Gender Discussion #80

[TheMiceInTheShed]

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My heart bleeds. . . .

Make up, you say?

And girls' clothes?

And yet they still could tell?

It's beyond comprehension.

 

[Tofino]

I’m seeing so much Harry Potter related costumes for WBD on my social feeds today. I see the boycott is going well

 

[Salted Caramel]

Has anyone seen this? Esther Ghey is releasing a book next week and this is an interview with her for the guardian. Brett was a very troubled boy and it seems nobody was able to say no to him. It seems she knew the kind of sites he was accessing, his online behaviour and how seriously it was affecting him but just let him carry on because she didn’t want to isolate him? Is it really that hard to stop teenagers from this excessive phone use? My child is still primary age so maybe I’m a bit naive to this. I know social media companies should do a lot more to prevent harmful content but where is the parental responsibility? He was a child! She also says her own mum called social services on her when the kids were younger. Just so many red flags here. I said this on the last thread but you never see trans identified people with emotionally healthy childhoods. Brett was no exception. Wonder what people will think of her ‘deadnaming’ him throughout the book.

https://www.archive.is/https://www....ther-ghey-murder-daughter-brianna-transgender

Wow, fair play to Esther for being so straight up about all of this. I admit I'm quite shocked. The trans brigade imo used the murder of this kid to attempt to further their agenda. It sounds like the Mum is actually being very self reflective and realistic. Her son was an extremely messed up kid who needed help. I agree about the state of his social media, I saw some stuff that has since been erased which was horrendous given his age and mental state.

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Just stay away. Easy. Don't fit the criteria, don't go. It is not your space so don't even go near it.

This is the thing. How many of us would deliberately try to enter a space that is specifically not for us? I wouldn't dream of trying to join a group for survivors of breast cancer, people fleeing war in Ukraine or for teenage dads. Those spaces are designed for a specific demographic - which doesn't include me - so I wouldn't try to join. There are plenty of groups for my demographic. Just stay away from spaces that aren't designated for you.

 

[FlowerOfTheEast]

When they say "living as a woman", they think we spend our days painting our nails and plaiting tampons or whatever. They truly do not think we're people with an inner life and they comprehend none of the work that we do. So male.

Recently saw a TIM post a selfie celebrating his first trip to the supermarket without any make up on. I'm an actual woman, who has been to the supermarket without make up on more times than I can count. Guess how many commemorative selfies I've taken? That's right.

 

[GlitterFluff]

CONGRATULATIONS - YOU DEFINITELY QUALIFY AS A REAL WOMAN NOW


Absolute melt

 

[BlairWaldorf86]

Bring back shame.

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

Being trans is self harm.

 

[bananabutter]

I go to a women’s only gym class on a Saturday morning at an independent studio and I really enjoy it. This morning however just as I was going in, a man stopped me and implied he was going to come with me (he didn’t speak very good English so it was difficult to make out) and I told him no and to leave me alone: I got inside and a few of the other women said the same thing and that he said he’d wait outside. Thankfully we all agreed to leave together after the class, safety in numbers and all that but he was gone.

But it just brings home a point that this is why I never understand when people say about women’s toilets/spaced etc “if men want to go in there and attack they will so you may as well let trans women in” no. The fact that this place was labelled for women is a deterrent. Simple as

 

[nothanksbabes]

I’ve been causing arguments in TikTok comments over the past couple of days. I don’t recommend it - too bad for the blood pressure - but my GOD the stupid brainwashed young women and their hot takes about the female only gym issue…

Sometimes I think we really are fucked if Gen Z all think like this.

Oh, same! If I had a quid for every time some hard-of-thinking dipshit called me transphobic I could retire, but they have no answer and show themselves up when they to resort to name calling, so I'm happy to take it.

I asked why trans identified men have the same pattern of sex offending as any other man and ~silence~, apart from one handmaiden who called it a "made up talking point", at which point another terf came along and posted a link to the statistics .

I don't ever think I'm going to change the minds of people who parrot trans propaganda. Many people can't or won't really think about what they're saying, but I know there are women who agree with us but are nervous to speak out, and I hope those people see me calling this bullshit out (complete with my name and face visible) and feel like they can also speak up. Safety in numbers - we're 51% of the population and they can't shut us all up.

 

[bananabutter]

Had a comment I made on a TikTok about the women’s only gym for “violating community guidelines”

My comment: “unfortunately, trans women are men who believe they are women and biological women aren’t to know which men are safe and which aren’t, so female only spaces are essential.”

What has the world come to when you can’t even say the truth…

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

Had a comment I made on a TikTok about the women’s only gym for “violating community guidelines”

My comment: “unfortunately, trans women are men who believe they are women and biological women aren’t to know which men are safe and which aren’t, so female only spaces are essential.”

What has the world come to when you can’t even say the truth…

I’m just going to post this anywhere and everywhere now

 

[MaineCoonMama]

I've just been having an 'exchange of ideas' with a male acquaintance on FB. He posted about how sad it is that nobody wants TIMs to play a bit of sport with the other laydeez.
I was heartened to see males in the discussion telling him why it's not acceptable.
I'm the only woman in the discussion so far, I wasn't rude or nasty but gave him the facts. He just came back with that old chestnut (quote) They just want to live their best lives (unquote.)

I told him they can do that by competing with other men and he's gone silent.
I don't thing he was expecting the response he got, out of the half dozen or so who replied not one agreed with him.

 

[ShopTilYouSlop]

I peaked my husband by telling him I declare myself to be a trans man and congrats!! You are now an out and proud gay man darling. And if he had a problem with that he was a transphobic bigot who refused to accept that I'm male with a male vagina and it was literal violence to suggest anything otherwise.

My husband never really got it until I waited for the crucial moment and then shouted, "I identify as a man! This is now gay sex because I have a male vagina! You can't argue, that would be transphobic! You can't dictate how to be a man!"

It was still a few minutes before he realised that yes, that really is the reasoning. Weirdly, this reached him quicker than the idea of me and the kids having to share a changing space with any man who wanted to be in there.

 

[Funny_bunny]

LK can fuck right off. She’s following the typical TRA of throwing insults at gender critical beliefs. It really is all they can do. They never can explain how they’re in the right. Just insults or being told to “be kind” No Lorraine, I am not a “nutter” as you so delicately put it, however, you sound extremely naive. The wonderful “Jane” the TIM school bus driver waves so many red flags. Probably driving that bus in a state of arousal yet you think a man pretending to be a woman is brave? I can’t bear these pathetic drippy women who can’t see the gender ideology movement for the misogynistic monster that it is.

'People with breasts are statistically less likely to receive bystander CPR than men, let's change that.'

Why doesn’t it say “'People with breasts are statistically less likely to receive bystander CPR than people with penises, let's change that.'

What angers me the most with a lot of stuff like this is it’s only ever one way. The misogyny is disgusting. They can’t even pretend it’s to be inclusive. What goes through their minds when they write this stuff? Do they even have a conversation about whether to change ‘men’ to ‘people with penises’? Or is their misogyny so ingrained they don’t even notice they are only erasing the word woman and men will always be men?

This is a perfect example of the misogyny. Men NEVER have to compromise any of their identity or being, while women are merely described as body parts and functions or as any random weird male that likes to get dressed up as a woman. It’s so fucking demeaning .

 

[nothanksbabes]

Again and again, the NHS make monstrous fuck ups in maternity care and mysteriously “lose” the evidence of who fucked up.

There have been two stories in The Times recently about babies dying due to mismanaged labours.

In one case it was a hospital with an aggressively pro-vaginal birth stance refusing to do a c section even when all the evidence pointed to one. In the other it was midwives sneering at a woman who’d been in labour for about six days that she wasn’t in labour, and they weren’t admitting her. Both babies were stillborn.

What unites all these stories is misogyny, more often than not peddled by midwives.

I had an early miscarriage, I hadn't long known I was pregnant (my period was two days late when I did a positive test, and two days later I started bleeding, so it was very early).

I called 111 and they told me to call the early pregnancy unit at my local hospital, which I did, and they were so, so rude. The woman I spoke to, who I think was a nurse, basically said "what do you want us to do about it?" asked something along the lines of, "were you going to get rid of it?" so aggressively I was genuinely lost for words.

I hadn't been with my partner long then and in all honesty I hadn't had time to get my head around it, tell anyone or even consider what I was going to do, which had become a none issue since was bleeding and in pain and it was fairly obvious it was over before it had begun. Obviously 111 advise hospital incase it's an incomplete miscarriage, you've got the dates wrong, it's ectopic etc.

I'm in my 30s and able to advocate for myself (and I work adjacent to NHS complaints so I know what's what) but what if I'd been a teenager, or someone more vulnerable or less clued in than me, who didn't know the signs of an ectopic pregnancy and I'd been totally put off going to hospital? In the end I was fine, but their attitude was just totally devoid of empathy. There are women who will have needed more support and medical care than I did and they won't have got it.

I wish I'd complained and honestly I'd slap that woman silly if I knew who she was. There are some absolute shockers working for the NHS, I wouldn't speak to my enemies with that piss poor attitude.

It's nothing compared to having a traumatic birth or losing a baby, but it massively impacted my trust in the NHS.

 

[Metropolis]

Handmaiden extraordinaire Lorraine Kelly has spoken out against us ‘nutters’ in Penis News and is annoyed that we are not adopting the #be kind approach when confronted by cross-dressing men. She cites her experience of having an AGP school bus driver (a man in slap and women’s attire in a position of responsibility over children not raising any red flags, Lorraine?) and refers to him as ‘the bravest person I’ve met in my life’. This from a woman who has met victims of unspeakable tragedies throughout her media career and covered the Dunblane Massacre. So shallow and sycophantic. I want someone to confront her about this.

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Pregnant women who so much as have a sip of fizz at a toast at a wedding are castigated

Louder for those at the back who were chatting during the presentation

How many of who have been pregnant made a point of watching what we ate and put into our bodies? No soft cheeses, no rare steak, stop smoking, stop drinking. But you want to pump your system full of synthetic hormones that aren't designed for your body in the name of ideology? Fucking go for it. No we don't know what it'll do to your baby, all that matters is that your manly feelz are recognised.
And hey when the baby's born, your transwomen wife can let the baby suckle his nipples for some delish nutritious chemical boob ooze. Even though mothers are told time and time again that breast milk is the best thing for your baby. To the point where a couple of my mates were almost pushed to breaking point because they couldn't get the baby to latch on and they were terrified of giving their kids formula.
How the fuck did we get here?

 

[IcanSpellBéchamel]

That’s exactly what has happened. He’s escaped justice but it’s certainly no loss to society.

He hanged himself. I'm sorry for his victims who will no longer get justice by means of a conviction - the updated story on the BBC notes victims aged three and five as well as the "under 13 year old". I might complain to the BBC about the pronouns, I'm sick to the back teeth of them mis-sexing rapists.

 

[Laylaybelle]

This makes me feel sick. The thought that you won’t be able to protect your child when you’re no longer here is something that is on the mind of every parent of a disabled or vulnerable child 24/7. To add this additional layer of worry for the parents is just cruel .

My partner works with PMLD people in a council-run day centre. The local authority wanted male members of staff to provide personal care to female attendees under the guise of ‘equality’. Normally men would care for the males, and female staff would care for the females. It just made sense.

Every man working there flatly refused to do this, in the interest of maintaining dignity and respect for the female attendees. The female staff felt the same about males.

If anyone argues against this there is something very wrong with them! Those individuals cannot consent or give their own views, for the safety and dignity of all involved the council finally backtracked.