My daughter’s best friend is a les and very much non gender conforming. She told my daughter that she contemplated ‘becoming trans’ because she felt so unpretty and unfeminine but decided to stay a girl because she is proud of becoming a woman. I am so proud of her. It’s not been easy for her to be out as a les (she’s 16) but I admire her strength and intelligence and confidence.
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So it's down to stereotypes. Rather than feeling she could still be female regardless of what she looks like or how she dresses, she felt the need to conform. Thank God she saw that it's not necessary.
I'm just watching Sonay Kartal at Wimbledon. Now there's a young woman who clearly doesn't like wearing anything "girly". No-one's suggesting that she might be "trans" because she's not wearing a skirt 
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.Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of comments online suggesting that she is. But those commenters generally get put in their place, which is good to see.I'm just watching Sonay Kartal at Wimbledon. Now there's a young woman who clearly doesn't like wearing anything "girly". No-one's suggesting that she might be "trans" because she's not wearing a skirt
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They probably just haven’t noticed her yet.I'm just watching Sonay Kartal at Wimbledon. Now there's a young woman who clearly doesn't like wearing anything "girly". No-one's suggesting that she might be "trans" because she's not wearing a skirt
Urrgh. Just seen this posted on the same business FB page that has been spouting a lot of hate to anyone not going along with gender ideology.
Of course Trans is in front. As for the others behind, ironic because trans ideology completely tramples gay rights, women’s rights, freedom of speech, but somehow, I don’t think that’s the message they’re trying to portray with the together we stand nonsense.
It’s going to hit her business, she’ll be alienating clients repeatedly forcing her views on something that’s so divisive.
Of course Trans is in front. As for the others behind, ironic because trans ideology completely tramples gay rights, women’s rights, freedom of speech, but somehow, I don’t think that’s the message they’re trying to portray with the together we stand nonsense.
It’s going to hit her business, she’ll be alienating clients repeatedly forcing her views on something that’s so divisive.
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This completely non-violent bloke was arrested by eleven police officers for wearing a sign saying trans was a mental illness. He was calm and non-confrontational. I wonder how many women elsewhere in London were being assaulted in public at the same moment with the law nowhere to be seen.
christ, I think what would stress me out the most is all the pc plods hanging around clearly not knowing what to do with themselves. So much stressful loitering. You’ve arrested me, so let’s just get on with it! Why are we just standing here!!!
I understand that this isn't the intended message, but I view that as Trans rights will flatten all the other rights behind it and remain on top. Ironic.
Exactly.
And why are men who are pretending to be women allowed to carry signs that threaten violence and death on actual women? Where are the police then? It's depressing.
I have to come here and vent a bit, sorry for the long post. I was on holiday with my parents recently and found out they are big trans supporters and I outed myself as a terf to them. I kind of suspected it as they both treat everything they read in the guardian as gospel and my dad is on bluesky but I always tried to avoid the subject. But they asked what book I was reading and it just so happened to be a Robert Galbraith novel which I told them and my dad went “urgh, that’s Jk Rowling isn’t it, I can’t stand her!!” I said “why not, I think she’s great” and he said because of her transphobia. So I said, “well I actually agree with her to be honest“ and they were both aghast! I said basically if you actually read what she’s said in her own words, she’s actually very fair and moderate and her position has always been that people are free to dress, speak, act, call themselves whatever they want but they don’t get to impose on others or get them fired from their jobs if they don’t believe someone can change sex etc etc…..
Then my mum chimed in and said have I considered people like her friends adopted daughter, who had a really awful traumatic start in life and had loads of problems but now she’s “male name” and she’s happily settled down with her girlfriend but where is she supposed to go to the toilet now!! (My mum used female pronouns while telling me all this, by the way lol) I think I planted a seed though as I said, “I have you noticed how it always seems to be the girls who have had traumatic lives and who are gay or just don’t fit in with what society says a woman is ‘supposed’ to be like, do you honestly think they all just happened to be born into the wrong body or is it more likely to be a coping mechanism like anorexia or self harming that a lot of troubled teenagers go through” And she did sort of go hmmm yeah maybe. And then my dad said that actually in his last couple of years of teaching (he’s recently retired from being a secondary teacher) he has a sudden influx of letters to staff saying “so and so is now using he/him pronouns and wants to be called “boy name”” and he thought it was a bit odd how it’s suddenly such a common occurrence when it never used to happen at all. He did also say though that he thinks the recent Supreme Court decision was ‘ridiculous’ and he didn’t understand what all the fuss was about with toilets, I said well it’s not just about toilets and the “fuss” is understandable when you consider that the vast majority of rapes/assaults are done by men to women which my mum thankfully backed me up on.
We ended up just kind of agreeing to disagree before changing the subject. I didn’t argue too much or give my true opinions as I just wanted a nice holiday and I didn’t want them to think too badly of me. I feel like I could have said so much more and pulled out receipts etc but it’s my parents and I love them and I don’t want to fall out with them or for them to dislike me. I’m so worried they think an awful bigot and a disappointment and will be gossiping about how horrible I am, I wish we never had that conversation, but maybe I planted a tiny terf seed and they might question things a bit more and not just believe everything they read on bluesky.
Then my mum chimed in and said have I considered people like her friends adopted daughter, who had a really awful traumatic start in life and had loads of problems but now she’s “male name” and she’s happily settled down with her girlfriend but where is she supposed to go to the toilet now!! (My mum used female pronouns while telling me all this, by the way lol) I think I planted a seed though as I said, “I have you noticed how it always seems to be the girls who have had traumatic lives and who are gay or just don’t fit in with what society says a woman is ‘supposed’ to be like, do you honestly think they all just happened to be born into the wrong body or is it more likely to be a coping mechanism like anorexia or self harming that a lot of troubled teenagers go through” And she did sort of go hmmm yeah maybe. And then my dad said that actually in his last couple of years of teaching (he’s recently retired from being a secondary teacher) he has a sudden influx of letters to staff saying “so and so is now using he/him pronouns and wants to be called “boy name”” and he thought it was a bit odd how it’s suddenly such a common occurrence when it never used to happen at all. He did also say though that he thinks the recent Supreme Court decision was ‘ridiculous’ and he didn’t understand what all the fuss was about with toilets, I said well it’s not just about toilets and the “fuss” is understandable when you consider that the vast majority of rapes/assaults are done by men to women which my mum thankfully backed me up on.
We ended up just kind of agreeing to disagree before changing the subject. I didn’t argue too much or give my true opinions as I just wanted a nice holiday and I didn’t want them to think too badly of me. I feel like I could have said so much more and pulled out receipts etc but it’s my parents and I love them and I don’t want to fall out with them or for them to dislike me. I’m so worried they think an awful bigot and a disappointment and will be gossiping about how horrible I am, I wish we never had that conversation, but maybe I planted a tiny terf seed and they might question things a bit more and not just believe everything they read on bluesky.
It sounds like you've given them something to think about. Perhaps someone on here can give you a link to a couple of articles you can forward to them, which might enlighten them!
Looks like they're at an orgy.
Just added it to the Wiki for the hell of it!
That’s kind of how I see it too. Trans rights pushing themselves to be priority over everything else.
That's it!!!!!
Thanks Brian. Look at him gakking his little chops off.
Smashing, Jolly-on. So they can’t consent to using apps that might have a bad effect on their health, but they CAN consent to taking hormones and undertaking drastic surgeries that will likely have a terrible impact on their future health. Got it! Well done old bean.
Let's hope they get hauled over the coals, legal-wise ; but it's the bbc . All their staff are probably all for it........What a surprise:
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But if their child wanted to get a tattoo or smoke a cigarette they would have immediately jumped back into their parent's generation and said that that's totally ridiculous and against the law. I really struggle with modern parenting to be honest and I know that this makes me sound like a bitter old fart but I really wish that society would wake up and realise that little children can't make their own decisions beyond what to have for breakfast or what they might wear today.
Whenever my kids were having bad sleep phases I used to say to myself 'does this happen in Africa or did it happen in Victoria England?' and if the answer was 'no' then I assumed it my my parenting at fault. I still think that now and it works.
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