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That didn’t take long did it!It’s going to make me so angry to see this not called out for what it is.
I’ve archived this BBC article, which is standalone and not part of the live feed. They refer to him as a gunman and use male pronouns throughout. I want to see if they edit it later. Because their live feed is not using any pronouns and no mention if he’s male or female or trans. Just the name and ‘suspect’
This is the real link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy40znde9eko
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Before and after.
Earlier archive:
BBC link:
Minneapolis school shooting: What we know
Another 17 people were injured in Wednesday's attack, which unfolded as children attended a worship service.
www.bbc.co.uk
This has made me absolutely fucking furious. I want someone like JKR to highlight this.
This is MALE violence. AGAIN. And it’s being completely covered up because this disturbed MAN wanted to pretend he was a woman and everyone wants to pander to it despite the fact he’s carried out a mass shooting that’s resulted in two dead children and many more injured and traumatised. This isn’t even about ‘gender ideology is a mental illness’ that many on social media are saying. He was an angry, fucked up MAN.
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klarakluckbag
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I've posted on here about the antenatal clinic where I work (the one where the man walked down two floors to use a toilet in the antenatal clinic waiting-room
)We've had a huge rise in phone and bag theft in the area immediately surrounding this clinic. It's on a busy main road, there's a bus stop just along the street and the heavily pregnant women who enter and leave our premises are extremely vulnerable to this type of crime, they can't fight back or run away and we've had to put posters up to warn them to be careful.
We've not seen a single member of the police force anywhere in the area for weeks. Not a single foot patrol, no-one has come to check that our patients and staff are aware of what's going on, we've had no warnings, not a word. In fact, it's the local SM groups who are reporting the crimes. We do have those helpful notices on the lampposts telling us that "phone thieves operate in this area"...
Still...it's good to know that Dibble is keeping us safe from *checks notes* middle-aged comedy writers who campaign for women's rights
Funny_bunny
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I must be honest, there’s not a day goes by that I’m not saddened, infuriated and frankly baffled that gender identity ideology has taken the hold that it has. It makes as much sense to me as flat earthers. While flat earthers are (rightly) widely seen as crazy conspiracy theorists, men who think they can somehow magically claim to be a woman are to be believed and anyone who disagrees is bullied, shamed and cancelled. I find it hard to believe that people cannot see how very wrong it is.
Welcome to the new members who are posting or maybe just lurking on this thread. A couple of years ago, this was me. I longed to join in with all the wonderful, eloquent people on this thread and when membership briefly was reopened, it was my sole reason for joining Tattle. I just wish I was as good with at expressing myself as some of the brilliant posters on this thread.
Welcome to the new members who are posting or maybe just lurking on this thread. A couple of years ago, this was me. I longed to join in with all the wonderful, eloquent people on this thread and when membership briefly was reopened, it was my sole reason for joining Tattle. I just wish I was as good with at expressing myself as some of the brilliant posters on this thread.
FourSeasonSoupObsessive
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I had a lovely email this afternoon from Tracy Edwards 
I had written to her via her agent after the Telegraph article came out last week about the show about her life being hijacked by transactivists, and her response to the issue of men in women’s sports. Whenever someone comes out swinging in defence of womens rights, particularly women’s sports, I like to drop them a line thanking them and to say that much as they will no doubt receive green inked rants from lunatics calling them bigots, most ordinary people agree.
She sent me ever such a nice note back that I’m going to add to my ever growing collection
courage calls to courage everywhere!
If you have the time, its well worth it. The more women feel supported and empowered, the easier it is to speak up and the more we can work together to defend our rights.
I had written to her via her agent after the Telegraph article came out last week about the show about her life being hijacked by transactivists, and her response to the issue of men in women’s sports. Whenever someone comes out swinging in defence of womens rights, particularly women’s sports, I like to drop them a line thanking them and to say that much as they will no doubt receive green inked rants from lunatics calling them bigots, most ordinary people agree. She sent me ever such a nice note back that I’m going to add to my ever growing collection
courage calls to courage everywhere!If you have the time, its well worth it. The more women feel supported and empowered, the easier it is to speak up and the more we can work together to defend our rights.
Salted Caramel
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People were flipping out on SM earlier about him being misgendered. I mean ffs, he just killed kids. But let's focus on hurty feelings.
MaineCoonMama
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My opinion? Jack's just a bandwagon jumping try-hard with no real personality, it was inevitable that she would go down the trans route at some stage. Like she did with veganism, AA, autism, crafting, heart failure and so on.
TheMiceInTheShed
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This is horrific! And is effectively being brushed under the carpet.
www.bbc.co.uk
Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death
Valerie Kneale's inquest is told she died because of a "forcible sexual assault" while in hospital.
www.bbc.co.uk
MaineCoonMama
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So a man telling women to protect themselves is bad and must be punished but a man shouting punch a Terf into a megaphone and pissing all over the place is free to carry on? Got it.
Met Police chief calls for law change after Graham Linehan arrest
Sir Mark Rowley says officers are in an "impossible position" when policing online speech.www.bbc.com
"In his statement on Wednesday, Sir Mark said the decision to arrest Linehan "was made within existing legislation - which dictates that a threat to punch someone from a protected group could be an offence".
Sir Mark said his officers "had reasonable grounds to believe an offence had been committed," but that police more broadly had "been left between a rock and a hard place" when investigating online speech.
He continued: "I don't believe we should be policing toxic culture wars debates and officers are currently in an impossible position."
Sir Mark said police will have to "make similar decisions in future unless the law and guidance is changed or clarified".
He said he hopes this happens "without delay", but said the Met would be taking immediate action to update how it decides which cases warrant a police investigation.
Sir Mark said: "As an immediate way of protecting our officers from the situation we find ourselves in today, we will be putting in place a more stringent triaging process to make sure only the most serious cases are taken forward in future – where there is a clear risk of harm or disorder.""
MaineCoonMama
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I don't know why famous men, or any man really, think they have the right to say what a woman is.
It's been said 1,000 times but they don't know what the female experience is like and they never will.
It's been said 1,000 times but they don't know what the female experience is like and they never will.
chizontiz
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How do I stop feeling so bitter about all this stuff (gender ideology etc)? I think about it all the time, it drives me insane. I have enough self-awareness to know I have a tendency to self-sabotage, and can feel myself wanting to use this as a way to blow up all my relationships, because that way I won’t have to feel this tension in them anymore.
But I’m also trying to step outside of my own victimhood, and want to be able to accept that the people I love see the world differently to me. Good people are allowed to be wrong! And I’ve certainly been guilty enough of my own moralistic behaviour on certain issues.
I think a big part of it is there is a class difference between me and most of my friends, and they’re all straight. My partner has taken the brunt of all my angst recently - she listens and is respectful, but still disagrees because she’s loyal to her non-binary friends. It breaks my heart tbh because they’re all lesbians! And she tries to convince me that they need safe spaces because they experience ‘horrific abuse’ and then when I push her on what that means, what she describes is straight up homophobia. So her friends have identified out of lesbianism to escape homophobia, so what does that say about how they value her and her safety? How is she any better protected from the same treatment by their actions? That’s not activism, it’s victimhood and narcissism! I love her so much, I wish she could see all of this for what it is.
So how can I expect my extremely middle-class, straight friends to get it, if not even my own girlfriend does? I get so frustrated because they’re all so much more articulate than me and work in high-powered (and important!!) jobs so I think they think they’re oh so well informed, whereas I think they’re INSANE and have no idea how those of us living in the real world feel.
I think it all feels personal because male violence has shaped mine and my family’s life in really profound ways since birth. It feels pretty fucking insulting tbh to have those closest to me demand that I MUST share all intimate spaces with men. I don’t understand how they can’t see how cruel that is. I stopped going to NA years ago because they’re so male dominated - how is it fair to make ex-women addicts process the drug fuelled things that happened to them in the same space as men who committed those same acts? And of course the women only groups all have TIMs in who dominated and take over, and the LGBT groups are all men too! So when my partner says ‘where do you want X to go when they don’t feel safe in women’s spaces’, I want to SCREAM at her ‘where am I supposed to go when these spaces are supposed to be FOR ME!!’.
I have a tendency to cut and run whenever I feel unstable in my relationships, but I love my friends and want to do better for them. They’ve all done a lot for me over the years - I’ve literally sofa surfed with all of them at one point or another, they’ve helped get me into treatment etc. How do I stop feeling all this rage and conflict inside of me and learn how to live and let live?
But I’m also trying to step outside of my own victimhood, and want to be able to accept that the people I love see the world differently to me. Good people are allowed to be wrong! And I’ve certainly been guilty enough of my own moralistic behaviour on certain issues.
I think a big part of it is there is a class difference between me and most of my friends, and they’re all straight. My partner has taken the brunt of all my angst recently - she listens and is respectful, but still disagrees because she’s loyal to her non-binary friends. It breaks my heart tbh because they’re all lesbians! And she tries to convince me that they need safe spaces because they experience ‘horrific abuse’ and then when I push her on what that means, what she describes is straight up homophobia. So her friends have identified out of lesbianism to escape homophobia, so what does that say about how they value her and her safety? How is she any better protected from the same treatment by their actions? That’s not activism, it’s victimhood and narcissism! I love her so much, I wish she could see all of this for what it is.
So how can I expect my extremely middle-class, straight friends to get it, if not even my own girlfriend does? I get so frustrated because they’re all so much more articulate than me and work in high-powered (and important!!) jobs so I think they think they’re oh so well informed, whereas I think they’re INSANE and have no idea how those of us living in the real world feel.
I think it all feels personal because male violence has shaped mine and my family’s life in really profound ways since birth. It feels pretty fucking insulting tbh to have those closest to me demand that I MUST share all intimate spaces with men. I don’t understand how they can’t see how cruel that is. I stopped going to NA years ago because they’re so male dominated - how is it fair to make ex-women addicts process the drug fuelled things that happened to them in the same space as men who committed those same acts? And of course the women only groups all have TIMs in who dominated and take over, and the LGBT groups are all men too! So when my partner says ‘where do you want X to go when they don’t feel safe in women’s spaces’, I want to SCREAM at her ‘where am I supposed to go when these spaces are supposed to be FOR ME!!’.
I have a tendency to cut and run whenever I feel unstable in my relationships, but I love my friends and want to do better for them. They’ve all done a lot for me over the years - I’ve literally sofa surfed with all of them at one point or another, they’ve helped get me into treatment etc. How do I stop feeling all this rage and conflict inside of me and learn how to live and let live?
VeniVidiVicki
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We don’t know what Sandie and Upton said to each other but we do know:
- Upton chose to use a much crappier changing room than he was entitled to use
- the crappy changing room was much further away, needing two swipe cards to access, than the nice one
- he made allegations of professional misconduct against Sandie which were dismissed
- Sandie has an unblemished 30 years of service. Upton has fewer than two, and had less than one at Fife when he kicked off about Sandie
- despite her long and respectable career as a nurse, NHS Fife choose to believe the newly hired young man over the nurse who had worked for them for 30 years.
IcanSpellBéchamel
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Metropolis
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I’ve noticed we’ve got quite a few new contributors to the thread who only joined Tattle at the weekend. Welcome! It’s always nice to see new people on here 
Brian Butterfield
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From women everywhere, thank you, Sandie, for being so strongThe woman who won’t wheesht. She has so much strength but it must be so draining
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klarakluckbag
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When I go to work, I have to adhere to a fairly strict dress code (no jeans, t-shirts or "scruffy" items, no jewellery, no nail polish, hair tied back, etc) I also dress to ensure my comfort and safety, I have to climb stairs whilst carrying a heavy bag, so I don't wear high heels, for example.
If I was a transvestite, but wearing my woman costume made things difficult for me at work, then I'd probably think about maybe not wearing it then? I could be as girly as I liked at evenings and weekends, but at work, rather than having to attend endless meetings about which toilet I can use, I'd just man up, and dress to appease the corporate bods, it's what almost all workers have to do.
Some of us would love to go to work wearing a Megadeath t-shirt, ripped jeans or even a ballgown and sparkly heels, but do you know what? We can't. We just can't because it's not appropriate.
Wearing womanface at work isn't appropriate (or manface come to that). No-one has a problem with feminine men, or masculine women, or gay people or even non-binaries. But they need to leave the fetishes at home. If you're a man who wants to wear a dress, call yourself Brenda and pee sitting down, then good for you, we don't care. But you can't do it at work, we don't like it and we don't want to play along. It's about time that workplaces stopped pandering to these people. And started thinking about the safety and comfort of their employees who aren't transvestites...
If I was a transvestite, but wearing my woman costume made things difficult for me at work, then I'd probably think about maybe not wearing it then? I could be as girly as I liked at evenings and weekends, but at work, rather than having to attend endless meetings about which toilet I can use, I'd just man up, and dress to appease the corporate bods, it's what almost all workers have to do.
Some of us would love to go to work wearing a Megadeath t-shirt, ripped jeans or even a ballgown and sparkly heels, but do you know what? We can't. We just can't because it's not appropriate.
Wearing womanface at work isn't appropriate (or manface come to that). No-one has a problem with feminine men, or masculine women, or gay people or even non-binaries. But they need to leave the fetishes at home. If you're a man who wants to wear a dress, call yourself Brenda and pee sitting down, then good for you, we don't care. But you can't do it at work, we don't like it and we don't want to play along. It's about time that workplaces stopped pandering to these people. And started thinking about the safety and comfort of their employees who aren't transvestites...