Even if you bought into the story as older guy dumps wife for younger woman and have sympathy for her because of that (looking at you MN - other site) surely the utter ruin of the children will change opinion pronto.
Unless they get away from her. Like I said before both girls need to be rescued from the madhouse before it escalates any more. It's very disturbing to see sweet little Elsie become mAlice 3.0. She will be exactly the same as mAlice 2.0 unless they are removed.Alice destroys everyone she touches.
Lurking on this post for ages but don’t post that often - when I read that I just imagined how powerless they both felt watching her ransack the flat, trying her best to utterly humiliate both of them, having to just let her throw food all overMy god, this is just truly horrendous - even worse than I expected. It’s horrific. The attacks on Ioan and Bianca (physical and verbal), Ella sneering at Ioan’s flat on a live phone call, kicking the poor dog - and Alice engineered it all.
I thought that also…she was probably filming to see why they weren’t back at hers yet.In the statement from the psychologist, the highlighted text is curious.
I wonder what Alice was telling Ella, and also how she managed to "immediately phone" Ella once Ioan and Elsie had gone to buy a leotard? What a remarkable coincidence...
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It must be heartbreaking as these are still the same kids you cuddled and loved and laughed with 2 or so years ago. It will be like a grief for him, I’m sure he know realises he no longer recognises these kids but it’s his job to try to do everything he can to get them out of the situation they are in. He isn’t giving up for their sake not his, because he is literally torturing himself at each visit. I’m sure he is the only parent worried about their future whereas Alice and girls are literally only living in each moment to moment. It will be really interesting in custody to see whether she is able to even answer questions or give a plan for their futures without just bringing it straight back to it being Ioan’s fault. That point might be the time it all falls apart, as she is doing enough in the moment to keep them alive but they aren’t thriving, and they aren’t progressing. Both girls are mentally unwell. In reality Alice cannot handle Ioan’s depth of compassion and empathy and this fuels her rage. She knows this is the way to break himLurking on this post for ages but don’t post that often - when I read that I just imagined how powerless they both felt watching her ransack the flat, trying her best to utterly humiliate both of them, having to just let her throw food all over
and not being able to do anything about it.
I don’t think I would have had that level of restraint if that was me so even more kudos to yo and bee for being able to rise above it in such a febrile situation.
Rising above it because they know that’s what sensible adults do.
Bianca, at 31 years old, is more emotionally mature than 54-year-old Alice will ever be. I'm so full of admiration for her.Lurking on this post for ages but don’t post that often - when I read that I just imagined how powerless they both felt watching her ransack the flat, trying her best to utterly humiliate both of them, having to just let her throw food all over
and not being able to do anything about it.
I don’t think I would have had that level of restraint if that was me so even more kudos to yo and bee for being able to rise above it in such a febrile situation.
Rising above it because they know that’s what sensible adults do.
They are very slow off the mark reporting this bit from the previous sworn statements. Despite which, I see one deluded asshat in the DM comments blamed Ioan for "looking" when she did so.Oh god ... back again, I just saw the headline in the news ... "flashing her muff while picking the kids up" ...
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Absolutely!You know, when some people say that Ioan's only mistake was to move in with Bianca so early, it wasn't. It wouldn't have made a difference if he'd stayed celibate for a decade - that witch would still have tried to destroy him and his relationship with the girls.
I'm so happy for him that he has a bit of happiness in his life to remind him that he doesn't deserve what he had to put up with all those years. I hope they go the distance, but even if they don't, he now knows what a grownup loving relationship is between two people who like and respect each other. Cos he sure as hell didn't have that with that crazy bitch.
MN is absolutely blind on this issue. They are seriously writing off all the evidence - all the court documents, all the reams of horrific abuse - as poor Alice just having a nervous breakdown because her husband had an affair. If the sexes were swapped they would be calling for Ioan to be arrested.Even if you bought into the story as older guy dumps wife for younger woman and have sympathy for her because of that (looking at you MN - other site) surely the utter ruin of the children will change opinion pronto.
On your polyphasic sleep? I feel for you! I'm working from bed today after last night's eleventh hour revelations and I'm still2 articles still not mentioning the most important bits lol
yes. im travelling today tho
Absolutely and all she is doing is nailing it to everyone why he fled with the clothes on his back.What kind of mother allows all of this speculation about their own kids? She’s set Ella and Elsie up and their behaviour to be discussed and dissected because she sets up pap stories with her ugly pal Alison Fuckoff. Imagine using your own daughters in this way because their daddy had enough of your batshit and abusive behaviour. Shameful.
Possibly Ella text her?In the statement from the psychologist, the highlighted text is curious.
I wonder what Alice was telling Ella, and also how she managed to "immediately phone" Ella once Ioan and Elsie had gone to buy a leotard? What a remarkable coincidence...
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I think given the "pushing with her foot" accompanied by the words "fucking dog". Ella wasn't being gentle and this was an act of aggression towards a defenceless animal who'd done her no harm whatsoever.I’m sorry for saying Ella kicked Bubba, I was reading the transcripts and read she moved the dog with her foot as a kick. I was imagining her kicking off and being the aggressor and saying “fucking dog”. Although I think Ioan and Bianca were being careful with their wording here.
I think Ella would also be perceived differently if the sexes were swapped. If this was a six foot tall nearly 14 year old boy raging in an apartment, I think people would have different feelings about it.MN is absolutely blind on this issue. They are seriously writing off all the evidence - all the court documents, all the reams of horrific abuse - as poor Alice just having a nervous breakdown because her husband had an affair. If the sexes were swapped they would be calling for Ioan to be arrested.
I don't give a solitary fuck even if he *did* have an affair, frankly. If it catapulted him away from that bride of Satan good for him, I'd be happy with him having a hundred affairs.
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