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I had no idea about how les dating sites had been taken over by TIM's until I read about it here. When I mentioned it to my (gay) stepdaughter, she told me that she had met so many men on les sites, back when she was single, that she was sick and tired of telling them to duck off. (One actually turned up to meet her, despite promising that he was an actual female les. Sadly for him, my daughter doesn't take kindly to liars and although she didn't go into too much detail, I think she scared him off of actual female lesbians for a while 😬)
But isn't it sad that les bars and clubs are gone. We really can't have anything just for women, can we? ☹
Only the tit they don’t want like caring roles, menopause and so on…
 
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I'm currently on the job hunt and had a rather promising "meet the team" yesterday. One of the ladies introduced herself as "living with my wife", which is obviously more than cool with me. At some point the conversation turned to books as I had mentioned I love reading and was asked who my favourite author is. I frankly didn't feel able to say JKR, even though she is, as I'm not sure how that would be received. I've learned this three weeks into my last job, first proper team meet, where I mentioned that I enjoy her books a lot and was prompty told that I can basically duck off for "supporting someone who is against trans rights". One of the guys at the table mentioned he had never heard of that issue, I chose to not elaborate in that setting as I was so very new to the team.
Cue to a few weeks later, the same guy who never heard of it before told me that JKR is against trans people. I challenged him whether he had ever looked up what JKR actually said, of course he hadn't. He wasn't a nice person anyway, but it just highlighted to me how quickly some narratives are simply taken by people without any thinking, without any checking and further spread out. So, next time I'll have an interview like that, I'll come better prepared as I stumbled through some other authors.
Remember interviews are a 2 way street, I think that their reaction to your favourite book would be a good barometer as to whether you want to work there or not. You've already found out that your current company is not a good fit.
 
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Remember interviews are a 2 way street, I think that their reaction to your favourite book would be a good barometer as to whether you want to work there or not. You've already found out that your current company is not a good fit.
I know what you mean, but as I'm currently jobless and the market is horrid, I don't feel like i have a ton of options. tit as it is, but we are in a climate where expressing your opinion freely only goes one way.
Edit: I also obviously have no idea whether anyone on that call would have reacted badly or held it against me, I'm projecting a lot from my last job there. But as I need a new one, I didn't' want to risk it...
 
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Only the tit they don’t want like caring roles, menopause and so on…
And being treated like second class citizens. The so-called "transphobia" - being "ridiculed", being "scared of men", the "literal genocide" etc...what they don't get is that that IS a part of the real female experience.
 
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And being treated like second class citizens. The so-called "transphobia" - being "ridiculed", being "scared of men", the "literal genocide" etc...what they don't get is that that IS a part of the real female experience.
And that transphobia is a hate crime and misogyny isn't. TWAW until they feel offended and then suddenly they aren't women they are trans
 
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I had no idea about how les dating sites had been taken over by TIM's until I read about it here. When I mentioned it to my (gay) stepdaughter, she told me that she had met so many men on les sites, back when she was single, that she was sick and tired of telling them to duck off. (One actually turned up to meet her, despite promising that he was an actual female les. Sadly for him, my daughter doesn't take kindly to liars and although she didn't go into too much detail, I think she scared him off of actual female lesbians for a while 😬)
But isn't it sad that les bars and clubs are gone. We really can't have anything just for women, can we? ☹
Whilst I am not overly taken by my daughter's girlfriend, I do feel relieved that she isn't actually needing to navigate the les dating scene. It is just a minefield.
 
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I’ve been causing arguments in TikTok comments over the past couple of days. I don’t recommend it - too bad for the blood pressure - but my GOD the stupid brainwashed young women and their hot takes about the female only gym issue…

Sometimes I think we really are ducked if Gen Z all think like this.
 
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I'm currently on the job hunt and had a rather promising "meet the team" yesterday. One of the ladies introduced herself as "living with my wife", which is obviously more than cool with me. At some point the conversation turned to books as I had mentioned I love reading and was asked who my favourite author is. I frankly didn't feel able to say JKR, even though she is, as I'm not sure how that would be received. I've learned this three weeks into my last job, first proper team meet, where I mentioned that I enjoy her books a lot and was prompty told that I can basically duck off for "supporting someone who is against trans rights". One of the guys at the table mentioned he had never heard of that issue, I chose to not elaborate in that setting as I was so very new to the team.
Cue to a few weeks later, the same guy who never heard of it before told me that JKR is against trans people. I challenged him whether he had ever looked up what JKR actually said, of course he hadn't. He wasn't a nice person anyway, but it just highlighted to me how quickly some narratives are simply taken by people without any thinking, without any checking and further spread out. So, next time I'll have an interview like that, I'll come better prepared as I stumbled through some other authors.
I work in public service so I've found the best way is to keep your mouth firmly closed about anything other than work. Never tell your colleagues who you vote for or what your views are on sensitive subjects. If anyone asks me what I did at the weekend I just say that I went out with friends and leave everything as vague as possible. The only thing that it's safe to talk about apart from work is possibly a TV show you've seen but I don't generally bother with that either because I simply don't care what my colleagues think about anything.

I know there's people who will say this is cowardly but we go to work to do a job. I don't care if my colleagues think I'm the most boring woman on earth because I tell them nothing of any value. They're not my friends and I don't expect them to be.

Good luck with the job searching and if they ask you about books again just give a vague answer like you enjoy crime/romance or whatever. Don't set yourself up to let others judge you. Be really boring like me xx
 
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I work in public service so I've found the best way is to keep your mouth firmly closed about anything other than work. Never tell your colleagues who you vote for or what your views are on sensitive subjects. If anyone asks me what I did at the weekend I just say that I went out with friends and leave everything as vague as possible. The only thing that it's safe to talk about apart from work is possibly a TV show you've seen but I don't generally bother with that either because I simply don't care what my colleagues think about anything.

I know there's people who will say this is cowardly but we go to work to do a job. I don't care if my colleagues think I'm the most boring woman on earth because I tell them nothing of any value. They're not my friends and I don't expect them to be.

Good luck with the job searching and if they ask you about books again just give a vague answer like you enjoy crime/romance or whatever. Don't set yourself up to let others judge you. Be really boring like me xx
Not cowardly at all - it's pragmatic. We all have to earn a living, and if a term ( a term I now consider as a badge of honour) leaves a job, or is forced out, it allows a TRA to get a chance of getting in. Things are slowly changing. Just quietly place mark.
 
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Just sick of the press pandering to these attention-seeking bores. Another female gives birth. So bleeping what?!

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‘Malachi is both legally male and legally female simultaneously.’

Utter balls that this is even a thing. Normal service needs to resume PDQ before any more of this crap has a chance to become embedded.

It really is a load of shyte, isn't it?
 
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I work in public service so I've found the best way is to keep your mouth firmly closed about anything other than work. Never tell your colleagues who you vote for or what your views are on sensitive subjects. If anyone asks me what I did at the weekend I just say that I went out with friends and leave everything as vague as possible. The only thing that it's safe to talk about apart from work is possibly a TV show you've seen but I don't generally bother with that either because I simply don't care what my colleagues think about anything.

I know there's people who will say this is cowardly but we go to work to do a job. I don't care if my colleagues think I'm the most boring woman on earth because I tell them nothing of any value. They're not my friends and I don't expect them to be.

Good luck with the job searching and if they ask you about books again just give a vague answer like you enjoy crime/romance or whatever. Don't set yourself up to let others judge you. Be really boring like me xx
100% agree with this.
Call it pragmatism, call it self-preservation or whatever, but it's absolutely the way to go, imo.

As I often say, little did we know we would look back on what now appear to be 'the good old days' with fond eyes when people went to work to y'know work. We didn't need to know what fetishes our colleagues had, nor indeed their pronouns. And as women, we didn't have to worry about men using our toilets or changing facilities. Those were the days, eh.

Best of luck @Codiaeum hopefully something good comes through for you. 😊
 
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I had no idea about how les dating sites had been taken over by TIM's until I read about it here. When I mentioned it to my (gay) stepdaughter, she told me that she had met so many men on les sites, back when she was single, that she was sick and tired of telling them to duck off. (One actually turned up to meet her, despite promising that he was an actual female les. Sadly for him, my daughter doesn't take kindly to liars and although she didn't go into too much detail, I think she scared him off of actual female lesbians for a while 😬)
But isn't it sad that les bars and clubs are gone. We really can't have anything just for women, can we? ☹
Good for her!!
 
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100% agree with this.
Call it pragmatism, call it self-preservation or whatever, but it's absolutely the way to go, imo.

As I often say, little did we know we would look back on what now appear to be 'the good old days' with fond eyes when people went to work to y'know work. We didn't need to know what fetishes our colleagues had, nor indeed their pronouns. And as women, we didn't have to worry about men using our toilets or changing facilities. Those were the days, eh.

Best of luck @Codiaeum hopefully something good comes through for you. 😊
We didn't need to know what fetishes our colleagues had

Damn right!

I don't want to know about other people's private lives or personal preferences. That's their business and bugger all to do with me.

Just keep away from animals, children or people who don't want to bag you, do your "thing" behind closed doors, and you can do what you want as far as I'm concerned
 
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Can't go into detail without outing myself, but I'm pleased to say I sent an email at work today correcting a communication that referred to gender. I pointed out that in this instance the legislation is clear and it is sex not gender. Waiting for a response and doubt I will find out who drafted it, but it will have to be changed. An easy win due to the circumstances, guidance and legislation being unequivocal - thankfully.
 
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Annoyingly, I loved him in Rivals but that is the only time I will allow him any presence in my life.

LK can get in the bin with him.
I quote liked the bit when he got hit on the head with an award. His character was awful - and he loves and award so it made me chuckle.

Tried to spoiler
 
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Can't go into detail without outing myself, but I'm pleased to say I sent an email at work today correcting a communication that referred to gender. I pointed out that in this instance the legislation is clear and it is sex not gender. Waiting for a response and doubt I will find out who drafted it, but it will have to be changed. An easy win due to the circumstances, guidance and legislation being unequivocal - thankfully.
Nice one!

I am pleased to report that the Progress Pride flag that was being flown (without the necessary planning consent) from a uni building where I went for work a couple of weeks ago has been removed. I should be back there after Easter, so I'll know if it goes back up again.
 
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