Gender Discussion #96

[maytoseptember]

What issues are we creating by using sperm that isn't up to the job to create new life?

I have the same thought when it comes to IUI, which is when the sperm are so tit and incapable of fertilisation they are injected straight into the egg.

The problem I have with the fertility industry is that 1. Absolutely no one has the right to a child and 2. No one thinks about the physical or emotional wellbeing of the eventual child.

 

[Metropolis]

Trolls gonna troll

 

[I Madge so aye]

Trolls gonna troll

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Both with sunflower lanyards on too.

 

[Funny_bunny]

Delusional repulsive specimen.

 

[CarmenGhia]

He looks like one that I see sometimes through work. I'm not sure whether he's starting to detransition now, as he's just a bloke with a ponytail and he used to be a lot flouncier.

 

[i'm.just.highly.selective]

I have the same thought when it comes to IUI, which is when the sperm are so tit and incapable of fertilisation they are injected straight into the egg.

The problem I have with the fertility industry is that 1. Absolutely no one has the right to a child and 2. No one thinks about the physical or emotional wellbeing of the eventual child.

Jesus, I didn't know they went that far! Didn't they discover recently that normal fertilization isn't whichever sperm gets there first - the egg spins round to prevent that, choosing the one it wants? Which would make IUI some kind of....egg grape?!

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

I have the same thought when it comes to IUI, which is when the sperm are so tit and incapable of fertilisation they are injected straight into the egg.

The problem I have with the fertility industry is that 1. Absolutely no one has the right to a child and 2. No one thinks about the physical or emotional wellbeing of the eventual child.

That’s not IUI, it’s IVF. IUI stands for intrauterine insemination where they inject (good quality) sperm into the uterus. It’s not invasive.

There are lots of reasons why women have fertility treatment. It’s a good way of avoiding genetic diseases being passed on for example. Or do you think that people who carry eg sickle cell or cystic fibrosis or any other kind of genetic disorder shouldn’t have children?

To me, it’s a great way of wiping horrible disorders out.

 

[nothanksbabes]

I have the same thought when it comes to IUI, which is when the sperm are so tit and incapable of fertilisation they are injected straight into the egg.

The problem I have with the fertility industry is that 1. Absolutely no one has the right to a child and 2. No one thinks about the physical or emotional wellbeing of the eventual child.

It blows my mind, honestly. I'm of child bearing age, my partner is younger than me, but I have deliberated so long and hard over whether I should have children, if there's an unselfish reason to have children, if I'd be a good mother, if I want to pass my inadequate, depressed, short-sighted genes on, if I've healed enough from my own childhood (tit neglectful bio mother, adopted) to be a good parent, and so on, and yet other people seem to just have this sense of entitlement that they will have a child whatever the cost. I know I'm projecting my personal issues outwards here but I just can't comprehend it.

 

[i'm.just.highly.selective]

Not a parody. Really.

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Ladies, if you're ever around any of these lowlifes, Do Not Touch Any Of Their Belongings. Criminal damage prosecution is practically a done deal if it's on video, and it looks like this is their latest weapon. They're going to use any law they can to break us.

There was a case where someone abandoned their car on another person's driveway. The homeowner could not have the car towed away because the removal process would have resulted in a criminal damage conviction! I'm expecting that GL will get done for it...

 

[Bread]

The US/NATO knowingly trained a shedload of Taliban sympathisers in the new Afghan army, then deliberately left in a way that handed power back to the Taliban and prevented civilians from fleeing. Our government is 100% complicit in taking away these women's freedom.

Refugees are women, children and men who were unsuitable for/evaded conscription, or anyone facing persecution. An army is a group of dogsbodies who are paid to murder, pillage, grape or whatever other job is required (crowd control at Wimbledon, firefighting when the union's on strike etc.). The vast majority of current arrivals are an unofficial army used as cheap labour for capitalists and to help sow division and chaos in the existing population (Divide and Conquer 101), and are partly 'paid' with easy access to sex (willing or otherwise).

Source: my family were war refugees.

Where do you get the statistics for the vast majority of current arrivals? As I'm aware we royally screwed up Afghanistan by leaving, and left a large amount of men who worked as interpreters, etc. in great danger, particularly when their names were leaked.

 

[Bread]

I really hope he loses his case against Glinner (TBH, I'm not hopeful). He needs to start having some real-world legal consequences for his constant harassment. It will either make him wake up, or potentially, it will make him even more rabid!

He's a walking red flag. As are the older men who are using him.

Unfortunately I think you're right. GL does not come across as a stable man - mind you neither does Tarquin!

What a mess. I can't believe we're in such a state and that Julie Bindel has been thrown out of Pride. That's deeply upsetting.

Also where do these crazy councillors come from? Simon Harris and Jack Monroe have a couple of tame ones. If what the bloke says is accurate those councillors should be dismissed from their posts.

 

[petitspois]

I have the same thought when it comes to IUI, which is when the sperm are so tit and incapable of fertilisation they are injected straight into the egg.

The problem I have with the fertility industry is that 1. Absolutely no one has the right to a child and 2. No one thinks about the physical or emotional wellbeing of the eventual child.

A friend of mine who has sadly lost a newborn and had fertility issues since recently confided that she was looking at surrogacy. I was so shocked I didn’t ask anything further but I almost felt like I couldn’t express my feelings (which is that surrogacy should be banned and is exploitative to mother and baby) as I was speaking from the position of being a mother. I kind of felt like Priti Patel ranting about immigration.

 

[i'm.just.highly.selective]

That’s not IUI, it’s IVF. IUI stands for intrauterine insemination where they inject (good quality) sperm into the uterus. It’s not invasive.

There are lots of reasons why women have fertility treatment. It’s a good way of avoiding genetic diseases being passed on for example. Or do you think that people who carry eg sickle cell or cystic fibrosis or any other kind of genetic disorder shouldn’t have children?

To me, it’s a great way of wiping horrible disorders out.

Sickle cell can provide survival protection against malaria, so in some parts of the world being an asymptomatic carrier is not exactly a problem.

You cannot "wipe out horrible genetic disorders". Growing a living being from two cells is an incomprehensibly complex process, and miscarriage exists as a biological process for a reason. Things can always go wrong, including from exposure to environmental pollutants. Sexual attraction is intended to pair us up with people who have different genes in order to produce a healthy baby. The contraceptive pill has screwed that up by making women more attracted to men with similar genes. Arranged marriages have a much higher prevalence of genetic disorders than the general population.

There's a pensioner here who, when his wife died, came out as trans, started wearing her clothes, and announced he was having a baby for himself via surrogate, quite likely with IVF. He's blatantly a pedalo. Rodrigo Alves says he's going to have a uterus transplant and have a baby, which would necessitate IVF (and I guarantee there are some people who have been working on that one for a while). The serial providers of sperm all have a fetish for it. How many animals have, continue to, and will suffer in labs to enable all this?

We can't always get what we want. The buck has to stop somewhere.

 

[Salted Caramel]

A friend of a friend works for the national trust, and one of the cleaners (a man) has announced he is now a woman and mgt has told everyone to "be kind".

It goes without saying that this special kind of lady is keeping his pen, and so mgt have agreed he can take frequent comfort breaks to release the pen from being tucked up, all as part of him being "a woman".

I wish this was a joke btw, there is no punchline.

 

[maytoseptember]

That’s not IUI, it’s IVF. IUI stands for intrauterine insemination where they inject (good quality) sperm into the uterus. It’s not invasive.

There are lots of reasons why women have fertility treatment. It’s a good way of avoiding genetic diseases being passed on for example. Or do you think that people who carry eg sickle cell or cystic fibrosis or any other kind of genetic disorder shouldn’t have children?

To me, it’s a great way of wiping horrible disorders out.

My mistake - I meant ICSI. I mixed up the acronyms

As for wiping out genetic disorders via fertility treatment. that isn’t done with standard IVF and only done at additional expense. It’s called PGD - pre-implantation genetic diagnosis. It’s not done often.

 

[klarakluckbag]

A friend of a friend works for the national trust, and one of the cleaners (a man) has announced he is now a woman and mgt has told everyone to "be kind".

It goes without saying that this special kind of lady is keeping his pen, and so mgt have agreed he can take frequent comfort breaks to release the pen from being tucked up, all as part of him being "a woman".

I wish this was a joke btw, there is no punchline.

BIB: I do hope that the enlightened NT management remember that as well as being "kind" and pandering to a male and his sexual fetish, they also have to follow the law and keep their single-sex spaces safe for biological women and girls.
No female employee is going to want to encounter him releasing his pen () several times each day.

 

[i'm.just.highly.selective]

Where do you get the statistics for the vast majority of current arrivals? As I'm aware we royally screwed up Afghanistan by leaving, and left a large amount of men who worked as interpreters, etc. in great danger, particularly when their names were leaked.

What statistics? No documents = no data. Or are you telling me to 'not believe my lying eyes'? The authorities don't even have enough certified foreign language speakers to determine who's speaking what dialect from which country.

Are you saying all the lone men arriving are Afghan interpreters, and won't be used as slave labour for Uber etc.? How many interpreters did the military employ altogether? I notice you only mention men. How many were women? Where might they be? Oh, wait ...

 

[i'm.just.highly.selective]

This is Fred "Freda" Wallace. A deeply sinister, calculating and dangerous man IMO.

Oof, that was a hard watch. He's a sociopathic narc, and I suspect he's also had some training in interrogation and harassment (the Scientologists perfected this tit a long time ago). He knows exactly how to push her buttons and get her to say what he wants (she's effectively admitted things, whether she actually did them or not). The more emotional she gets, the more he's enjoying it. And it seems like she's alone/been isolated.

Ladies - as tempting as it is, I would seriously consider whether it's worth engaging with TIMs like these. They're predatory, incredibly calculating (it is hard to understand just how much even when you've experienced it), and their goal is to get you to trip up on camera. Unless you really know what you're doing, I would suggest filming them while grey rocking, "no comment" and safety in numbers (our ultimate strength!).

We need to choose our battles to win the war.

 

[Gomi goner]

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The language around this tit show drives me mad (along with every other aspect of it)!

As @TheMiceInTheShed said further up the page (and we've all been saying), "trans woman/trans women" is very misleading and confusing.
Sounds like a woman who thinks they are trans...

But also, this bull centred around trans "rights". Clutching their pearls S and M dog collars, the mentally ill hoot and hollar as if they are suffering from heinous crimes against them and deprivation of basic human needs.
To anyone who is not au fait with this tit, it sounds as if they are being denied the right to "just exist" , wear dresses, buy make up, etc...
But no, the rights they demand are invasive, perverse, and infringe upon the ACTUAL human rights of women.

For ducks sake, call a spade a spade man a man!!!

 

[Gomi goner]

The number of TIMs calling themselves women, I think this is actually not just delusion etc. but usage of an old psychological trick...

If we hear something repeated enough, and we don't have evidence to the contrary, our brain accepts it as true. Governments, advertisers, whoever, frequently use this to get people to think certain things, especially when there actually isn't any evidence to support them - typically short, 3-word phrases like 'safe and effective', 'illegal and unprovoked', 'transwomen are women'.

At the start of all this, a lot of people thought transwomen were TIFs. Now that more people understand that they're actually TIMs, they're swapping TWAW for 'we are women', and hoping that sticks instead.

Modern propaganda and advertising originated with Edward Bernays, and the trans brigade are employing all his tricks.

Edward Bernays - Wikipedia

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Yes! All of this
Also your posts afterwards @i'm.just.highly.selective and @TheMiceInTheShed about the language and wording.

I should have read further before posting

edit to add acknowledgement that I've come in late to the party again!