Gender Discussion #68

[VeniVidiVicki]

BREAKING: TWO "Female Boxers" Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women's World Championship For Having "XY Chromosomes" - Reduxx

Two athletes competing at the Paris Olympics as “women” were previously disqualified from a women’s world championship for having “XY chromosomes.” Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-Ting of Taiwan are scheduled to compete in Olympic women’s boxing next week despite past questions surrounding...

reduxx.info

They won’t be the only ones

 

[Metropolis]

No Kirstie, I don’t rely on social media to tell me what I should be furious about. Just because you’re incapable of critical thought, it doesn’t mean we all are.

 

[Piff paff puff]

I’ve always wondered if it’s a coincidence that so many celebrity same sex couples always seem to have only boys when they rent-a-womb. Elton John, Ricky Martin etc.

Yes! Always wondered why this is? Every celeb male couple I've ever seen only ever buy boys. This is baby farming.

 

[Em_gardener]

I really wish religion could be left out of the gender debate. It just gives those who don't want to engage or don't want to admit the truth an easy excuse to dismiss valid arguments. We should be talking about how the opening ceremony was over sexualised, inappropriate for kids and offensive to women. Instead most of the criticism is focussed on religion or mocking a painting that has been re-enacted or made fun of loads of times before without the same backlash. It just detracts from stronger arguments in my opinion. Kirsty is right in a way - if people didn't care about the Simpsons doing it then they aren't offended by the reenactment of the painting, they're offended by the trans stuff so let's explain exactly what the problem is with the trans stuff and leave religion out of it.
I know some people will have been really offended by the religious aspect of it but those arguments just aren't going to convince anyone I'm afraid. It has to be fought on the grounds of logic, safety and science.

 

[soph30]

Couldn’t have a breast cancer support group without trans women WITH NO BREASTS right?
I know breast tissue in men can get cancer but can’t we just have a private space for traumatised women

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

Allsopp = queen of handmaidens

 

[Piff paff puff]

I really wish religion could be left out of the gender debate. It just gives those who don't want to engage or don't want to admit the truth an easy excuse to dismiss valid arguments. We should be talking about how the opening ceremony was over sexualised, inappropriate for kids and offensive to women. Instead most of the criticism is focussed on religion or mocking a painting that has been re-enacted or made fun of loads of times before without the same backlash. It just detracts from stronger arguments in my opinion. Kirsty is right in a way - if people didn't care about the Simpsons doing it then they aren't offended by the reenactment of the painting, they're offended by the trans stuff so let's explain exactly what the problem is with the trans stuff and leave religion out of it.
I know some people will have been really offended by the religious aspect of it but those arguments just aren't going to convince anyone I'm afraid. It has to be fought on the grounds of logic, safety and science.

I'd say that if religion can be easily dismissed and discarded as invalid then that's a big part of the problem. All of what I've heard on here is equally repulsive. The ball sack hanging out and the voyeurism, women impersonators mocking women, beheading images and yes as a person of faith, a Christian, the mocking of it.
From what I can remember of french culture shown via media in the 90's this is the same level of weird.

 

[no-no]

No Kirstie, I don’t rely on social media to tell me what I should be furious about. Just because you’re incapable of critical thought, it doesn’t mean we all are.

She really thinks that was a mic drop moment. Insufferable.

 

[Scotch Mist]

Another way to stop this nonsense, if they want to be women then they get to do all the bs woman stuff expected of the rest of us


And how fracking oblivious do you have to be not to have heard of this ‘stereotype’ before despite having known you were female from birth

How does this twit not know how old his mother is?
No doubt he's a selfish cat who spends all day thinking about himself. Hope his mum has some more treats of womanhood to offer him

 

[soph30]

Does anyone have a link to the relevant bits? I can't find clips anywhere

 

[Peachsquish]

Just seen

 

[The Wicked Lady]

On a lighter note, I was reading the post by @VeniVidiVicki about the threat to female boxers from male opponents in the Olympics. The next thing I saw was the advert with the 3 old geezers promising a flat belly in your 60s. I must be tired as I thought it was a photo of the male boxers in their changing room before a match. I didn't bat an eyelid given what we are being presented with these days...

 

[Metropolis]

Just seen

‘Harm to members of the community’. Get a bloody grip.

BREAKING: TWO "Female Boxers" Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women's World Championship For Having "XY Chromosomes" - Reduxx

Two athletes competing at the Paris Olympics as “women” were previously disqualified from a women’s world championship for having “XY chromosomes.” Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-Ting of Taiwan are scheduled to compete in Olympic women’s boxing next week despite past questions surrounding...

reduxx.info

They won’t be the only ones

A thread on the boxers

 

[Peachsquish]

Just seen

Labour’s war on free speech is just getting started

Its scrapping of the Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Act is an ominous sign of things to come.

www.spiked-online.com

 

[Lynn’ssnazzycardigan]

I don’t know how to link to twitter/x so have just done a screenshot. I’ve seen a few posts from this ftm, it’s so horrible what she is going through but seems there’s no going back, and going forward means more pain and surgery. It’s heartbreaking.
I’ll spoiler it, it’s only a picture of a hand but it is pretty grim

Spoiler: Picture

 

[VC10]

Allsopp = queen of handmaidens

She really is an entitled bleep.
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Another way to stop this nonsense, if they want to be women then they get to do all the bs woman stuff expected of the rest of us


And how fracking oblivious do you have to be not to have heard of this ‘stereotype’ before despite having known you were female from birth

" idk how old she is ".......

bleeping bleep.

 

[ThisIsMyGuiltyPleasure]

Just seen

FFS how pathetic.

 

[Traazers]

Had a GC rant with my best friend today, that was cathartic. If not for her, my partner, and this thread, I'd honestly think I were going mad.

Trans pride in London today. Why exactly do they need their own? I know they'll be all over Brighton pride next week.

 

[emmer_moans]

Just seen

Labour’s war on free speech is just getting started

Its scrapping of the Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Act is an ominous sign of things to come.

www.spiked-online.com

We have people struggling to afford to eat properly in this country but Labour decides it is more important to focus on stripping this?!

 

[Metropolis]

I really wish religion could be left out of the gender debate. It just gives those who don't want to engage or don't want to admit the truth an easy excuse to dismiss valid arguments. We should be talking about how the opening ceremony was over sexualised, inappropriate for kids and offensive to women. Instead most of the criticism is focussed on religion or mocking a painting that has been re-enacted or made fun of loads of times before without the same backlash. It just detracts from stronger arguments in my opinion. Kirsty is right in a way - if people didn't care about the Simpsons doing it then they aren't offended by the reenactment of the painting, they're offended by the trans stuff so let's explain exactly what the problem is with the trans stuff and leave religion out of it.
I know some people will have been really offended by the religious aspect of it but those arguments just aren't going to convince anyone I'm afraid. It has to be fought on the grounds of logic, safety and science.

For me, it’s about showing the hypocrisy of the established church and other prominent protestant denominations (eg Methodism) in supporting gender ideology, even when it rides roughshod over their doctrine and mocks their religious icons. The Arch Bishop of Canterbury has signed off guidance which states, a transgender man is someone 'who was assigned female at birth but identifies and lives as a man', and a transgender woman 'was assigned male at birth but identifies and lives as a woman'. The Methodist church near me has a progress sticker on their front door all year round, yet nothing to demonstrate their solidarity with any other group.

Through their acceptance of gender ideology, they are affirming that these individuals should not be accepted for the way they born and that their desire to mutilate perfectly healthy bodies should be celebrated. Looking at it another way, if they accept this premise, does it also mean that they should not accept people born with disabilities? We already know that the CoE doesn’t view gay people’s relationships as on a par with straight people’s, yet people are born gay; they are not seeking to change themselves or the way anyone else sees them. Maybe transing children who would have grown up to be gay is more acceptable to them.