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Germaine Greer said something along the lines of a man my identify as a woman, may have medical preceedures but can never truly be a woman which is a lot more blunt than anything JKR said but didn't get the same flack. I believe JKR thinks she's defending womanhood and to a degree I can understand what she means, there is a fundamental difference between being born a woman or a man and identifying as another gender and with an ever growing list of gender identities things are getting a little foggy to say the least for most people.

Bottom line is she has her opinion as do we all and should be free to express them and remember education on a subject does not always mean acceptance of that subject.
 
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Wow is that the Fallon Fox? The male to female transgender person who now beats women up in MMA?

What a disgusting thing to say. I hope they get banned from their MMA league.

I have to say I worry about my daughter too - she likes BMX and skating and baggy clothes. The way the world is geared to men I am ever fearful that someone will say 'well you might be a boy' and send her down an internet wormhole.

Its not that I dislike/fear/hate transpeople, it that I am deeply deeply suspicious that the 5000% increase in young females being referred to gender clinics are actually young lesbians who hate their bodies like lots of other girls, and that they are convinced life would be easier as a boy. I think in 10 years time we will have a tsunami of detrans girls who are infertile, have irreversible voice damage, baldness, mastectomies and facial hair. You already see how detrans girls are treated by the community.

JKR said this and was crucified.
 
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That really is a vile thing to do. JK is praising a childs drawing and this person thinks it's OK to do that? Aggressive posts like that do not help the cause at all.
The thing is Fallon Fox isn’t just some random on the internet who no one knows. This is someone in the public eye by virtue of being a UFC fighter, bragging about enjoying fracturing someone’s skull. It’s disgusting behaviour. Such blatant violence against women at the hands of a male on display for all to see. Fallon Fox should never have been allowed to set foot in a ring against a female in the first place.
 
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Wow is that the Fallon Fox? The male to female transgender person who now beats women up in MMA?

What a disgusting thing to say. I hope they get banned from their MMA league.

I have to say I worry about my daughter too - she likes BMX and skating and baggy clothes. The way the world is geared to men I am ever fearful that someone will say 'well you might be a boy' and send her down an internet wormhole.

Its not that I dislike/fear/hate transpeople, it that I am deeply deeply suspicious that the 5000% increase in young females being referred to gender clinics are actually young lesbians who hate their bodies like lots of other girls, and that they are convinced life would be easier as a boy. I think in 10 years time we will have a tsunami of detrans girls who are infertile, have irreversible voice damage, baldness, mastectomies and facial hair. You already see how detrans girls are treated by the community.

JKR said this and was crucified.
just always remember to tell your little girl it's ok to like non-girly things - doesn't mean she's trans
 
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This is what I take the issue with. I think the whole thing actually stinks of misogyny and trans activists appear to absolutely hate biological/Cis women.

Thanks for reducing us to a bodily function, The Body Shop. Shall we just call all people with a pen “Ejaculators”?

Fs. Stop the world, I want to get off... 🙄
 
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Germaine Greer said something along the lines of a man my identify as a woman, may have medical preceedures but can never truly be a woman which is a lot more blunt than anything JKR said but didn't get the same flack. I believe JKR thinks she's defending womanhood and to a degree I can understand what she means, there is a fundamental difference between being born a woman or a man and identifying as another gender and with an ever growing list of gender identities things are getting a little foggy to say the least for most people.

Bottom line is she has her opinion as do we all and should be free to express them and remember education on a subject does not always mean acceptance of that subject.
Germaine Greer has had a lot of grief thrown at her over the years but she has kept relatively quiet recently, probably due to her age (81) and the fact that she has already stated her opinions on numerous occasions.
She's too smart to spend her life arguing pointlessly on social media with people like that Fallon Fox.
 
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Can I ask why you wouldn’t?

And I don’t think calling them odd is... fair or warranted. Just because you don’t understand they’re not bizarre or odd.

Also if you mean NikkieTutorials... she’s not a man. She’s a transwoman. She’s not influencing any male domination of the beauty industry.

Sorry I just find it odd. That’s just my opinion but as a parent I would do my best to support them in some way shape and form.

Yes, she’s a trans woman. I get that but she was still born a man. The entire community is Male dominated or full of trans women. There isn’t a woman born in a woman’s body who’s making that money. Again, it’s controlled by men. As usual.

This is what I take the issue with. I think the whole thing actually stinks of misogyny and trans activists appear to absolutely hate biological/Cis women.
They do.

Also, has anyone else noticed that the community is always all for men? It’s always trans women or gay men.

Trans men or lesbians are always shrugged off and treated like tit.

Remember the movie Boys Don’t Cry? And while I do things transgender people are bizarre. I just do. But I don’t wish grape or murder on them at all. Not at all.
 
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Jameela Jamil has put her head above the parapet again to say that she's more than happy with all the rapists and creeps self IDing. FFS.

A lot of people won't have heard of Fallon Fox before now. I'm hoping this gets picked up by the papers as people's eyes will well and truly be opened.

One thing that always confuses me is how many TRAs are staunchly pro sex work even though thats the root cause of most black trans womens murders. Surely if you care about preventing murder of TW in these circumstances you'd advocate for the nordic model or similar rather than the sex work is work mantra.
 
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Wow is that the Fallon Fox? The male to female transgender person who now beats women up in MMA?

What a disgusting thing to say. I hope they get banned from their MMA league.

I have to say I worry about my daughter too - she likes BMX and skating and baggy clothes. The way the world is geared to men I am ever fearful that someone will say 'well you might be a boy' and send her down an internet wormhole.

Its not that I dislike/fear/hate transpeople, it that I am deeply deeply suspicious that the 5000% increase in young females being referred to gender clinics are actually young lesbians who hate their bodies like lots of other girls, and that they are convinced life would be easier as a boy. I think in 10 years time we will have a tsunami of detrans girls who are infertile, have irreversible voice damage, baldness, mastectomies and facial hair. You already see how detrans girls are treated by the community.

JKR said this and was crucified.
THIS.

This is what I was saying above.

Because you have sites like Reddit, Youtube making trans or anything that was Once taboo now popular. Tumblr is awful for it.

The teenagers now are all for questioning gender and whatnot. You’ve got people who are 12-19 thinking there’s more than two genders. And they attack you if you question them and brand your as a “boomer” and all that rubbish.

Now I’m 26 myself. When I was younger MySpace was a thing and bebo. The emo trend was a thing and everyone back then was branding themselves as bisexual. This was still when trying to get gays and lesbians accepted was a thing and it was starting to slowly come into normality.

Now it’s trans people who are coming forth.

And all the teens now, mostly the ones into anime, comics. Video games from Japan. They’re in fandoms which exploit gay relationships with characters. A lot of young girls are then wanting to look like the characters and most of them are gay. So they’re then thinking they’re boys.

But come mid twenties I can guarantee you they’ll have grown out of it. It’ll be a phase. And it’s worrying because if they’re getting treatment to stop their bodies growing

They’ll be complaining in years to come about how they want to go back to being girls. Same with the boys.

That’s what I mean about it being a trend.

However there are genuine trans people out there. And they just want to transition without the balls and live their lives.

Sorry but saying it’s odd and bizarre is just rude. That’s my opinion. And you can’t really support them if you’re ‘not on board’ with it. You can have concerns but not being on board implies you are not okay with it. And actually having a transgender child is much different than I think a lot of people think it is.

She was born in a man’s body but she isn’t a man.

And since when was the beauty industry a gendered industry anyway? I don’t agree that it’s male dominated but any gender can work in the industry. 🤷🏼‍♀️
Sorry but that’s just what I think. I knew I’d get criticism for saying what I say but it’s just one of them things. Not everyone is on board with it but there isn’t anything anyone can do because it’s a growing community.

Trans people are given the wrong mind for the wrong body. That’s basically it. But it is odd because they’re misplaced. If anything it’s a birth defect.

And I’m aware it’s different when you’ve got a child.

True but sometimes it’s nice to see a woman do well for herself. When it’s all men it’s disheartening. Sorry but I want to see women do make up. I’m not interested in seeing men do it. And people like Jeffree Star who are racist pieces of tit or nasty people like James Charles. It’s mostly men who have made their money out of it, nowadays. I’m talking about the present.

It’s a different world now and I get it. But I’m gonna be honest, I think it’ll always be considered odd for men to start wearing dresses and make up. Not talking about trans women here - I’m on about men who identify as men. Everyone’s on board with it now in the new age era. I’m personally not. Sorry not sorry.
 
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Something else has been bugging me lately too - I’d welcome others’ thoughts.

I’ve watched most seasons of Drag Race and laughed along, but there’s something that sits uncomfortably with me. Men taking the ‘glamour’ of being a woman and caricaturing - often incredibly stereotypically. They make serious money off it while all the tough bits of being female are ignored (periods/pregancy etc)...
 
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Something else has been bugging me lately too - I’d welcome others’ thoughts.

I’ve watched most seasons of Drag Race and laughed along, but there’s something that sits uncomfortably with me. Men taking the ‘glamour’ of being a woman and caricaturing - often incredibly stereotypically. They make serious money off it while all the tough bits of being female are ignored (periods/pregancy etc)...
Haven't watched Drag Race but yeah I feel that drag makes fun of women in a grotesque way sometimes
 
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Yup agree. i wasn’t excluding non trans women from this constant fear also just that trans women as a minority are at a higher, very high, risk of hateful violent crime and murder as they are seen as “freaks” or “oddities” and are targeted specifically.
That is simply not true.

In the U.K., there are more transwomen murderers than murder victims.

In the USA, trans people have a far lower than average risk of suffering murder or violence.

The claims that transwomen are at risk of violence come from statistics on black transwomen prostitutes. It’s because they are black prostitutes, nothing to do with trans status. They are still not at unusually high risk compared to other prostitutes or black people.

The dishonest claims of hate, fear and victimhood serve three purposes: to pressurise the public and authorities to give trans people a protected group status; to evoke sympathy and counter the public’s valid fears of strange men; and to play-act as the role of being dainty, frightened girls, which strokes their ego.
 
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I mean trans people are at risk of hate crimes and violence against them just like women are.

And many of them don't even get reported. Over 40% of trans people state they have had a hate crime incident against them in the past 12 months and over 80% don't even report hate crimes against them. https://www.stonewall.org.uk/lgbt-britain-hate-crime-and-discrimination

We can be worried about both. Some people seem to think it's either/or.
 
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That is simply not true.

In the U.K., there are more transwomen murderers than murder victims.

In the USA, trans people have a far lower than average risk of suffering murder or violence.

The claims that transwomen are at risk of violence come from statistics on black transwomen prostitutes. It’s because they are black prostitutes, nothing to do with trans status. They are still not at unusually high risk compared to other prostitutes or black people.

The dishonest claims of hate, fear and victimhood serve three purposes: to pressurise the public and authorities to give trans people a protected group status; to evoke sympathy and counter the public’s valid fears of strange men; and to play-act as the role of being dainty, frightened girls, which strokes their ego.
The last sentence reminds me of something I read about "Danielle Muscato" having a panic attack and insisting all men leave the room
 

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I mean trans people are at risk of hate crimes and violence against them just like women are.

And many of them don't even get reported. Over 40% of trans people state they have had a hate crime incident against them in the past 12 months and over 80% don't even report hate crimes against them. https://www.stonewall.org.uk/lgbt-britain-hate-crime-and-discrimination

We can be worried about both. Some people seem to think it's either/or.
Those statistics are based on self-reporting, from a group that is extremely over-sensitive to any perceived slight, and has a vested interest in being seen as victims.
 
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