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I do think he gets it, but his position on men with DSDs (like Caster) really muddies things. A simple cheek swab sex test would stop this before it even happens.
I’ve tweeted along those lines to him. Maybe more people can do that?
 
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In 2017 the BMJ published a wide ranging study which showed that men who are given a blood transfusion from a woman who has previously been pregnant have a significantly increased mortality risk. This is due to the permanent hormonal changes which pregnancy causes throughout a woman's entire cellular and blood anatomy. Our blood and men's blood is NOT the same.

For this reason, changing M/F markers on medical records is unbelivably dangerous and I really hope the NHS doesn't do it.
I'm not sure if this is across the board but I work in mental health and patient's records will state their gender (M/F) and also whether or not it is the same as assigned at birth. So even if someone 'identifies' as a male/female/NB , the record will state if this matches their assigned gender (biological sex)
 
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I'm not sure if this is across the board but I work in mental health and patient's records will state their gender (M/F) and also whether or not it is the same as assigned at birth. So even if someone 'identifies' as a male/female/NB , the record will state if this matches their assigned gender (biological sex)
That contradicts this screenshot I posted earlier which says that there must be no record kept of previous identity (I’m not saying I don’t believe you at all! but this is supposed to be the PCSE process). Do you have a large % of people IDing as something other than their natal sex?

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Keeping separate records of sex and gender ID is useful, for clarity, avoiding mix-ups and for understanding of a patient's situation. Having it on a record means that no-one has to ask repetitive questions either.
 
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That contradicts this screenshot I posted earlier which says that there must be no record kept of previous identity (I’m not saying I don’t believe you at all! but this is supposed to be the PCSE process). Do you have a large % of people IDing as something other than their natal sex?

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Hmm thats interesting maybe it depends on where the data is stored, different systems are used for different parts of the NHS so maybe that's why, as we have to get patient consent to store their data.
I wouldn't say a large % but it's mostly in young people 18-25 (no shock there!)
 
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JKR (Queen) will never have to do some sort of u turn or roundabout hedging apology on this. The tide is turning and India’s bewailing and screeching is a big part of peaking people so well done him. Can’t wait for Tennant to have to eat his words if he wants to keep working…
I absolutely can't wait for that, it's going to be marvellous, and I don't think it's too far off...
 
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Moira Deeming voted out of her party by a whisker.
It people me to tears when articles are written to deliberately mislead. Moira was at Let Women Speak, not an anti-trans rights rally. It's blatant tit-stirring.
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We need to start playing them at their own game. They refer to us as "anti-trans" so we need to start saying "anti-women" when speaking about them. Push the narrative the same way they do
 
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Like honestly, being called a Nazi for attending an event called "let women speak"?? How is the blatant misogyny not evident to EVERYONE
 
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It’s beyond sickening. The whole thing seems to revolve around silencing women and name calling those to don’t comply. Women’s feelings don’t seem to matter. That creep that wanted to be part of the still birth support group and the women who objected were vilified and banned says it all. That’s where we seem to be at. Sick, creepy perverted men are fawned over and accommodated over riding the feelings of women needing help and support. Not so long ago, he’d have been called out for what he was. I really hope the world wakes up to this insanity. It’s downright cruel to women.
 
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Moira Deeming voted out of her party by a whisker.
It people me to tears when articles are written to deliberately mislead. Moira was at Let Women Speak, not an anti-trans rights rally. It's blatant tit-stirring.
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Another lawsuit incoming. These people never learn.
ETA If this guy had even half a brain he would have known that it is unethical for him to have any vote on her readmittance let alone the deciding vote. He should have recused himself before the vote took place. I'm hoping the consequences for his arrogance finally push the message home to the halfwit.
 
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After Labour blatantly dropping their support for the WASPI women a few days ago, we now have Anneliese Dodds circumventing the Equalities Act and stating that organisations can allow TIM into single-sex spaces if they claim it is their own policy and not based on the Act. So sick of Labour and their lies and manipulation.


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Eh? I have not slept well and am operating on low brain power this morning, but I’m reading that as her giving companies the ability to opt out of the Equality Act if they want?

I really don’t think the law works like that. She’s opening companies up to being sued by women for having our rights under the act violated, isn’t she?
 
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Dodds is a woman from a massively privileged background who worked in academia before becoming a politician. She’s never had a proper job and bases her entire political outlook on theory not practice.

We know mixed sex toilets put women and girls at risk. Just today there is a school in Scotland where a girl discovered a hidden camera.
 
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Eh? I have not slept well and am operating on low brain power this morning, but I’m reading that as her giving companies the ability to opt out of the Equality Act if they want?

I really don’t think the law works like that. She’s opening companies up to being sued by women for having our rights under the act violated, isn’t she?
Exactly what I was thinking.

Can we do that with every law, then?

"Oh - it's our company policy to murder anyone who makes sh1t coffee when it's their turn, and dismember their body and bury them in the car park. No need for you to waste your time here, officer. I'm sure you have real criminals to catch."
 
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It’s beyond sickening. The whole thing seems to revolve around silencing women and name calling those to don’t comply. Women’s feelings don’t seem to matter. That creep that wanted to be part of the still birth support group and the women who objected were vilified and banned says it all. That’s where we seem to be at. Sick, creepy perverted men are fawned over and accommodated over riding the feelings of women needing help and support. Not so long ago, he’d have been called out for what he was. I really hope the world wakes up to this insanity. It’s downright cruel to women.
Absolutely this.

It sometimes crosses my mind too that not that long ago, men walking into women's changing areas and toilets would be escorted back out very quickly. Security called most likely, and they would eject them from the premises. How depressing that all they have to do is pretend to be women and everyone especially women are meant to bow and scrape to them.

And men are unaffected because it's never their space that is being taken over. Easy for them, and sadly some women to join in with the - 'live and let live. And it's not harming anyone.'

Except it is. Hugely harming. Depressing.
 
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India Willoughby is on one today. He’s made a four part short video series called something libellous like “The Utter Deranged Madness of JK Rowling” which is basically him sitting on what looks like a bus (an official day trip from the mental institution where he lives, perhaps?), holding his phone up at a stupid angle to try to make himself look feminine , and ranting about JKR like the misogynistic obsessed cunting p that he is.
It's great when he goes off on one. The more he talks the more obviously male he is. Crack on Jonathan.
 
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Absolutely this.

It sometimes crosses my mind too that not that long ago, men walking into women's changing areas and toilets would be escorted back out very quickly. Security called most likely, and they would eject them from the premises. How depressing that all they have to do is pretend to be women and everyone especially women are meant to bow and scrape to them.

And men are unaffected because it's never their space that is being taken over. Easy for them, and sadly some women to join in with the - 'live and let live. And it's not harming anyone.'

Except it is. Hugely harming. Depressing.
On one of my local FB pages there is a bloke having a strop because Primark is woman and all genders. It's not fair on the men!
 
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After Labour blatantly dropping their support for the WASPI women a few days ago, we now have Anneliese Dodds circumventing the Equalities Act and stating that organisations can allow TIM into single-sex spaces if they claim it is their own policy and not based on the Act. So sick of Labour and their lies and manipulation.


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So does this work for all of the protected characteristics? Sorry our policy is not to employ disabled /black/Muslim/women as we don't follow the Equalities Act in our company, we have our own policies. We only employ white middle class men (to be fair still lots of this happening)
 
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