Ian Watkins

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Because she’s as depraved as him which is a very rare trait. Looks didn’t matter so much as the shared depravity.
Yep that would have been her USP.

Although not unique because of those other ducked up lowlifes doing the exact same thing but also offering him their children 🤮
 
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Seriously wonder why either of them would want to have anything to do with the other - he seems like he was a really nasty, vindictive character and wouldn't have spoken to her after *waves arms around* all this.
 
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Yes,.can't remember where B was from and couldn't find much about her online. She's back in prison after breaching something upon release but A was released in 2023 I think
That Joanne I’m sure she used to think she was Victoria Beckham, I remember seeing someone years ago before all this came out. when VB had extensions she had really cheap ones and she used to have badly applied lipstick. This was years ago but when it all came out I was like I’m sure that that bird who used to come into work thinking she was VB.
 
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I’m always confused by how these people find their equally depraved soul mate. Fred and Rose West being another couple the same. I mean how do two people get into conversation about wanting to do such things to people and the other go along with it without actually reporting these people and thinking it’s a seemingly normal conversation. Like Rose and Fred, (whoever said it first) what shall we do today then? Fancy a trip to the shops, maybe out for some lunch? Nah, I fancy killing one of the kids and burying them, you up for it? Yeah great idea, I’ll get my spade?!
if someone said something like that you’d be like wtf, get out and ring 999. Surely you’d be worried even saying stuff like that would have people running to the police?
Anyway, I’m glad he’s gone and he can’t reach anymore people from his cell to groom.
 
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I’m always confused by how these people find their equally depraved soul mate. Fred and Rose West being another couple the same. I mean how do two people get into conversation about wanting to do such things to people and the other go along with it without actually reporting these people and thinking it’s a seemingly normal conversation. Like Rose and Fred, (whoever said it first) what shall we do today then? Fancy a trip to the shops, maybe out for some lunch? Nah, I fancy killing one of the kids and burying them, you up for it? Yeah great idea, I’ll get my spade?!
if someone said something like that you’d be like wtf, get out and ring 999. Surely you’d be worried even saying stuff like that would have people running to the police?
Anyway, I’m glad he’s gone and he can’t reach anymore people from his cell to groom.
Years ago I started reading a book about the Wests. Didn’t get far as it made me sick to my stomach but they both had extremely ducked up childhoods.

Both had families where incest was normalised. They had an identical warped outlook and lack of boundaries from day one.

You can see how they reinforced each other’s perversions and then enabled each other to cross those lines from fantasy to acting out on them.
 
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Years ago I started reading a book about the Wests. Didn’t get far as it made me sick to my stomach but they both had extremely ducked up childhoods.

Both had families where incest was normalised. They had an identical warped outlook and lack of boundaries from day one.

You can see how they reinforced each other’s perversions and then enabled each other to cross those lines from fantasy to acting out on them.
Mae West's book is truly shocking what she endured, she continued writing to Rose for sometime in prison as well but not now
 
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I’m always confused by how these people find their equally depraved soul mate. Fred and Rose West being another couple the same. I mean how do two people get into conversation about wanting to do such things to people and the other go along with it without actually reporting these people and thinking it’s a seemingly normal conversation. Like Rose and Fred, (whoever said it first) what shall we do today then? Fancy a trip to the shops, maybe out for some lunch? Nah, I fancy killing one of the kids and burying them, you up for it? Yeah great idea, I’ll get my spade?!
if someone said something like that you’d be like wtf, get out and ring 999. Surely you’d be worried even saying stuff like that would have people running to the police?
Anyway, I’m glad he’s gone and he can’t reach anymore people from his cell to groom.
I think this too. I say the same about the ones that share images online. How do they know it's not one of them peadophile hunter things ? How do you approach these things,it's so ducked up
 
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I’m always confused by how these people find their equally depraved soul mate. Fred and Rose West being another couple the same. I mean how do two people get into conversation about wanting to do such things to people and the other go along with it without actually reporting these people and thinking it’s a seemingly normal conversation. Like Rose and Fred, (whoever said it first) what shall we do today then? Fancy a trip to the shops, maybe out for some lunch? Nah, I fancy killing one of the kids and burying them, you up for it? Yeah great idea, I’ll get my spade?!
if someone said something like that you’d be like wtf, get out and ring 999. Surely you’d be worried even saying stuff like that would have people running to the police?
Anyway, I’m glad he’s gone and he can’t reach anymore people from his cell to groom.
It’s a strange phenomenon where if neither met each other, neither of them would have gone on to commit these sorts of crimes. It’s much like a trauma bond with lots of tiny micro decisions and experiences that enable them both to move the goal posts on what is morally and criminally acceptable, their life becomes the new normal over time and become desensitised from stimuli they were practising before. The same pattern can happen with singular people too, it’s how men that use sex workers end up killing them, ‘normal’ men that use pornography end up convicted peadophiles.
The trouble is normal folk presume peadophillia is rare, when it isn’t. 1 in 6 men have accessed indecent images of children. Most of them nowadays due to the rise in hardcore porn addiction, they wouldn’t have ever been peadophiles if they hadn’t accessed the internet. I work with SOs and despite being labeled the same, there’s a difference in those that are romantically and sexually interested in children and ones that have no romantic interest and just have a need to exert power, control and sadism over the most vulnerable. The second one I believe is Watkins.
 
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I think this too. I say the same about the ones that share images online. How do they know it's not one of them peadophile hunter things ? How do you approach these things,it's so ducked up
Peadophile hunters don’t lure them with images of children as that would be a crime. They use decoys pretending to be children and wait for the offender to initiate conversation.
The ones that make (download) indecent images will buy or swap their own with likeminded people on dark web or even telegram. Or they make their own using pictures of children usually on social media and manipulating images to look like CSA. Offenders are known to collect and store vast amounts of material. Which unless for financial gain I’ve always found odd as they incriminate themselves when caught. Watkins had 5TB of indecent images on his devices.
 
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Peadophile hunters don’t lure them with images of children as that would be a crime. They use decoys pretending to be children and wait for the offender to initiate conversation.
The ones that make (download) indecent images will buy or swap their own with likeminded people on dark web or even telegram. Or they make their own using pictures of children usually on social media and manipulating images to look like CSA. Offenders are known to collect and store vast amounts of material. Which unless for financial gain I’ve always found odd as they incriminate themselves when caught. Watkins had 5TB of indecent images on his devices.
I believe it's the way that they are uploaded and stored. They are all in batches that's why it's such a large number when someone is up in court, it's very rarely a couple of images. I remember reading that somewhere that they are categorized and downloaded in batches
 
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