Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #54 hashtag Alice for presisent!

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Also no offence to any of you, dear Turds (😘), but I just have to say it: One of the expressions that make the little hairs on my neck stand up is "y'all". Or worse even, "y'all's". Rumour has it that science is on the verge of discovering that frequent exposure to "y'all" can lead to severe cases of smallpox. 🥴😆

 
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The hair - I think she's been doing it herself and doing basic mistakes, as in bleach over already bleached hair, and equal time of bleach on roots whereas they should added with a delay. Repetitive harsh and intensive bleaching.
 
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I don't think someone like Tone (failing businesses, out of work, accused of being a scrounger by his beloved sister) would think that paying lawyers $$$$$ to hunt down the identities of random people on Twitter was a sensible use of money.
I mean she he says he shops in Waitrose...but I'm guessing he isn't in a position to waste money.
Surely the better answer is don't go on Twitter and abuse people and then you wouldn't get yourself into this mess?
 
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I was wondering if people could help me. Most people here refer to Alice as being a Narc. I'm assuming that is a condition one is born with
Not sure you can make that assumption. There is lots of good material on narcs on the web and Dr Ramani in YT specialises in helping victims of narc abuse deal with their trauma (they tend to be forgotten about as they usually suffer in silence).
 
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Also no offence to any of you, dear Turds (😘), but I just have to say it: One of the expressions that make the little hairs on my neck stand up is "y'all". Or worse even, "y'all's". Rumour has it that science is on the verge of discovering that frequent exposure to "y'all" can lead to severe cases of smallpox. 🥴😆

Welllllll, "ya'll" is inherently Scots. Recently researched in Scotland and announced in the newspapers here. Its mostly Glaswegian. It was transported to the American South with settlers. It serves a multitude of uses. So I respectfully decline to agree with you. We have many cultural differences on here.
 
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The word that really annoys me (besides panties, ugh) is flavourful, it's flavoursome not flavourful! And healthful instead of healthy. So annoying!

I was wondering if people could help me. Most people here refer to Alice as being a Narc. I'm assuming that is a condition one is born with and not something someone chooses, so if it's a MH issue should we not be making jokes about it? If she's missing an empathy chip does she have any control over that? Is it akin to someone being born without a limb or having BPD or BD? I have the same question in relation to her alleged alcoholism. If she genuinely is an alcoholic, should it be something to be laughed at? I know there is a difference between laughing at, or being mad at, something someone with those problems says or does (eg attacking BW's MS, or bullying IG) so obviously they should be held responsible for their bad behaviour, but if some of that behaviour is caused by something they can't help (as in if it's caused by a condition they're born with) should it be laughed at? If it's a behaviour that can be changed by treatment (medicine or therapy) then AE would need to take responsibility to get help, but as we know a lot of alcoholics often can't/don't get real help until they've hit rock bottom. Any help would be appreciated.
For starters she hasn't been officially diagnosed with anything!

I think for me, being a narcissist might explain the behaviour, but it doesn't excuse the behaviour, if that makes sense. People with NPD still need to be held accountable to what is and what isn't acceptable, even if it isn't inherent in them (I actually don't know very much about the disorder so don't know what is inherent to it and what isn't) and they are certainly capable of knowing what is right and what isn't, even if they think it doesn't apply to them.

They are still part of a society and they are capable of harming others. It's not just a behaviour that affects them alone, they can severely affect people they are close to.
 
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I’m just gonna post this really quickly because I’ve followed these threads since the start and never been able to bring myself to post my experience, a) cos I didn’t want to derail but b) because it’s still (without wanting to sound like a bellend) really traumatic to talk about. But my ex acted exactly like Alice, bar the drunk Twitter attacks. And I’ve seen a lootttt of comments about how the courts always recognise parental alienation and I can confirm this is absolutely not the case, or it wasn’t for me. There are sooo many similarities in their behaviour hence why I find it hard to talk about yet also have followed these threads incessantly. But no the court will not always ‘see clear as day’ what’s going on. People with this much bitterness in them can be very, very convincing when they know they have to act a certain way. Although we ended up with 50/50 shared custody, and my barrister put across countless examples of what my ex had done, the courts absolutely did NOT see or understand the extent of how my ex had tried to eradicate me from my girls’ lives. At one point he blocked me from seeing them for a full 6 weeks and that’s just the easiest example I can give. I was the primary carer their whole lives. Anyway that’s my 2p. I hate Alice’s behaviour with all my heart. I’ve seen someone commenting about how her ‘this is the girls’ family home’ stuff will be seen through as well and I fully agree it’s a load of shite so Thankyou for acknowledging it as such. But in my experience the family courts in the UK did place a lot of emphasis on my ex’s endless banging on about him living in the ‘family home the girls have always known.’ Yeah, because you kicked me out of it. But they weren’t interested in that. Anyway, rant over.
 
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I’m just gonna post this really quickly because I’ve followed these threads since the start and never been able to bring myself to post my experience, a) cos I didn’t want to derail but b) because it’s still (without wanting to sound like a bellend) really traumatic to talk about. But my ex acted exactly like Alice, bar the drunk Twitter attacks. And I’ve seen a lootttt of comments about how the courts always recognise parental alienation and I can confirm this is absolutely not the case, or it wasn’t for me. There are sooo many similarities in their behaviour hence why I find it hard to talk about yet also have followed these threads incessantly. But no the court will not always ‘see clear as day’ what’s going on. People with this much bitterness in them can be very, very convincing when they know they have to act a certain way. Although we ended up with 50/50 shared custody, and my barrister put across countless examples of what my ex had done, the courts absolutely did NOT see or understand the extent of how my ex had tried to eradicate me from my girls’ lives. At one point he blocked me from seeing them for a full 6 weeks and that’s just the easiest example I can give. I was the primary carer their whole lives. Anyway that’s my 2p. I hate Alice’s behaviour with all my heart. I’ve seen someone commenting about how her ‘this is the girls’ family home’ stuff will be seen through as well and I fully agree it’s a load of shite so Thankyou for acknowledging it as such. But in my experience the family courts in the UK did place a lot of emphasis on my ex’s endless banging on about him living in the ‘family home the girls have always known.’ Yeah, because you kicked me out of it. But they weren’t interested in that. Anyway, rant over.
yeah, generally parental alienation is hard to prove cause it's word against word ( doubt benefits to the accused, Alice has complained about this concept in political rants before, but it's the one thing that could save her), but the case is different when somebody posts clear signs/evidences of it on Social Media. At least I know many of these cases

Very sorry to hear about your experience
 
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And me! No offence intended to anybody involved in the last thread, especially those affected by sensitive topics. However I hate the word "triggering" and also the word "woke".
As far as phrases go I am most wound up by the term "fussy eater" when describing a child, especially if parents post on social media about this. I realise there are some children who have special needs who may struggle with certain foods, so my comment is aimed at those parents who feed their children nothing but chicken nuggets and chips. I find this TRIGGERING! (Sorry).
And..breathe. random I know, just had to get it out.
I don't like the way "triggering" often gets misused now, but I do think it's a useful word. I have PTSD and I'm glad there's a term out there specifically to describe that aspect of it.
 
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Tone's tweeting is back to manic levels. I'm not going to list every tweet but yesterday
First tweet 12.33 pm (just after midday on Sunday)
Continued tweeting all day and all night until 6.59am (Monday morning)
So a solid 18.5 hours on Twitter
Then back tweeting at 1.02pm today (Monday afternoon)- so six hours sleep between 7am to 1pm then straight back on Twitter.

Who does this sound like?
 
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yeah, generally parental alienation is hard to prove cause it's word against word ( doubt benefits to the accused, Alice has complained about this concept in political rants before, but it's the one thing that could save her), but the case is different when somebody posts clear signs/evidences of it on Social Media. At least I know many of these cases

Very sorry to hear about your experience
Yes you’re right; hopefully Alice has done more than enough to dig her own grave, it’s literally like she’s written a book about the lengths she’s gone to to undermine/disregard Ioan’s place in their lives. Yet still contradicts herself every five minutes when she claims by leaving he’s caused them some huge trauma, then in the next breath she’s the only parent they’ve ever known. I really do hope in this case it all works against her, and in the interests of those girls. Not saying they don’t need Alice too; of course they do. But they need to be allowed a healthy relationship with both and to be shielded as much as poss from any more of this tit storm. Thanks, it was horrible but we are now 5 months post our final court hearing and things have improved dramatically all round for everyone. To anyone going through it - you will get there!
 
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The word that really annoys me (besides panties, ugh) is flavourful, it's flavoursome not flavourful! And healthful instead of healthy. So annoying!

I was wondering if people could help me. Most people here refer to Alice as being a Narc. I'm assuming that is a condition one is born with and not something someone chooses,
I often wonder about this. The cause is unknown but apart from environmental factors like parenting style it’s been found to be hereditary in families. All children are quite narcissistic so it’s not recognised in childhood and can only be identified towards adulthood. You don’t choose it and it’s almost impossible to change it so why is it ok to criticise it or mock it?

My answer is this. Narcs harm other people when they feel compelled to, they get satisfaction from it. They prefer to do it with an audience and prefer to get away with it while making their victim look bad. Accountability and calling them out in a way that is impossible to ignore limits that ability to be abusive: if their behaviour isn’t worth the cost to themselves they will control their behaviour. Like stopping the abuse and closing their Twitter account temporarily when necessary.

Alcoholism and pill abuse, first they have to stop the denial and recognise there is a problem. Hitting rock bottom only helps of you know you’re there, so again pointing it out is actually facilitating the change.

Good points though. If she wasn’t abusive I wouldn’t be calling her out, for the same reasons you said.
 
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Slightly off topic but not really..
Ive watched the cameo video a few times and agree with everything that has been said on our threads. I too feel a pang of pity for her and I wish she would smarten herself up a bit and be her best self (I work from home currently and you know i sit here not looking like my best self most days but I pull it together when I need to jump on a video call)

but what is with the hair?

is this too much bleaching? Is it really short and that’s all she can do with it? How long has she been wearing wigs, do we have a picture of AE in a wig and has she said why she wear a wig?

I also know of a few people with short, flattened down yellow hair and I’m really curious as to how it gets to this point
I concur! Her hair puzzles me; obviously it’s very fine, which has its own difficulties, and she has joked that it is thin. So why the over-bleaching and slicked down style, which makes it look thinner? My bff has similar hair, so she gets really good cuts to give it shape, and colours it gently.
 
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