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It’s beyond sad that people can’t visit these popular attractions without being given the Spanish Inquisition on social media over whether they support JKR or not. Leave people be I mean jeez.
Has anyone seen Chaz Bono’s comments on JKR? (Cher’s transgender son). Not surprisingly he isn’t very supportive, but it also seems like he hasn’t actually read or comprehended the words she wrote which isn’t an uncommon theme in all this.
The rhetoric is always framed that J.K. is anti-trans / transphobic / killing transpeople. It’s never framed the way J.K. has set out in her essays; that she is not anti-trans but speaking out for women.
It’s very telling that speaking about women’s rights gets you labelled a transphobe.
Superdrug have launched a range of sanitry products called luna and on the box they have decided to use the phrase a person who mensturates instead of a woman who mensturates. I don't understand why they don't use the word woman since it's only women who mensturates. It seems like the word women has become a dirty word and people are too afraid to use it.
But the word men has not. Of course.
Right, Superdrug can go duck themselves too.
Right, Superdrug can go duck themselves too.
The arguments around this entire subject in the media are simply ridiculous. I would consider myself very socially liberal, anti-racist, and supportive of gay marriage and the trans community, but erasing women's identities is going way too far. And I don't care what the radical left says, but the majority of people have values that are aligned with those on this board.
I've seen lesbian friends get called TERFS for not wanting to date trans women, which is completely insane. I am currently in a relationship but even if I was single, I would not be comfortable dating a trans person, and somehow that makes me transphobic? What's next, calling out people who refuse to date criminals, overweight/ugly people discriminatory? It's like people are not allowed to have any preferences or opinions (which they are not even forcing onto anyone else) these days because it'll offend someone out there. GROW UP.
I've seen lesbian friends get called TERFS for not wanting to date trans women, which is completely insane. I am currently in a relationship but even if I was single, I would not be comfortable dating a trans person, and somehow that makes me transphobic? What's next, calling out people who refuse to date criminals, overweight/ugly people discriminatory? It's like people are not allowed to have any preferences or opinions (which they are not even forcing onto anyone else) these days because it'll offend someone out there. GROW UP.
Or they could have gone in the middle and said women and people or something like that?
On condoms would they put ‘people who ejaculate’?
Part of me wants to start a campaign against male brands and magazines and say they aren’t inclusive to me male transgender people and see if they actually bow down to the pressure.
Aberystwyth Students' Union bans drag socials as they are 'used to ridicule trans people' | cambrian-news.co.uk
ABERYSTWYTH Students’ Union has banned drag socials, after complaints students use them to ridicule trans people and be “as funny as possible”.
Drag has always been a contentious issue in the gender debate, it will be interesting if other student unions start following suit with Aberystwyth.
I am aware that there is a young autistic lad who used to get paraded by wokesters and trans activists, along with the council sponsored reading sessions for children presented by a drag queen. Will they too be revised under this new creed, I wonder?
As for the Superdrug thing, I believe they are aiming for a younger demographic so uni age and under. This is a thing for the youngsters who are still very black and white and “it will never happen to me”. Once the girls grow up and enter the adult sphere things take on a great deal more nuance, since some things only come with experience. Such as middle class identity politics have little place outside of Twitter and Reddit, and that they will find predatory heterosexual men will have far more opportunities to take advantage with little legal recourse. Rape / voyeurism / revenge porn are pretty much decriminalised right now if CPS charges and conviction rates are anything to follow.
Activists seem to be either naive and in some cases desperate for acknowledgement or cynical infiltrators who have their own objectives at play. The trans movement really need to start clamping down on their paedophile / MAP / PIE elements (not just Yaniv) and take a hard look at the alt right agenda they are playing into. E.g. stereotypical gender roles, isolating women and specifically religious (and frequently non-white women) from the public sphere by removing sex segregated spaces etc.
When do you think we will enter the Saudi model and actually need men to accompany women everywhere for protection, I think it will start by women asking their partners ”can you come into the unisex toilet with me and stand outside the cubicle, please dear?”
I’ve never really thought much about the gender debate and I’m sure it’s only become an issue in the past 5 years or so?
If you think back to the 80s/90s etc there were trans people etc back then and they never shouted about how they felt excluded from public toilets and stuff. Non binary wasn’t a thing, people were just androgynous. I don’t get why some people need a label for everything? Fair enough if you don’t conform to gender stereotypes, it’s 2020, but why label yourself as non binary and expect others to change their language so they don’t offend you.
This may be controversial but personally I believe that gender dysphoria is a serious mental illness. And if tiktok is anything to go by, it very often manifests alongside other mental illnesses as well. There are so many trans/non binary people on there that are always banging on about their problems - often they claim to have depression, anxiety, bipolar, personality disorders etc.
Yes I understand that times change and I hate to sound like a daily mail reader but the world really has gone mad. The Luna sanitary pad debacle is just crazy, if you look on twitter people are praising them for being inclusive but it’s just ridiculous that we are not allowed to say ‘woman’ as it might offend a tiny tiny proportion of the population!
If you think back to the 80s/90s etc there were trans people etc back then and they never shouted about how they felt excluded from public toilets and stuff. Non binary wasn’t a thing, people were just androgynous. I don’t get why some people need a label for everything? Fair enough if you don’t conform to gender stereotypes, it’s 2020, but why label yourself as non binary and expect others to change their language so they don’t offend you.
This may be controversial but personally I believe that gender dysphoria is a serious mental illness. And if tiktok is anything to go by, it very often manifests alongside other mental illnesses as well. There are so many trans/non binary people on there that are always banging on about their problems - often they claim to have depression, anxiety, bipolar, personality disorders etc.
Yes I understand that times change and I hate to sound like a daily mail reader but the world really has gone mad. The Luna sanitary pad debacle is just crazy, if you look on twitter people are praising them for being inclusive but it’s just ridiculous that we are not allowed to say ‘woman’ as it might offend a tiny tiny proportion of the population!
I'm so glad that I'm old enough and wise enough to have faith in my own knowledge and views, so glad I'm not easy prey for any foaming at the mouth trans activists who wouldn't agree with my views.There are 2 sexes/genders in this world - male and female, determined by mother nature herself. As you say, back in the 70s, 80s, 90s there were transsexuals and, as far as I can tell, they just quietly got on with their lives. The problem, as I see it, is that too many of the current younger generation feel they have a God-given right to be confrontational, aggressive and unpleasant to anyone who doesn't agree with their views - they don't seem to have learnt how to engage in civil discussion or understand the merits of agreeing to disagree politely. As for Superdrug, they have lost my custom by launching sanitary products for "people who menstruate" - as a WOMAN I won't be setting foot in any of their stores again.
I agree with this, and it is why I don't understand why transition is prescribed by some doctors as a "cure." Many trans people become even more depressed/suicidal post-transition (and as you said, many of them have a multitude of mental illnesses to begin with), and some regret the operations but at that point, it is simply too late. It is extra absurd in teenagers and even children (!), who claim they want to start taking hormones when they're preteens to prevent secondary sex characteristics from forming because they "plan to transition." This is dangerous, unnatural, and will impact someone's health for the long haul and I don't understand why some small but vocal population think this is somehow acceptable.
The teenage years are a difficult time and no one really knows who they are, you're still discovering your identity as a person and it's a tough time to navigate. A lot of people settle into themselves when they go to college and start working or whatever. I just hate the thoughts of Mermaids telling a confused and hormonal teen they're trapped into the wrong body as if the body they were born into is something to be ashamed of and needs tampering with. It's a scandal
IIRC, it all boils down to the people (I mean males) who campaigned for gender dysphoria to no longer be considered a mental disorder. Don’t ask me how and why it was successful, because
Transgender no longer recognised as 'disorder' by WHO
The World Health Organization has amended its classification of transgender health issues.
www.bbc.co.uk
If it’s not a mental disorder then the only “treatment” is to affirm, affirm, affirm and commence hormones and surgery.
Agreed. I think this is what I find most repulsive about Mermaids. The push that young people can identify out of the aspects of growing up that are challenging, and that it’s as easy as taking blockers. You can’t escape from this just by taking blockers or identifying as trans. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many young people who identify as trans often have other mental health issues also or are figuring out their sexuality. Mermaids isn’t the answer. It’s shameful that young people’s mental health support is so inadequate in this country and that so many of the services have been taken in by Mermaids.
I feel that in future years this issue will be looked upon as a healthcare scandal of the magnitude of the tainted blood scandal that is currently being put through a public enquiry. My elder niece is 17 and has two children (for that is what they are) in her year in the sixth form who are undergoing trans "therapy". I didn't really come into my own until I was 21, I guess my hormones had settled down by then - up until then I felt shy, unconfident and still immature. How any parent can allow a vulnerable and, more than likely, confused teenager/child undertake gender reassignment is beyond me and I strongly believe it should be outlawed.
To preface this, I love men. I have a great relationship with my father, brother, and partner and always had many close guy friends growing up so this isn't an attack on the opposite gender. But it's no coincidence that the obnoxious, vocal, and controversial opinions almost all come from those who are biologically male and even after they've transition into "women," they are still attacking biological females. These guys usually had very little luck with women pre-transition (if they were interested in women to begin with) or struggled to date in the gay community and were often unhappy as a result. No matter what gender they claim to identify with, they resent women and are now trying to punish us for it.IIRC, it all boils down to the people (I mean males) who campaigned for gender dysphoria to no longer be considered a mental disorder. Don’t ask me how and why it was successful, because
Transgender no longer recognised as 'disorder' by WHO
The World Health Organization has amended its classification of transgender health issues.www.bbc.co.uk
If it’s not a mental disorder then the only “treatment” is to affirm, affirm, affirm and commence hormones and surgery.
I was a late bloomer and didn't have my first kiss until 18, and my first time came a couple of years after that. I grew up in more traditional times but if I was a child born into the overly sexualized, "woke" world today, I bet some radicals would be telling me that I am maybe trans and uncomfortable with my body, when I was just not at that stage in my development/not interested in anything sexual back then, and they probbaly think I should explore transitioning in my teens. Completely unnecessary and potentially dangerous.
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Same, and I guarantee you that if I was a teen now I would be all over this non-binary tit. I would have jumped at the chance to have a socially acceptable excuse for my awkwardness and lack of interest in boys and dating, and to reject the pressure to be hyper groomed and hyper feminine.
Right?? With children and teenagers, you're often desperate to fit in or at least have some confirmation that you aren't "strange" and this would've been the perfect "excuse" for why I liked catching bugs, playing sports with boys, and preferred shorts to mini skirts. But I've since grew out of a lot of that (still play a lot of sports with men and like wearing shorts) but I also love dressing up in a traditionally feminine way, have a wonderful MALE fiance, and love wearing new makeup. I am clearly not uncomfortable in my body or sexuality but some radical trans activists would've put that idea in my head if they existed when I was a kid. And at that age, I would've been very confused not as a result of anything I felt, but because of what some people and the media have been telling me. Kids and teens are super impressionable.
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