J. K. Rowling

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and the ones who say that, personally make it harder to see them as women. They don't understand the aggressive manly language they're using, these are the kinds of things that have been shouted at women on the street, the kind of thing aggressive men send you when you reject them online. The ones that react like that make you think they're part of the group that does it because it's trendy, you can't say you're actually a woman then act like a man does. I think that's what JKR was evoking if I'm not mistaken.
Some of them used to be mens rights activists who think women have it better in life because of equality legislation etc. They then become trams women but their hatred of natal women still remains. The trans community needs to stand up to male violence instead of concentrating all their ire on 'terfs' who are just women who want to have spaces away from men and away from persons with penises. Trans activists when they say trans people are at risk of being murdered dont say by whom. They blame male violence on women. They dont distance themselves from the violent aggressive language of other trans activists and when trans do people speak out against violent and aggressive language they are shut down by trans activists.
 
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That is simply not true.

In the U.K., there are more transwomen murderers than murder victims.

In the USA, trans people have a far lower than average risk of suffering murder or violence.

The claims that transwomen are at risk of violence come from statistics on black transwomen prostitutes. It’s because they are black prostitutes, nothing to do with trans status. They are still not at unusually high risk compared to other prostitutes or black people.

The dishonest claims of hate, fear and victimhood serve three purposes: to pressurise the public and authorities to give trans people a protected group status; to evoke sympathy and counter the public’s valid fears of strange men; and to play-act as the role of being dainty, frightened girls, which strokes their ego.
Well I totally disagree with you. I have no reason to disbelieve my black trans woman friend of over 10 years who i spoke with two days ago after a rally she attended. She has lived in NY for 29 years and feels exactly this. She is in a far superior position than you or I to tell me what is really happening within the trans community on the ground in NY and the US with regards to trans rights, abuse, assault and murder vs what is actually reported by the MSM. You’re entitled to your opinion but ill take my research and inside on the issues. Thanks
 
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Well I totally disagree with you. I have no reason to disbelieve my black trans woman friend of over 10 years who i spoke with two days ago after a rally she attended. She has lived in NY for 29 years and feels exactly this. She is in a far superior position than you or I to tell me what is really happening within the trans community on the ground in NY and the US with regards to trans rights, abuse, assault and murder vs what is actually reported by the MSM. You’re entitled to your opinion but ill take my research and inside on the issues. Thanks
please do go have a look- you will really struggle to prove your point.
In the UK there have been so few murders of trans people over the past 10 years (I think it is around 1 person) that it is impossible to say they are at a higher risk.

Here is the evidence:

Like the pp above said and like the channel four fact check said they are more likely to be the murderer.

Of the population in prison though, compared to rest of the male population there is a significantly higher percentage of sex offenders amongst the trans population.
 
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please do go have a look- you will really struggle to prove your point.
In the UK there have been so few murders of trans people over the past 10 years (I think it is around 1 person) that it is impossible to say they are at a higher risk.

Here is the evidence:

Like the pp above said and like the channel four fact check said they are more likely to be the murderer.

Of the population in prison though, compared to rest of the male population there is a significantly higher percentage of sex offenders amongst the trans population.
would this be trans men or women
 
The general statistics about not being likely to be murdered is about both, but the bit at the end about sex offenders is about trans women.
that would speak to a male pattern of behaviour from socialization? males in general are more likely to do that right?
 
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that would speak to a male pattern of behaviour from socialization? males in general are more likely to do that right?
Absolutely, as mentioned in JKR's essay (I think) males are shown to retain male pattern violence/criminality compared to female criminality even after transition.
 
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please do go have a look- you will really struggle to prove your point.
In the UK there have been so few murders of trans people over the past 10 years (I think it is around 1 person) that it is impossible to say they are at a higher risk.

Here is the evidence:

Like the pp above said and like the channel four fact check said they are more likely to be the murderer.

Of the population in prison though, compared to rest of the male population there is a significantly higher percentage of sex offenders amongst the trans population.
Again this is a chanel 4 fact check. A mainstream media report which is also based on the UK only. I stand firm on my views from my friend a black trans woman actively involved and a part of the trans community for many many years and is living and knowing about the grave under reporting and cover up of these hate crimes, assaults attacks and deaths
 
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I’m always wary of stats posted by MSM. Worked in research for years and know how much numbers get tweaked to fit the narrative. Best example I’ve seen is via a friend who worked with some Brexit research- MSM were recalculating to remove an answer choice but not updating the base size or weighting the data accordingly. These figures were being reported in the news.
 
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Who would be covering up crime stats and why, do you think? I know we have a good degree of accountability with FOIA so it would be a pretty high reaching conspiracy for any combination of agencies to fix the figures - and I can’t understand why they would need to? The numbers wouldn’t be high enough to be an international scandal surely - we can’t be talking about thousands of murders being hidden can we!
 
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I’m not saying here or there if this is happening in this case, but I’ve seen it happen in plenty or other social and political situations. If TPTB want to push a particular political or social agenda crime stats are probably one of the more simple things to inflate or under report. Why they’d do it is anyone’s guess, probably money related- be it pharmaceutical companies, weapons companies. Obviously in the case of the brexit one it was to convince people that more people wanted brexit.
 
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Well I totally disagree with you. I have no reason to disbelieve my black trans woman friend of over 10 years who i spoke with two days ago after a rally she attended. She has lived in NY for 29 years and feels exactly this. She is in a far superior position than you or I to tell me what is really happening within the trans community on the ground in NY and the US with regards to trans rights, abuse, assault and murder vs what is actually reported by the MSM. You’re entitled to your opinion but ill take my research and inside on the issues. Thanks
If you’d actually read my post, you’d have no reason to disagree with me.

As I said, the statistics that the entire trans community base their victimhood on, are statistics specifically on black transwomen. They do indeed face high levels of violence. But it is not because they are transgender. This is proven by the fact that black transwomen have lower murder rates than black men, ie the act of transitioning statistically affords them some protection.
 
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If you’d actually read my post, you’d have no reason to disagree with me.

As I said, the statistics that the entire trans community base their victimhood on, are statistics specifically on black transwomen. They do indeed face high levels of violence. But it is not because they are transgender. This is proven by the fact that black transwomen have lower murder rates than black men, ie the act of transitioning statistically affords them some protection.
I did read your post and i still disagree you. I did not define my information as being only specific to the black trans women demographic my girlfriend is in, you assumed that. She has not siloed herself to only speak or care or inform me only about her specific demographics rights. She is actively involved, lives and is a big part of the trans community as a whole - men, women black white.
 
There is quite a divide in the gay community about trans people. The thing I object to is that under current law any man can say that he identifies as a woman, and demand to be allowed in women only spaces. How can that be right?
That’s fundamentally not true. The GRA process is incredibly time intensive. You can’t just “apply” to be a woman. Also if a man wants to assault or harass women, pretty sure he’ll go ahead and do that without the rigmarole of gender reassignment?
 
Something else has been bugging me lately too - I’d welcome others’ thoughts.

I’ve watched most seasons of Drag Race and laughed along, but there’s something that sits uncomfortably with me. Men taking the ‘glamour’ of being a woman and caricaturing - often incredibly stereotypically. They make serious money off it while all the tough bits of being female are ignored (periods/pregancy etc)...
i think it’s been acknowledged for a number of years some of the undercurrents of misogyny (see: “fish” as being a compliment of being womanly) and indeed racism of RPDR. But also RPDR is well known for excluding trans women from participating. I definitely think there’s a huge problem with in particular some white gay men and misogyny; but it’s fair to say that misogyny tends to exclude trans women also.
 
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That’s fundamentally not true. The GRA process is incredibly time intensive. You can’t just “apply” to be a woman. Also if a man wants to assault or harass women, pretty sure he’ll go ahead and do that without the rigmarole of gender reassignment?
You can in some places. For instance, here in Australia this law passed last year: https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...y/news-story/7deb9ac5e502c3645907515a465fcfeb

Far less ‘rigmarole’ than was once required.
 
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You can in some places. For instance, here in Australia this law passed last year: https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...y/news-story/7deb9ac5e502c3645907515a465fcfeb

Far less ‘rigmarole’ than was once required.
I may be wrong but isn’t the whole JKR thing partly because Scotland (where she lives) are bringing about changes which will allow trans people to self declare? No medical evidence required. It just seems insane. It will skew all sorts of data from medical to violent crimes.
 
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The trans sense of entitlement really reminds me of er...male entitlement actually. Entitled to women’s spaces and women’s bodies.

duck off with that tit.
Sorry to quote from a post a couple weeks old but can I just say YES TO THIS 🙌🏻👏🏻

This is the perfect way of looking at this. I’ve rarely seen FtM trans freaking out in the same way as MtF.

It is male entitlement. Male privilege. Male intimidation.

And that can go duck itself.
 
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I may be wrong but isn’t the whole JKR thing partly because Scotland (where she lives) are bringing about changes which will allow trans people to self declare? No medical evidence required. It just seems insane. It will skew all sorts of data from medical to violent crimes.
Yes that's right - women instances of certain crimes will rise because male people will be recorded as female. Actually, in the UK and Scotland, this is happening already - and so the skewing of statistics is already happening. Police record given gender instead of sex. Women will look like they are becoming more violent and more prone to sexually abusing others when it simply isn't true.

Its shocking.
 
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Great article from the Spectator
 
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