring to hear people in this thread as I feel like Tattle is largely apolitical unlike Twitter and even Reddit.
(If anyone else wants to use their time to watch the video and can actually get through it, please let me know if any logical arguments are actually raised or if the whole thing is just nasty, snotty jokes and costumes.)
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apolitical?
Ok I might be wrong as I don't frequent an awful lot of threads on here, but I meant that there doesn't seem to be as much of a 'one-minded cult of wokeness' like on Twitter.
I'm definitely with you. Are there any feminist groups that you can join these days that have not been coerced by militant trans?
The only place I've found so far is r/gendercritical. Even other subreddits such as r/actuallylesbian, have been invaded by trans
r/gendercritcal has lots of links on the right side of their page including gender critical organisations and resources
Yes there are. I was part of a few of them, it's underground.
I lost faith for a while because it's so disheartening and awful. Some were on Facebook,close groups.
I'll have a look for you and post the group's.
Linda Bellos is a bit of a legend and worth following and Google her and WPUK and look at their demands.
Someone made a good point. Twitter and such can be incredibly disheartening BUT it is the demographic of that platform and not necessarily the general feeling.
Unisex toilets are grim but ok IF it's because there are few toilets and not to appease trans and men
I was in Kings cross toilets last year and a bloke ironically working for the Harry potter shop (couldn't make it up
) came out of one of the ladies cubical.
6ft foot, 5 o'clock shadow but in a skirt. Heavy set and basically a bloke
I wanted to tell him to duck off. I'm a grown woman but imagine being a little girl.
If I'd said anything I'd be transphobic.
At times like this a hate men....it's such a terrible feeling.
And then you get trans saying you're transphobic if you don't want their nob.
Rant over...
I lost faith for a while because it's so disheartening and awful. Some were on Facebook,close groups.
I'll have a look for you and post the group's.
Linda Bellos is a bit of a legend and worth following and Google her and WPUK and look at their demands.
Someone made a good point. Twitter and such can be incredibly disheartening BUT it is the demographic of that platform and not necessarily the general feeling.
Unisex toilets are grim but ok IF it's because there are few toilets and not to appease trans and men
I was in Kings cross toilets last year and a bloke ironically working for the Harry potter shop (couldn't make it up
) came out of one of the ladies cubical. 6ft foot, 5 o'clock shadow but in a skirt. Heavy set and basically a bloke
I wanted to tell him to duck off. I'm a grown woman but imagine being a little girl.
If I'd said anything I'd be transphobic.
At times like this a hate men....it's such a terrible feeling.
And then you get trans saying you're transphobic if you don't want their nob.
Rant over...
Fair play to her. I hope she's dealing with the backlash ok.
Isn't it funny how the whole debate is always centred on "transwomen are women"? Stinks of misogyny.
Isn't it funny how the whole debate is always centred on "transwomen are women"? Stinks of misogyny.
Anyone bothered to YouTube Riley Dennis?
He's an advocate of the 'i am a beautiful lesbian but have a fool' brigade.
He is especially nasty
He's an advocate of the 'i am a beautiful lesbian but have a fool' brigade.
He is especially nasty
I don't want to make any comment on anyone's appearance but dayum that face tho
"Your dating preferences are discriminatory.'' Hmmmmm...
I know a hell of a lot of men who wouldn't want to date someone like Riley with a big ole Adam's apple and a moustache, but yet again when do you hear about men being given a hard time for not wanting to get with trans people (not that they should)? It is literally always women/lesbians who are given a hard time for not wanting to be with trans people.
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Men will not care about this issue until it is them alone with a woman in a room about to have sex and “she” pulls out “her” pen and expects him to play with it. And even then, there’s no danger to the man if he refuses. He can say no without much worry that he’s going to be beaten up, or forced into accepting the pen. He hasn’t been trained his entire life to be polite and put everyone else first like women do so he won’t be coerced into accepting the pen out of guilt or awkwardness or fear of what will happen if he says no. If he tells anyone after the fact, he won’t be called transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a pen. People will side with him. His career won’t be at risk if the owner of the pen tells people.
Now, if a woman says no to that pen person while she’s alone with him? Just imagine.
It’s all so bonkers.
*disclaimer: and that’s without opening the can of worms that is neovaginas
Now, if a woman says no to that pen person while she’s alone with him? Just imagine.
Exactly. Lesbians are being erased by the trans agenda and it’s terrifying. These mtf don’t seem to realise it’s not just about the pen either. “Oh I’ll have surgery and then they can’t refuse!”* They miss the point that they have a lifetime of male socialisation that affects every aspect of who they are as a person. The irony being that it’s that male socialisation that gives them the confidence to take away women’s rights, ie the rights of the women they want to have sex with.
It’s all so bonkers.
*disclaimer: and that’s without opening the can of worms that is neovaginas
heard it before and it's ducked up. It's like being called racist if you're not attracted to a certain race, maybe you'll never be or maybe you just haven't found someone you were attracted to. Also yeah you almost never hear about FtM being men debates wtf.
I'm straight but I've been looked at funny for saying I'm not into Trans men
I was going to say could we go down the rabbit hole about neovaginas but thought that might be distasteful 
There is a bit of a culture with men/trans women having designer vaginas... basically man's vision of what he deems a tina should look like.
Just duck off we come in all shapes and sizes, bits here bits there, hair here, hair there.
In my old place of work the one where men dressed up as women badly. A few of us thought it was distasteful. Two of my male friends found it ridiculous but also worried about saying the wrong thing
We even had one dude 'come out' as Hannah or something and emailing everyone about his decision to become a woman.....duck off mate this is mocking my experience and reality
There is a bit of a culture with men/trans women having designer vaginas... basically man's vision of what he deems a tina should look like.
Just duck off we come in all shapes and sizes, bits here bits there, hair here, hair there.
In my old place of work the one where men dressed up as women badly. A few of us thought it was distasteful. Two of my male friends found it ridiculous but also worried about saying the wrong thing
We even had one dude 'come out' as Hannah or something and emailing everyone about his decision to become a woman.....duck off mate this is mocking my experience and reality
Owen Jones blocked anyone who asked him whether he would bag a trans man when he was talking about lesbians not wanting to sleep with trans women being trans phobic. Why is it ok for lesbians to be forced to have sex with a trans woman but not for him to have sex with a trans man? Are gay men proper gay but lesbians just faking? I'm straight but lesbians being erased is one of the many sinister aspects of the trans agenda. It is clear that far from wanting to be women, they hate women and think they can do being a woman better.
Why is Daniel Radcliffe apologising on her behalf as if she’s just some crazy old lady who doesn’t know what she’s saying. How patronising.
This is worrying. Men thinking they can create and become "new and improved" women with big perky boobs and designer vaginas, whatever the hell they are.I was going to say could we go down the rabbit hole about neovaginas but thought that might be distasteful
There is a bit of a culture with men/trans women having designer vaginas... basically man's vision of what he deems a tina should look like.
Just duck off we come in all shapes and sizes, bits here bits there, hair here, hair there.
In my old place of work the one where men dressed up as women badly. A few of us thought it was distasteful. Two of my male friends found it ridiculous but also worried about saying the wrong thing
We even had one dude 'come out' as Hannah or something and emailing everyone about his decision to become a woman.....duck off mate this is mocking my experience and reality
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....ys-finally-feels-like-real-woman-9561298/amp/
Ladies this is apparently what makes you feel and be a woman.
Ladies this is apparently what makes you feel and be a woman.
WAT
I would say you don’t want to know, but everyone needs to! When they make the neovagina, they make a skin canal inside the man using skin from their pubic area and pen. Some surgeons recommend laser hair removal first. Some don’t. These men end up with what is basically an open wound they have to dilate (insert dildo shaped things daily into it to help it keep its shape) with hair growing inside it. They get a build up of bacteria and hair and sweat. Doctors have described a “foul smell” that comes from them. Men have had hair balls and balls of god knows what filth fall out of these canals. Some of the men regularly bleed from the open wounds and wear sanitary towels claiming it’s their period.
And then there’s the neovaginas made with the parts of the colon and the side effects related to that. Bacteria, mucous, etc.
The external part of the neovagina can vary depending on who they use as a surgeon. Some of these men end up absolutely butchered. Non existent labia with a lump above it meant to be the “clitoris”. Labia that is clearly ballsack without the ball. Infections and pus. A lot of pain. And they aren’t allowed to talk about it because the trans agenda shuts them down. Reddit used to have a subreddit where they’d share images and links of these people who’d been brainwashed into thinking they’d have a genuine tina post-surgery when they’d actually end up with an open wound and lots of pain.
Anyone who shares the negative stories are drowned out by the people who claim its lies or its normal or the person just had a bad surgeon. They prefer to talk about how theirs convinces everyone “even cis lesbians cant tell!” “Even my new gynae didn’t realise!”. They ignore the fact that those lesbians and doctors have to play along with their delusions or face being called transphobic.
Honestly the whole trans brainwashing is an absolute rabbit hole when you look into it. It’s crazy and I think it slightly fascinates me as to the extent everyone seems to be taking part in a mass brainwashing event.
That is beyond vile and insulting.
Wow. I mean I knew they made fake vaginas but I hadn't heard the term neovaginas before and I certainly never looked into it in this kind of detail
I would say you don’t want to know, but everyone needs to! When they make the neovagina, they make a skin canal inside the man using skin from their pubic area and pen. Some surgeons recommend laser hair removal first. Some don’t. These men end up with what is basically an open wound they have to dilate (insert dildo shaped things daily into it to help it keep its shape) with hair growing inside it. They get a build up of bacteria and hair and sweat. Doctors have described a “foul smell” that comes from them. Men have had hair balls and balls of god knows what filth fall out of these canals. Some of the men regularly bleed from the open wounds and wear sanitary towels claiming it’s their period.
And then there’s the neovaginas made with the parts of the colon and the side effects related to that. Bacteria, mucous, etc.
The external part of the neovagina can vary depending on who they use as a surgeon. Some of these men end up absolutely butchered. Non existent labia with a lump above it meant to be the “clitoris”. Labia that is clearly ballsack without the ball. Infections and pus. A lot of pain. And they aren’t allowed to talk about it because the trans agenda shuts them down. Reddit used to have a subreddit where they’d share images and links of these people who’d been brainwashed into thinking they’d have a genuine tina post-surgery when they’d actually end up with an open wound and lots of pain.
Anyone who shares the negative stories are drowned out by the people who claim its lies or its normal or the person just had a bad surgeon. They prefer to talk about how theirs convinces everyone “even cis lesbians cant tell!” “Even my new gynae didn’t realise!”. They ignore the fact that those lesbians and doctors have to play along with their delusions or face being called transphobic.
Honestly the whole trans brainwashing is an absolute rabbit hole when you look into it. It’s crazy and I think it slightly fascinates me as to the extent everyone seems to be taking part in a mass brainwashing event.
I mean, to want to mutilate your own body to this level, how can that ever, ever be considered normal? It's deranged, sorry. And I do feel sorry for the men brainwashed into doing this, it sounds absolutely awful.
I might be wrong to draw this parallel, but you have white people putting their hair in braids who get slaughtered for it, but men who get fake vaginas are the the next bleeping messiah? I'm not pro cultural appropriation or anything like that, but I just can't help drawing similarities between race and sex.
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