Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #230 You don't wanna mess with me. I know where I live.

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BessieNessie

marjorytrashheap said:
! But can't imagine he'd do that now. What would you turds do if you were him?
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I’d go for a relatively modest appartment in a nice building for starters. Something she (using his child support) can more or less match the rental value with.

As soon as additional cash starts coming in I’d buy a nicer and better located house but rent it out and not move into it myself until she’s no longer able to make crazy claims on the cash.

It’s nice he can plan ahead to a life where Alice’s psychosis is no longer his business.
 
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AllFurCoatNoKnickers1

That’s where the GAL comes in though.
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I suspect he paid all that money on the advice of his attorneys. And it’s not gone. It’ll be credited towards future payments.
 
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IHateHadargoyle

This won’t be a popular opinion but the girls will never be able to move forward as long as they are in the clutches of the beast. They will need to be independent of her. Ioan can still support them and let them know he’s around when they are ready but until then it’s a lost cause. I think the best thing he can do after all this is over is to put some distance between the 9 month hotel and his daughters. This isn’t the garden variety case of parental alienation we’re looking at here. It’s much more egregious and pervasive. My narc sibling was horrible but Alice makes her look like Mother Teresa.
 
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CookieMonsta

I don't think it's an unpopular opinion at all. Sadly I think it's just facts. I think we all hope for the best for the girls, some are more optimistic than others, but I think we all KNOW there is no chance for them while they live with Alice. Any good work therapy does will be over ridden by her toxicity, but hopefully it will hold them in good stead for when they inevitably do escape her.
 
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Who's Singing Now?

When I think about the girls I think how Ella reacted to the Judge's questions. That's a child who knows she is being pushed to act badly and who still loves both her parents.

I have never seen a picture of Alice and the children where there is the love and security you saw in pictures of Yo and his girls. That is still there no matter how angry they are at the moment.
 
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Hiraeth

This screenshot is dated as of yesterday from Alice's private messages on Instagram. Clear proof that she is supporting and directly requesting the exposure of private information without permission.

 
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Ally Pally

Alice still lying and playing the victim, there are posts on here by JoJo of Alice following JoJo on IG in an effort to intimidate her. Alice has known who JoJo is all along!
We see you Alice
Alice isn't interested in any of our identities she just wants there to be a tattle member that is Bianca or a family member of Bianca.
That's what she's secretly hoping for.
 
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welp

Materialism definitely plays some role, but at the end of the day the biggest issue is the perceived betrayal. Currently the children think that it's all Ioan's fault that they don't go on vacations anymore, that their mom has been crazy, that Ella doesnt get her rich girl school and possibly also no college, that they don't afford the same luxuries they probably used to have, that they havent had a house with a pool for at least a year (and counting) and that their inheritance will dwindle down (from a house plus savings to no house and probably having to share much less of the cake with future children, perhaps even not getting anything).

In short even if the kids are materialistic (and children are materialistic, just most are not encouraged by their mother to disown the other parent over it) it doesnt really matter if Ioan would offer the world to them at some point. The perceived fact that he "ruined" their lives the past 3 years (absolutely not true of course, but that's what children that have been raised by a dysfunctional mother think) overshadows everything.

The other issue is that most humans don't just go back from what they have said and make a complete 180. Most people are way too proud for that or think that they wronged the other party so much that it would be just wrong to act like nothing has happened.

I btw do think that at least the eldest is a bit materialistic (but not more than the average of her generation), but this stuff Alice pulled at the beginning to malign Ioan over how small his house is was I reckon mostly brainwashing for her PA. I would suspect that she also encouraged Ella to steal from him and to ask for money for getting therapy etc. So if Ioan would shower them with favours this will not work if the root of the entitlement is in parts just Alice's brainwashing.

Yes, 11 years olds like to have their own room, but they dont run out of the house if they have to spend one evening (IIRC at that point Ioan only had them weekends) in a room with their sister and father. When you go on vacations children don't get their own room either. so this is definitely entitlement that Alice provocated for the benefit of alienating him. My hope here is that this entitlement she ignited on Ella will backfire on her once she can no longer provide her with what she has taught her to be the bare minimum, but unfortunately she has also taught them that Alice has zero responsibility for them but that it's all on Ioan, even if they are treating him like shit.

Basically Ioan's sole hope is that they become smart (I'm not saying they are dumb, they just havent been provided with the knowledge and skills required, and at least the youngest is too young to stand up properly even if she has all that) enough to understand that this is not how the world works, but that would only help them to cut off Alice. It would only very partially help them to reconnect with Ioan, because to understand that he has not wronged them they have to make a complete 180 in their world view, and that is even a huge shock for adults, let alone for children. And when they manage that the guilt would quickly set in in how much they have wronged (even if largely not their fault) their father all these years. Obviously Ioan has shown with Lin that he holds no grudges, but making the contact in the first place despite all the shame you are feeling is pretty dificult. This one reason why it's often believed that it's better to leave children in the matrix rather than to guide them too early to the truth.

Hiraeth said:
This screenshot is dated as of yesterday from Alice's private messages on Instagram. Clear proof that she is supporting and directly requesting the exposure of private information without permission.

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is the expose side this stupid that they screenshoted this convo? lmao

I've read on the anti-tattle sub the other day that this site has become pretty pathetic (and this says a lot when the anti-tattle sub claims this). They are basically snarting over women because those women snarted over celebrities. It doesnt get more ironic than this.

It's kinda sad that she celebrates this as "big news" (that's also why I think that Tone's rant was not about any evaluation report but about this). She has followed that users IG account before and accused her of being Bianca early in the saga. It's nothing new.

Btw, please tell me that Alice still thinks of me and mentioned me there?
 
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Hoopla

Hiraeth said:
This screenshot is dated as of yesterday from Alice's private messages on Instagram. Clear proof that she is supporting and directly requesting the exposure of private information without permission.

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She's such a loser.

A damning child custody report has come out and all she's focused on is petty revenge against a stranger who called out the kind of behaviour that got her a domestic violence restraining order.

Worry about the damage you've done to your kids, mAlice. Good luck at the next court date – you'll need it.
 
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Lulugrace

And I've just had a looked at the general law on "cyber" crime/stalking etc and the police need two types of evidence to start investigate...and that screenshot @Hiraeth has just posted, is handing one of them on a silver platter!
 
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IKickLikeKatya

A quiz - who is this?

Used social media to harass ex's new gf.
Used sock account and false identity for harassment.
Pretended to be a victim of harassment.
Faked evidence to get ex's partner into legal trouble.
Couldn't accept that partner moved on and is insanely jealous.

Sounds awfully like big Al, doesn't it. This one just happens to be sitting in prison for life.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

Hiraeth said:
This screenshot is dated as of yesterday from Alice's private messages on Instagram. Clear proof that she is supporting and directly requesting the exposure of private information without permission.

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So there's an Insta dm group (as I suspected) dedicated to trying to doxx us. Bunch of cunts. Looks like some bell-end is saying "WISH I could get BridgeofSighs pic - not so sure how they hide themselves so well!" LOL I've had AFE try to doxx me since thread #1 with a $500 bounty on my head.

This is how the permanently unemployed spend their days. AFE's FM minions are 'care in the community' types that she can easily exploit - sucking up to a Z list domestic abuser gives their lives meaning I suppose.



Sounds like they want to contact people's work LMAO. I can imagine how the call to HR goes.

"Hello, I'd like to report one of your employees defaming Alice Evans on Tattle. She is a single mother and close personal friend of mine as well as being known for such hits as 102 Dalmatians and Vampire Diaries."

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Ally Pally said:
Alice isn't interested in any of our identities she just wants there to be a tattle member that is Bianca or a family member of Bianca.
That's what she's secretly hoping for.
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No she was trying to doxx 5 of us in thread #1. This was well before Bianca. She wants to add doxxing to her list of crimes.
 
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Ally Pally

Everything that Alice has accused Bianca of she herself is guilty of!
Ioan must have to pinch himself every morning because he can't believe he's no longer shackled to that cold fishwife.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

Hoopla said:
she's focused on is petty revenge against a stranger who called out the kind of behaviour that got her a domestic violence restraining order.
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Pathetic isn't it? She really wants to go nuts about IG and BW but can't risk it so we're the next best thing apparently. I will be requesting a raise from Yo in light of this attempted doxxing.
 
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T

taybridge

Curious, how do you see messages from an Instagram DM group? Does this mean anyone can see my private messages?
 
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welp

it isnt a IG group. It's a IG page that is dedicated to doxx tattle users (not only Alice, but it's one of the biggest threads here anyway). Obviously highly illegal unless they go to the police with this if there are actual threats (in very selected cases this certainly happens), so all very ironic.

And seemingly to then message celebrities about it so that they can feel important
 
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