How can she not see how ridiculous it looks when her bra is so visibly hanging out of her top??
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Oh god just saw that short vid where she’s mapping out the friendships she wants for the whole family. Like granted yes it’s in a self deprecating ‘I’m unhinged’ way but Hannah this is actually very harmfulmicromanagement that will burn you out and leave you resentful.
It’s not just about introversion/extroversion. Sometimes people - often men - are just genuinely not socially motivated and don’t value the ‘village’. No amount of effort can change this because it’s a values difference.
I find it quite embarrassing for her that she hasn’t picked up on this and is approaching it like a puzzle to be solved. It’s just all extremely sad to me. She’s clearly quite isolated and doesn’t have the support she needs, but it saddens me to see her grasping at straws, acting as if it’s something she can work harder and achieve (its been 2 years so clearly not), and taking sole responsibility for it.
It’s not just about introversion/extroversion. Sometimes people - often men - are just genuinely not socially motivated and don’t value the ‘village’. No amount of effort can change this because it’s a values difference.
I find it quite embarrassing for her that she hasn’t picked up on this and is approaching it like a puzzle to be solved. It’s just all extremely sad to me. She’s clearly quite isolated and doesn’t have the support she needs, but it saddens me to see her grasping at straws, acting as if it’s something she can work harder and achieve (its been 2 years so clearly not), and taking sole responsibility for it.
The thing is she's not that isolated though is she? She has a partner who lives with her, the father of her children who co parents, she seems to endlessly be seeing friends, she just seems unhappy with it anyway. I think that's the reason for choosing medicine, always reaching for other things for validation thinking "when I have this, I'll be happy" when that's not how life works. She needs to be in therapy and work on herself imo
Yes think that’s def a part of it. ‘‘When I have next baby; when I move to Manchester, when I have more clients’’ etc. … even the whole fixation on her clothes and ‘’finding my style’’ or ‘’optimising storage in our tiny flat’’ schtick. I find it particularly frustrating that she tries to girlboss through every aspect of her life she’s clearly unhappy with.
But as for actual loneliness/isolation, I do think there’s a bit of this. She definitely seems to have some social needs left unmet and this has arisen since Rowan was born - probably not helped by the fact her ‘job’ is sitting at home all day churning out pointless tit for social media. Clearly Dan isn’t meeting all her social needs (nor should he really). Her real friends seem to be quite geographically far and her mum friends seem to be pissing her off all the time, having more babies and not initiating plans
plus the new issue launched in this recent vid is their spouses aren’t friends with Dan lmao. I don’t doubt she could do with a bit of therapy to learn how to tolerate the dissatisfaction better but I’m not really surprised if she’s actually quite lonely. I think the micromanagement comes from genuine lack of intimacy / close connection with any of these people.
I think moving back to Manchester would fix a lot of her problems, she seems most happy when she has her mum and sister around her. Whilst I don’t think staying in London whilst she waits for a second child is the solution, a lot of her friends are also influencers so she doesn’t seem to do things without the camera either. She just needs a bit of a reset and focus on the good, she’s become very fixated on waiting for the next chapter aka the baby or moving or more clients etc rather than feeling blessed with her current life, and if she doesn’t process how she feels about maybe only having one child biologically or having this bigger age gap than the ideal life she imagined she is never going to be happy. She really needs some good therapy and to moveYes think that’s def a part of it. ‘‘When I have next baby; when I move to Manchester, when I have more clients’’ etc. … even the whole fixation on her clothes and ‘’finding my style’’ or ‘’optimising storage in our tiny flat’’ schtick. I find it particularly frustrating that she tries to girlboss through every aspect of her life she’s clearly unhappy with.
But as for actual loneliness/isolation, I do think there’s a bit of this. She definitely seems to have some social needs left unmet and this has arisen since Rowan was born - probably not helped by the fact her ‘job’ is sitting at home all day churning out pointless tit for social media. Clearly Dan isn’t meeting all her social needs (nor should he really). Her real friends seem to be quite geographically far and her mum friends seem to be pissing her off all the time, having more babies and not initiating plans
I don’t doubt she could do with a bit of therapy to learn how to tolerate the dissatisfaction better but I’m not really surprised if she’s actually quite lonely. I think the micromanagement comes from genuine lack of intimacy / close connection with any of these people.
Very true, I think this must be the issue with lots of jnfluencers. Unless you're a sort of generic lifestyle influencer, of which there are tonnes, you don't really have natural "colleagues" who are doing the same sort of things, which is her case I guessYes think that’s def a part of it. ‘‘When I have next baby; when I move to Manchester, when I have more clients’’ etc. … even the whole fixation on her clothes and ‘’finding my style’’ or ‘’optimising storage in our tiny flat’’ schtick. I find it particularly frustrating that she tries to girlboss through every aspect of her life she’s clearly unhappy with.
But as for actual loneliness/isolation, I do think there’s a bit of this. She definitely seems to have some social needs left unmet and this has arisen since Rowan was born - probably not helped by the fact her ‘job’ is sitting at home all day churning out pointless tit for social media. Clearly Dan isn’t meeting all her social needs (nor should he really). Her real friends seem to be quite geographically far and her mum friends seem to be pissing her off all the time, having more babies and not initiating plans
I don’t doubt she could do with a bit of therapy to learn how to tolerate the dissatisfaction better but I’m not really surprised if she’s actually quite lonely. I think the micromanagement comes from genuine lack of intimacy / close connection with any of these people.
Make some YouTube videos, beg & whine on the internet for a few weeks, get anything you want. I knew she’d be ending up at the Wicked premier the moment she opened her mouth a month ago.
Her and Leena did exactly the same thing. So beggy.
I thought it was embarrassing when I saw Leena’s video and then I saw Hannah was doing the same thing. I knew they’d end up going, but I struggle to feel happy for them because they live such blessed lives already in comparison to most. Leena’s now made a reel saying this is your sign to make the outfit for the party you’re not invited to, but in most situations when we’re truly left out or lonely, planning the outfit won’t manifest the desired outcome. In fact, it could make you feel more lonely. Sending positivity to all those who will struggle to afford a regular cinema ticket to see the film, even though the musical means a lot to them too.
Not to derail Hannah's thread but I used to really like Leena, I thought she was different (lol), but the vlog she did a few months ago showing the minimal work she spins out in a week and now the beggy posts about going to the Wicked premier have really made me change my views. More fool me! Resume thread...
Have you seen her video about decadence and Taylor Swift? That was the view changer for me.
Sorry who is this Leena? What her account name?
Leena Norms, I think?
I thought Leena was kind of immune against the phenomen that content quality goes down as soon as influencers make content creation their full time job. She wasn't, sadly. I get that producing videos is a lot more work behind the scene than we see but I'm always baffled by a one video per week shedule, especially since her husband is employed by her and edits her videos.
Yes sorry, Leena Norms. She, Hannah and Lucy Moon used to have a series called Banging Book Club.
In which Lucy would never have read the book!
Leena is definitely the best of those three. Lucy does nothing and whines in shades of beige about burnout and lack of inspiration and the bad light in her flat. Hannah doesn't seem to do much at all ever since she dropped her sex ed videos, podcast and book-writing and now makes videos scraping the bottom of the barrel. Leena at least is still reading, sewing, upgrading her skills and using her brain, if I don't always agree with her taste in books and her vague sense of superiority.
Leena is definitely the best of those three. Lucy does nothing and whines in shades of beige about burnout and lack of inspiration and the bad light in her flat. Hannah doesn't seem to do much at all ever since she dropped her sex ed videos, podcast and book-writing and now makes videos scraping the bottom of the barrel. Leena at least is still reading, sewing, upgrading her skills and using her brain, if I don't always agree with her taste in books and her vague sense of superiority.
I really like Leena. I think her output is a little bit more varied, and I think its been interesting to see her journey into the climate movement from complete beginner. Was the wicked premier a big buggy? Yes. Would I have done it in her shoes? Probably. I also like the insertion of an arbitrary deadline to finish a hobby project because otherwise I never finish anything 