Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #94 Covid negative, but positively desperate for attention

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Just William

I've been watching the Depp/Heard trial LIVE & plenty of reminders of Ioan & Alice.
JD trying to walk away from conflict she started but her following him verbally abusing him & name calling.
JD locking himself in the bathroom to escape & her hammering on the door - can see Alice doing that & it's within the realms of possibility that she broke it down as she will not be ignored.
Gaslighting/being pedantic by denying she punched him but admitting she had been hitting him.

I don't think JD is without any blame, his drugs/booze addictions have fucked him up, but I def' see AH as the abuser & aggressor.
I wish I hadn't looked up why she's called Amber turd. Vile. ETA then they mentioned it in the trial.
If Ioan still submits his audio & video evidence I think it will resemble some of what was heard from JD's audio evidence.
 
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M33L4

The only difference is Alice didn’t shit the bed, Emma did.
 
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lulooo

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Words almost fail me. She is such an evil bitch, totally lacking in empathy, understanding, and any thought of anyone else. The only person who matters to Alice, the only person she loves, is Alice. Was she born like this, or did she learn to be like this along the way? How can those who fawn over her on IG not see who she really is? Or are they mostly sock accounts?
 
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welp

the reason why there are so many recordings on the Depp/Heard case is because the couple therapist ordered them to record each other, so it became consent. Might be possible that Alice and Ioan's therapist said the same, but according to Alice their therapy lasted three sessions and I rather doubt that their relationship was this disfunctional for a therapist to suggest this. So if Ioan has recordings it will be things Alice sent to him (like a voicemail). Of course if Alice contacts him with the TRO he can record everything too

I see Ioan more innocent than Depp btw, at least based on what we know. And he is also smarter about it by filing a DV case rather than to clean up the mess afterwards when it's too late.
 
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Just William

I heard that they had been ordered to record each other. Such a toxic relationship.
Yeah exactly, Ioan's recordings would be stuff she sent him & at least he's protected by the TRO letting him record everything.

Sorry I didn't word it well, I wasn't comparing Ioan to Depp in terms of innocence. I see Ioan solely as the victim.
(Depp I see as both victim & abusive but AH the main abuser & aggressor.)
It was more his trying to placate the Narc, trying to walk away, locking himself away in a bathroom, the aggression from AH, etc
which reminded me of Ioan.
 
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Endora

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Uh oh no good for her baps ( or mine tbf)
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I have never seen a clothing ad that warns the busty away from a garment. That's a little size-ist of old Harvey. If I was Lizzo, I'd buy one just to get papped in it.
 
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Endora

Not to mention that annoying habit she has of copying his outfit the following day, right down to a bee insignia on a necktie. If only Johnny could show up in a dress one day without horrifying the jury, I'd applaud him.

I saw a piece on the news today about the trial, and the talking head whose name I never got - some entertainment reporter-type - made what I thought was a good comment. The way the testimony is playing out, it sounds as if the couple were mutual combatants. How will a jury reconcile that with Amber's claim to be a victim only?
 
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Just William


I know, what is it with that? Lol at him turning up in a dress! That would throw her! Sulky looking bitch. She has a horrible rep of treating anyone who she thinks lower than her like waiting staff like shit. She has to treat her legal team politely, bet that kills her, ha!
Not sure how this is going to play out but those audio tapes damaged her stance as a victim when she was clearly being abusive.
It's horribly fascinating!
Her lawyer is really getting on my nerves with his "did I say that right?" FFS he's the lawyer, doesn't he know what he's saying?! So patronising.
I do think she comes across as manipulative & whilst he was vile (those texts when he was off his head) but def' feel she was the main abuser.
To that end, unless something horrific comes out, I hope he wins. ETA although there won't really be a winner.
The damage has been done. ETA very glad they didn't have children.
 
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lulooo

She is their only parent! I hope Ioan’s lawyers have seen this
 
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Whodofthunk

I never was close with my mom at all when I was younger, but when my folks split up my dad moved two thousand miles away. The week he was leaving they got into a huge argument and she told him she was going to kill herself and he told her he wouldn't take us even if she did . Mind you my little brother was four, I was 12, and my sister was 14. It for sure left us feeling unwanted and unloved by both parties and it showed in our lives later. I'm 60 and that crap still runs through my mind from time to time. Some things kids should just never know or hear. It's a parent's place to shield them and make them feel loved and secure. It's not about money or what you have it's about how you treat them. I'm through now sorry about that.
 
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Just William

lulooo said:
She is their only parent! I hope Ioan’s lawyers have seen this
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That remark makes me sick. I hope they do too. Disgusting.

I'm so sorry @Whodofthunk - what an awful thing to experience as a child, the damage really can last a lifetime. BIB - exactly right.
I do hope you found happiness. xxx

Your post reminded me of something Alice said along the lines that in 15 years time the girls wouldn't even remember any of this which coming from someone who holds grudges for decades is rich.
Yes ALICE THEY WILL REMEMBER & one day they will also discover it was YOU that kept their dad from them.
 
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claudiarocks

I did want to say if CPS haven’t been at her house all day then there’s something wrong with the world too … like how the hell can they not have been ? Am I wrong ? I mean I know she’ll fckin lie and say it was a joke (which it was but not) I’ve been bubbling all day I honestly haven’t stopped thinking about what a fckin headcase she is …. she’s such a cnut all those feelings she’s evoked for anyone with a heart ! through her fckin BS … AGAIN … smh I’m still fuming
 
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C

Citney

I cannot believe she wrote that about if she had been closer to her “sister”. This woman is unbelievable, makes me wonder about IG for spending 20 years with her.
 
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lulooo

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She is such a cow. People are being nice and understanding about her comments, so she’s all sweetness and light. Then there is a comment she doesn’t like, and normal service resumes. The real Alice responds, being nasty and dismissive to the person calling her out on her lies about her age.

claudiarocks said:
It’s cause she thinks she is one
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Many thanks @claudiarocks for your humour, love it
 
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M33L4

So let’s try and lighten the mood from that absolute shit show earlier. Polite reminder to take a break, go and hug your loved ones or have some self care. Make a warm drink, watch a funny tv show, think of my Mimsy. Whatever it takes to brighten this thread.
Today is my son’s birthday, the boy we almost lost to covid last year, for that I’m beyond thankful and grateful that he’s here.
There are helplines out there. If you feel it’s too much please please know I’m here for you.
 
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