Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #26 Ioan & Bianca get papped out walkin, Check behind all trees for Alice stalkin

[Yel]

Oh god more talk of twitter accounts

If they really wanted to prove they had a connection to someone spoken about here they could have just got them to DM the tattle accounts on social media. Not that we even want people with real life connections here because it muddies the water.

They've not done that. All this person has done is sent 16 emails threatening tattle, saying how gross they feel being asked to prove a friend is a friend and demanding an apology from tattle mods. Like get in the bin, talk about zero comprehension of what we have to deal with on tattle. Imagine if tattle let all fantasists run wild . Who knows who is who but it's hardly the most outrageous thing to ask for validation to back up claims

 

[teekimoo]

I’ve been keeping Bianca updated on tattle, and she has asked me to say that she is always so damn grateful for the support

 

[IHateHadargoyle]

For all the talk of how old, bad, and decrepit IG looks I’m not surprised Bianca came to LA. Because they need to hurry their relationship along considering he has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel!
JFC! People his age run, swim, dance, have sex”without Viagra” and are good at it. They laugh, dream, love, learn, change professions, write books, run for office, and start businesses. Some ascend and descend Mt. Everest.
They’re more gentle, kinder, tolerant, and much much wiser. All while feeling in their mind just like they did in their 20’s.
I feel slightly better having said this. Slightly. I just don’t care for ageism anymore than I do any other prejudice.
Oh, and you will be 48 before you know it.

 

[welp]

A laugh to start the thread

 

[welp]

As a Half German I have to say narcissist is a cakewalk in terms of long words

 

[PinkyWinky]

Keep it on Tattle means don’t contact the people involved in these threads. None of us have any place in these people’s lives and if anyone does, then WTF are you here gossiping about them on Tattle for? We are all total strangers to them. Contacting them out of the blue to comment on their (very) personal life is unlikely to make either of them feel comfortable is it.
Some people are getting so wrapped up in it they think they are part of the story and that’s effed-up no matter how good your intentions are.
I don’t know If BW really is sending thank you messages to tattlers, I hope it isn’t true. I like to think IG is keeping quiet and not responding to AE for the sake of his girls (and not cos he’s a scratch-card addict ) so if she is egging people on, that would be totally inappropriate.

AE has no consideration for her kid’s dignity, for boundaries or for their privacy. IG does (as far as we know). Can you show some respect for his boundaries? For the girl’s right to privacy? and step back into the threads of Tattle and keep this banter where it belongs.

*takes a bow, gets her coat, exits…

 

[ReturningthePearls]

RE: Reaching out to Bianca being weird

I had a very brief chat with her a little while ago.

The single time I was doxxed on social media, by a vindictive person whom I had trusted, right after a disagreement with them, I got so shaken about the harassment that I overdosed. It wasn't a su*cide attempt, as intense the ideation had been those long four months; I just kept upping and upping my Xanax dosage to sedate myself from the outer noise, and I guess it all piled up inside me one night and I had to be hospitalized and was on su*cide watch.

I messaged her a little while back because I personally wouldn't be alive anymore if I received even a fraction of the volume of messages she's been getting, to say nothing of their content. I'm spiritual, I'm very much attuned to Allah (perhaps far more than I share here), and even those things wouldn't have saved me from this kind of chaos. She's pretty easily accessible on social media as she isn't overwhelmed with 1 million followers, I'm a year younger than her, we like the same things, it seems. I just said I hoped she was caring for herself and I passed on a powerful quote I had read in a book. She liked it. We had a very brief chat, like I said, and I should respect her privacy so I'd like to not say anything further.

But I just wanted to share to remind some people in here that we don't know people's every intention behind the things they do, and pretending we know can be hurtful. We can easily detail most of AE's objectives, but not always those of the person sitting next to us. My reaching out was an offering of healing. It was not "Tattle-inspired," because it was what I would do in literally any circumstance, outside of Tattle.

I don't surrender my empathy because it looks "disturbing" to someone.
I said what I said. Carry on.

 

[ReturningthePearls]

The most relevant meme I will ever birth.

 

[EllaBella89]

This ones for long word Alice.
Love from Wales x

 

[EssieMay]

I'm about action. Actions speak louder than words. The actions I see are:
Ioan working to pay for his family (roof, food, school, paid caregiver).
Alice sitting on her arse, doing SFA.
Ioan saying nothing in public about Alice.
Alice abusing Ioan on public platforms.
Ioan trying to get child custody/access sorted.
Alice trying to prevent him from having child access/custody.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - he might not be doing everything ideal but he's making a serious effort to do right and he's doing a heck of a lot more than she is.
FYI, I stand with Ioan since I learned the background to this PR disaster. See Wiki.

 

[Junebug895]

For those who are thinking messaging a stranger is weird, I take no offence, but would like to offer up some food for thought.

When I was younger I worked at a supermarket, and part of our training was to always smile and be kind to the elderly. I distinctly remember the phrase "your smile might be the only smile they see all day" and that has stuck with me through life. Consequently I grin like a demented banshee at everyone in the street

My point being that there's nothing wrong with reaching out to a total stranger to offer some compassion. At least, not to me anyway. You never know what sort of a difference it might make to someone. Some of the FMs are going way too far in appointing themselves AE's personal bodyguard and BFF for life, that is delusional and a bit off. But to offer a kind word to someone who's going through hell? I honestly don't see what's wrong with that, and like @ReturningthePearls I'll be sticking to that outlook.

Again though, you're all completely entitled to your own opinions!

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

*Ioan Nice Guy alert*

I was looking for some goss on popbitch and this is all I found. For those who don't like IG, scroll on now, before you get offended..

“Twenty years ago this week, Ioan Gruffudd (star of Hornblower; had recently been in Titanic) was up for Best Actor at the BAFTA Cymru awards in Cardiff. I was working the door, no-one was getting in without a ticket; he was running late and the ceremony had started.

“There was a look of abject panic as he realised he’d forgotten his ticket. Not a peep of DYKWIA, just him making urgent phone calls a few feet away. I finally (finally) recognised him and realised that he might actually be required up on stage to collect an award, so checked he was who I thought he was.

“He seemed shocked to be recognised but confirmed and I usher him in. Come the end of the shift, the bartender tells me a punter who looked like Hornblower had bought me a pint and a whisky chaser.”

This is why I never got why he got with AE all those years ago. He was obviously nice and she, uh, wasn't. He could have got someone pretty but not unhinged. Thankfully he may have realised that now, hence Bianca.

 

[LucySmith]

Is It staged? She looks completely unaware, and frankly not flattering pics either. I’m assuming DM are equal opportunity misery merchants….

She has shoes on so I think she set it up.

 

[Mad Betty]

So about those papped photos at the Apple Store...

The Apple Store is in the Grove. It's close to AE's (really IG's legally) house. The Grove is a hot spot for famous folk, though I go often and I never see paps there. In fact, I was there the other night and not one in sight. Alice is unrecognizable and not famous. No pap would have stalked her from her house or known who she was. She'd have called them, IMO. It happens all the time here. Just ask the Kardashians.

 

[Caitlyn130]

It sure would be. Do you know IG - you mention his point of view? This suggests you are privy to his thinking. Quite a few people seem to know BW or IG on here now, their thinking, their motives etc. A few people have “reached out” to them and reported back here. I find this a bit odd. The FMs get rightly flamed about their perceived relationship with AE, acting as the Praetorian Guard for her. The same thing is happening on here for IG and BW. We seem to have moved away from discussing the emerging story with all its twists and turns, to people saying they know what is happening, that they know BW and IG, and the majority of us commenting in what we think is an objective way, are barking up the wrong tree because we don’t know BW and IG.

Just how many people here know them properly, and how many are strangers but have taken the leap to make contact with BW, and through her, IG.

I think this is probably directed at me but I never said I know BW. I did reach out to her ages ago (before I joined here) just with well wishes, and she got back to me and probably others - she said she had been waiting for the madness to die down before responding to her DMs. That's probably why the sudden mentions of her contacting people. We actually had a pretty extensive conversation yesterday via SM which I'm not gonna report back on for obvious reasons but I still don't profess to 'know her' or know details about the situation. And I'm still pretty neutral on here about IG and BW, I just thought it was nice of her to respond to people with thanks. I'm definitely still speaking objectively when I post.
There is also BW's friend who posts here but I won't get into that now because I really don't want to start any arguments. I just think it's wise to not believe everything everyone says online and take everything as the gospel truth.

Also, I took 'from IG's point of view' to mean looking at it as if we were in his shoes type of thing. Like thinking about it from his perspective. Not that Lucy actually knows what he's thinking.

 

[klarakluckbag]

I have to laugh at how AE describes Piers Morgan unfollowing her on a social media platform as "cowardly", and "the most hurtful thing to do to someone".
Alice is just a couple of years younger than me. I'm a middle-aged woman, with a spouse and adult offspring. The idea of living my life through SM, is laughable to most people of my age. Much as we like a bit of Tattle, or Facebook, we don't tend to measure our worth through SM "friends". If the husband of one of my friends deleted me from Twitter or FB, I doubt that I'd even notice, and if I did, I wouldn't care. If Celia is really AE's "best" friend, then why is AE trying to embarass her by demanding to know where her husband is? No wonder she doesn't have many real-life friends if that's how she treats them. She needs to grow up, she's just a silly, vain woman who needs to get a grip.

I do feel for poor Bianca though. I'm not sure where she's getting her ideas about manifestation from. You're supposed to manifest good things to come to you, not summon Cthulu!

 

[Ena Sharples]

I just want to give a shout out to Welp for all of her detective skills and for posting all the screenshots etc. One evening when Alice had passed out cold and her FMs were doing mandatory group therapy in the institution, I started reading thread one. Welp was there at the beginning and has continued providing the material for us to work with. So thanks Welp much appreciated.

 

[Tootler]

I thought this to myself just the other day, that if he had really cheated, would that open my mind any to trying to see more of Alice's pain and behavior as such. And then I thought "no" lol.

I do think Ioan cheated and it does make me empathize with Alice's pain in a very specific way. HOWEVER, I was occasionally checking in on Alice long before Ioan talked of leaving her (I saw her bedazzled creations on a gossip site YEARS AGO and I was so disgusted/intrigued that I took an interest in the creator) and she was ALWAYS vindictive, self-righteous, vitriolic and basically unhinged. In other words, had Alice been a kindly, measured person until the split, I could have imagined that her current nastiness was simply a temporary reaction to being so grief-stricken. But no, this is simply who Alice is, has always been, and evermore shall be. As a result, my empathy is far, far overshadowed by my revulsion.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

Ok I don’t know . I feel attacked here.

This is the problem when AE goes quiet, Tattlers start attacking each other. We already had that drama before and a thread got shut down after warnings.

Can't we just accept we have different opinions on BW and IG and it doesn't make you a "raver". They have given us very little to go on so it's just speculation anyway.

That said, if someone butt kisses AE on here I might not be able to hold my tongue. I usually just use the emoji.

 

[Yel]

I’ve been keeping Bianca updated on tattle, and she has asked me to say that she is always so damn grateful for the support

Can you email tattle to provide evidence if you're claiming to be someone.

You wouldn't believe the amount of fantasists on here.

Thank you!