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replace32titles

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I love the way she starts with "I'm a content creator and also a mum but I don't really show my kid online". No, you don't show his face but his back has made into several videos, I've heard him babbling in several videos, you've told us about every time he's sick and what he eats and what he likes and he appears in at least three thumbnails over the last year or so. You've done at least five videos in the last year with "as a mum" in the title, two with "motherhood" and at least another eight that are about having a child in some way ("with my two-year-old", "with a baby", "motherhood" or "mum" in the thumbnail etc). You're this close to being a mommy vlogger but you think you're "better than that" because you used to be organised and have a work ethic.
 
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Keely93

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That new video is really annoying. You can blur your kids face all you like but you’re showing him still in a dress and getting upset. As we know her husband’s sister it’s fairly safe to assume her husband has the same last name as him. So we know the kids first name and probably last name too. And you’re showing videos of him getting upset online. It might seem small and insignificant but 1. Kids don’t need anymore ammunition to bully 2. The kid just deserves some privacy.
 
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CirceRises

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she didn't know? that's genuinely so bizarre.... how can someone say they're a sex ed creator and then say that? they're not even hard words to memorise...
It was in one of her TTC videos where she was shocked that you could only get pregnant in a certain window of your cycle, ovulation. And then said “oh and there’s other phases of the cycle that the doctor mentioned but I can’t even remember them. So much more complicated than I thought”

And I was like … weren’t you claiming to be an educator on sexual health and expression? How can you not know this?

It’s follicular, ovulation, luteal and menstrual. Not that hard, Hannah.
 
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sunniva

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So good to hear she’s finally putting her feet up after all those long 8.5h work weeks. Must be hard spending a couple of hours a day fannying around reading shit novels and buying all the ham sandwiches in the Kings Cross forecourt.
 
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kateps

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When she says she just wants to get pregnant so she can basically avoid making any other decisions she really reminded me of myself when I was deeply unemployed and unhappy lol. I literally told my partner I just want to get married and have kids and be a housewife and not have to think about work....until I found a job that I enjoy and through which I find some fulfillment.

I understand how stressful and frustrating not being able to conceive her second must be -- esp. given her health stuff--, however, I think her mental health and attitude about the situation would be different if she was doing work she enjoyed and found purposeful. At this point it sounds like she wants to be pregnant more so that she doesn't have to deal with the repercussions of her career change rather than to grow the family. Her mental health would probably drastically improve if she put in effort to realign her career with her passion, even if that means finding a "normal" job and doing content creation on the side.
 
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kateps

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I'm enjoying her video about budgeting but I don't understand why she keeps attributing the loss of her income to having had a baby. A temporary loss is understandable as she was on mat leave, but then she went on to have a massive career change that so far has not paid off. Also she keeps mentioning the gender dynamics at play in her relationship now and it's clearly bothering her, but, again, she kinda dug herself in that hole.

It just reminds me of my father who claimed that having children hurt his career and that's why he didn't advance as much as he could have. Meanwhile, my mother – in the same field – ended up outearning him massively while doing most of the parenting as well haha. It's not the children, it's lack of planning and ambition.

Not saying Hannah is not ambitious, but she had no clear idea of what she wanted to do after the sex ed content. Constantly saying it's because of the baby though is not entirely accurate.
 
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replace32titles

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It's that day again! For the first time, we have an actual paid Patreon number so I've updated the previous years' numbers based on an estimate of 21% of Patreons actually giving her money. Max has gone up to £20 a month this year when it was previously £8.50, which is why the range is so much bigger. I suspect most people are on the lower end.

24-25 £98,250 - £655,000 depending on how much they're paying on Patreon
23-24 £91,882 - £260,333
22-23 £31,888 - £90,349.56
21-22 £29,089 - £82,420

So not quite as massively dramatic as I've been estimating for the last few years but still not bad for someone whose job is mostly just reading and talking about how productive they are.

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Millennial Pink

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When did she become so insufferable? She used to be quite down to earth, you'd think that having a child would have planted her feet more firmly on the ground, but no...
 
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kateps

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Really annoying to hear her complain about how her life is following the classic hetero script even though she tries not to let it. What has she actually done to try and counter that? She proposed to Dan which is a nice change to see. But she was earning more than him and still decided to stay home for 3 months with their child and then only go back to part time work after? If you don't want to do the household labour you should work more and financially contribute. If you aren't working as much as your partner you should do more household labour. If you don't want to be put in the classic female role of doing the household stuff then why cut your working hours so much??

As a lesbian my relationships just don't follow those same prescribed patterns so maybe I'm missing something but it's just annoying to hear the complaining when I don't even know what she's done to actually counter these expectations?
I think it's the cognitive dissonance from having done sex-positive, feminist content for a decade and then suddenly abandoning that part of her life to be a wife and mother. Nothing wrong with that and you can still be a feminist and politically conscious in those roles as well but she seems torn between that side of herself and her new role in the family.

The thing is motherhood is necessarily unequal. As the mother, at least in a hetero relationship, you will be doing more work physically and emotionally just from the fact that you carried and birthed a human that is dependent on you for pure survival. A good partner will support you and make your life easier, but it will never be 50-50 again.

I don't know how Dan's thoughts, but I would be feeling a bit weird if my partner was online blasting our relationship dynamic and looking resentful that I earn or work more, especially since it is for the whole family in the end.
 
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aplysia

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The cure to 90% of all influencer's mental health issues would be a boring office job that offers an daily structure and "I have actually done something!" dopamine rewards. Thing is, Hannah knows - as everyone does - that this would also mean to actually having to *work* instead of selling reading and playing dress up as a fulltime job.
 
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hollowcrown

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Saw a clip of her on instagram on Giovanna Fletchers podcast about how she got annoyed with a friend who dared mention about someone else being pregnant later even though Hannah had told her earlier that she was going through IVF :rolleyes:

I can't imagine being so self centered that you would think no one else can share happy news, she must be very difficult to be friends with. Would be completely different if she had shared she had had a miscarriage or something rather than just starting IVF. Similarly, maybe her talking about IVF is triggering for people who can't afford it or it didn't work for them.

So self centred.

Do I like hearing that my friends are pregnant? Actually, I often don't. It makes me feel behind in life and a pregnancy announcement at the wrong time can make me feel shit for the rest of the day.

Am I going to tell that to them? To rain on their parade and tell them to be quiet because I'm having a bad day? No absolutely not, I keep it to myself because it's unhinged and selfish.
 
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sunniva

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Watched her new video today and idk maybe it was the context of watching it on my lunch break during a hectic day at work but I was genuinely flawed at her happily admitting she only works 8 hours PER WEEK on YouTube and consultancy combined. What she is portraying to us as a respectable career is equivalent to 1 working day for the rest of us lol.

And tbh I’m just bitter because she obviously makes good money and still puts her kid in childcare half the week lol. But it’s the difference between the highly disciplined and scheduled entrepreneur she presents herself as and the reality of her 8 hours work week that I find embarrassing.

Her other categories of time were ‘learning’, ‘personal’ and ‘social media’ which I’m refusing to count as work lol. Except some brand deals I suppose but that’s likely 20 minutes a week when averaged across a year.

What does she do the rest of the time? Seriously Hannah what are you spending time on that you need 3 days of childcare for when you only work 1?
 
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sunniva

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Imo she wanted the split between the two channels as a point of vanity about her professionalism. She has always heavily overestimated how legit her sex ed ‘’career’’ was. Look back at her goals / future plan videos (there are plenty) and she seems to have been hoping to move into government policy consultation for sex ed in schools, sexual health charity work etc. Which was highly optimistic as she had no qualifications in sex or relationships aside from a few years of casual heterosexual sex in her early 20s… groundbreaking stuff lol. When she did finally recognise the gaps in her knowledge she had to invest heavily to platform actual experts and thts when the whole thing collapsed financially/egoically.

I reckon keeping the channel as a capsule of sex ed videos gives her a feeling of legitimacy and success. She wouldn’t want to cheapen that with her amateur fashion and lifestyle videos 😭 I guess she can also point to it as evidence of her social media management skills these days
 
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sunniva

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No way did she post that ‘I’m not pregnant’ children’s party food haul as anything other than to troll us after the PCOS / diet chat here 🥲🥲🥲

Babe because you’re reading here… advice not to eat carbs is not fat phobic and it’s not eating disorder fodder, it is mainstream health advice for women with PCOS. If you eat fewer carbs and exercise regularly, your insulin resistance will improve and give your body a chance to ovulate. This is evidence based and is the exact same function as the metformin you are prescribed.

But metformin isn’t a substitute for lifestyle changes, the two are meant to be used together.

I also think she slyly added the part about getting her period as code for ‘I’m not pregnant but I have normal cycles despite my diet’ because I commented about the 80 day cycle length she admitted she has. Periods do not equal ovulation and I say this as a woman with PCOS and regular but non-ovulatory cycles. She is 100% waiting to quality for NHS assistance. Which is fine. But just say that???

I took the rage bait I suppose lol but joke is on her because wildly unregulated hormones are horrible for your body regardless of fertility. Would love a PCOS thread on here come to think of it 🤔
 
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kateps

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I'm glad she acknowledged that it is strange to rely so much on Patreon as a lifestyle creator, esp. during a cost of living crisis, but I think saying "they're adults who make their own financial decisions" is a bit of a cop out. On the one hand, she turns down brand deals and affiliate marketing because of ethical considerations, but, on the other, is fine with people paying up to £20 a month for her to post generic lifestyle content and essentially promote a parasocial relationship with her audience? She's disappointed people are opting out, but also doesn't seem to consider what she's bringing into this exchange?

Also I bet the brands she currently partners with are thrilled to hear she hates them lmao
 
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CirceRises

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I’m not trying to downplay the difficulties and disappointment in trying to conceive a second baby but my god she makes it her whole personality and acts like she’s endured a war crime.
She has a husband, a job and a healthy baby. Why are you complaining all the time and acting like you’ve been hard done by?
 
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Conversation16

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Really annoying to hear her complain about how her life is following the classic hetero script even though she tries not to let it. What has she actually done to try and counter that? She proposed to Dan which is a nice change to see. But she was earning more than him and still decided to stay home for 3 months with their child and then only go back to part time work after? If you don't want to do the household labour you should work more and financially contribute. If you aren't working as much as your partner you should do more household labour. If you don't want to be put in the classic female role of doing the household stuff then why cut your working hours so much??

As a lesbian my relationships just don't follow those same prescribed patterns so maybe I'm missing something but it's just annoying to hear the complaining when I don't even know what she's done to actually counter these expectations?
 
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whataboutit

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I know it’s a good thing that people recognise the amount of work it takes to raise a child but i can’t explain why it still makes me cringe sometimes how people like Hannah and Melanie speak about it nowadays. I can’t imagine my mam (and that generation) in the 80s/90s talking about her day “as doing a full day of *parenting* without childcare” when it was just a normal day.
 
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CirceRises

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I haven’t watched her years (I stopped taking her opinions on sex ed seriously after she admitted that she didn’t know any of the phases of the female reproductive cycle or that any of them mattered when it came to getting pregnant) but I randomly got curious and looked at her channel.

She seems to be struggling with staying relevant or maintaining a following and I think the big thing is that she hasn’t adapted to YouTubes changing taste. I have a feeling she doesn’t watch YouTube that much or find new creators because she’s very stuck in the 2010s format.

And her thumbnails show that millennial blandness. Always with a big fake smile with a mundane title.
“I TRIED MARMALADE FOR THE FIRST TIME😃🤨” Bland colours, slow paced. It only works like that if you’re a mega star and there’s much less content on YouTube - which is how it was years ago.

It’s dated and boring.

The youtube videos that I watch usually have collages or aesthetic images at the thumbnail. Or something genuinely candid.

If she got more raw and real and not so “🤪😁😄😃😄😁😃😆😃😂😅” all the time, it might actually grow into something genuine. Also she’s not cosy to watch and that’s a big factor in “I’m a mum and watch me live my normal life” content.
 
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eilidhh

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Her new video... wow.... I got as far as her saying "fuck you, you don't know me" and closed it and unsubscribed. She'd maybe be getting less "judgey" comments about how she disliked being a parent if she didn't continuously make videos about how much she dislikes being a parent :ROFLMAO:
 
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