Gender Discussion #63

[Lynn’ssnazzycardigan]

Oh it’s obvious mate, don’t you worry about that

Fawning, internalised misogyny and sinister threats in the comments? Of course! Waiting on the group name change to Trans Women Are Top society (TWATs for short) so they can all be their true authentic selves and not pretend to be dull women any more.

 

[Tofino]

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Oh it’s obvious mate, don’t you worry about that

Fawning, internalised misogyny and sinister threats in the comments? Of course! Waiting on the group name change to Trans Women Are Top society (TWATs for short) so they can all be their true authentic selves and not pretend to be dull women any more.
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‘wannabe woman’ is a term I can get on board with. They are nothing more than wannabes.

 

[Ruby’s mum]

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Oh it’s obvious mate, don’t you worry about that

Fawning, internalised misogyny and sinister threats in the comments? Of course! Waiting on the group name change to Trans Women Are Top society (TWATs for short) so they can all be their true authentic selves and not pretend to be dull women any more.
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You can want it all you like mate, it’s never going to happen. Please can we go back to calling these blokes what they really are? Transvestites.

 

[Scotch Mist]

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Oh it’s obvious mate, don’t you worry about that

Fawning, internalised misogyny and sinister threats in the comments? Of course! Waiting on the group name change to Trans Women Are Top society (TWATs for short) so they can all be their true authentic selves and not pretend to be dull women any more.
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Facebook is absolutely not worth engaging with anymore than twatter because it's full of self righteous morons. I don't bother commenting on anything now as my account is under my real name and I don't want to encourage idiots to attack me. I just can't be bothered to argue with awful people that I don't know in real life.
That threat to 'silence someone' who doesn't agree should be reported.

Obviously that's now a club for dull trans women and their hand maidens so best to check out and leave. I like videos of UFOs and mysterious stuff like that so joined a group to look at them. That was a waste of time too because its full of people either making stupid jokes or dismissing any video that's put up and being really sceptical and nasty to anyone who does believe. As I said the self righteous cunts are everywhere.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Banned Newcastle United fan raises £15,000 to sue - BBC News

Linzi Smith's lawyer says the club's actions are a "huge overreach" in to her personal life.

www.bbc.co.uk

I was interested to see this on BBC, and that she has now revealed what she is suing for. The PL and NUFC have allegedly been spying on and doxxed her. (Tbh I stop following her as she was retweeting some borderline stuff around St. George’s Day but) I feel this case could be important and I’m still disgusted at what has happened so far.

I saw this earlier today too, and came here to post it.
I’ve been trying to find the tweets to see how ‘offensive’ they are, but I’ve only found one about trans ideology being a Nazi agenda, so not sure if the ‘hate’ element is feasible or not in relation to other comments.

Even so, the surveillance aspect is bizarre. You can’t tell me that out of tens of thousands of season-ticket holders at any given football club, you won’t find a substantial amount of ‘questionable’ or ‘problematic’ social media output/opinions. Nor that a football club has the resources to screen everyone in this way. So she’s clearly been specifically targeted.

 

[Jc456]

Why on earth are parents enabling this utter bollocks with their kids to go ahead? It's bad enough the ones pushing their kids into social transitioning but going along with them pretending to be an animal, and then bullying the school into accepting it is absolutely ridiculous. Why are their parents not totally embarrassed by this behavior because they should be. Why aren't they parenting their child and setting proper boundaries?

I completely agree. Another comment was their child is autistic with PDA and it's their way to demand avoid. I know they have additional needs but they still need boundaries and to be told they aren't a cat.
It worries me if the schools are having to jump hoops to accommodate a child thinking they're an animal then the trans stuff is just going to carry on because at least they think they're human if that makes sense.
I feel so sorry for these kids

 

[Metropolis]

Nation-wide protests in Australia re violence against women. Calls for the situation to be declared a national emergency.

Protests against 'epidemic of male violence' kick off around country — ABC News

In short: Groups working to end domestic violence are calling for gender-based violence to be declared a national emergency. Rallies are taking place in Sydney and Adelaide today with more planned across other Australian cities and regions tomorrow. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and...

apple.news

There is a quote from one of the women who made a speech (a survivor) in the article:
"All women should be free and safe. That of course includes women of colour, women with disabilities, trans women, sex workers, elder women, migrant women, all women."

I’m sick of having to include men whenever concerns for women's safety are highlighted. The very fact that she has referred to ‘trans women’ for me makes a mockery of what they are protesting about. We all know that in Australia, authorities are bending over backwards to promote TWAW, fetishes and all. They are protesting violence against women on one hand, yet on the other would accommodate perverts with ill intentions in women’s spaces and women are told to shut up if they complain.

It’s the same here - an acknowledged epidemic of violence against women, yet no one joining the dots between the rise in misogyny and the increase in the number of men saying they’re women in order to humiliate and harm females. I was watching the Mayoral debate for the Mayor of London the other day and Khan was talking about the need for better education and interventions to curb misogynistic violence, yet three out of four of the candidates were TWAW and the two men (Khan and the Lib Dem candidate) interrupted and spoke over the female Tory candidate and addressed her with a patronising tone. Few men seem to realise that by accepting the TWAW mantra and pushing for the rights of males to access women’s spaces, they are actually inherently misogynistic because they perceive the desires of males as more important than the safety of females.

 

[Satisfying Click]

Few men seem to realise that by accepting the TWAW mantra and pushing for the rights of males to access women’s spaces, they are actually inherently misogynistic because they perceive the desires of males as more important than the safety of females.

I think some of them also know this, deep down, and are actively enjoying using it as a legitimate means to kick women under the table. I have some male acquaintances that I used to hang out with some years ago - the type that would think of themselves as 'male feminists' - they were first in line to mock and sneer at women who wanted to protect single sex spaces, "I bet the toilet in your home is gender neutral! "

It doesn't take much to scratch beneath the surface and see what a lot of them really think of us. Andrew Tate et al has just emboldened many of them. It's not only women's spaces I worry about now, but I fear for my nieces and the world they're growing up in, it's a much more hostile and confusing place. Oh, and utterly pornified. The 80s were by no means perfect, but in comparison it feels like a utopia now.

 

[ChastityDingle]

There is a quote from one of the women who made a speech (a survivor) in the article:
"All women should be free and safe. That of course includes women of colour, women with disabilities, trans women, sex workers, elder women, migrant women, all women."

I’m sick of having to include men whenever concerns for women's safety are highlighted. The very fact that she has referred to ‘trans women’ for me makes a mockery of what they are protesting about. We all know that in Australia, authorities are bending over backwards to promote TWAW, fetishes and all. They are protesting violence against women on one hand, yet on the other would accommodate perverts with ill intentions in women’s spaces and women are told to shut up if they complain.

It’s the same here - an acknowledged epidemic of violence against women, yet no one joining the dots between the rise in misogyny and the increase in the number of men saying they’re women in order to humiliate and harm females. I was watching the Mayoral debate for the Mayor of London the other day and Khan was talking about the need for better education and interventions to curb misogynistic violence, yet three out of four of the candidates were TWAW and the two men (Khan and the Lib Dem candidate) interrupted and spoke over the female Tory candidate and addressed her with a patronising tone. Few men seem to realise that by accepting the TWAW mantra and pushing for the rights of males to access women’s spaces, they are actually inherently misogynistic because they perceive the desires of males as more important than the safety of females.

I hadn't actually opened the article, (had bookmarked it to read it later), but that was exactly what crossed my mind, when I saw the title of it.
How likely is it that the stunning and brave men dressed as women, are included. And there they are. Oh FFS. Will this madness ever end!

 

[usefullyuseless]

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Oh it’s obvious mate, don’t you worry about that

Fawning, internalised misogyny and sinister threats in the comments? Of course! Waiting on the group name change to Trans Women Are Top society (TWATs for short) so they can all be their true authentic selves and not pretend to be dull women any more.
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One poster equating being left-handed with being an AGP? What the actual duck? These people are so wilfully stupid.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

One poster equating being left-handed with being an AGP? What the actual duck? These people are so wilfully stupid.

Well, the Latin word for left/left handed is 'sinister' so they're bang on the money there.

 

[Piff paff puff]

For anyone who needs it. https://freespeechunion.org/

 

[threeSMEGfridges]

There is a quote from one of the women who made a speech (a survivor) in the article:
"All women should be free and safe. That of course includes women of colour, women with disabilities, trans women, sex workers, elder women, migrant women, all women."

I’m sick of having to include men whenever concerns for women's safety are highlighted. The very fact that she has referred to ‘trans women’ for me makes a mockery of what they are protesting about. We all know that in Australia, authorities are bending over backwards to promote TWAW, fetishes and all. They are protesting violence against women on one hand, yet on the other would accommodate perverts with ill intentions in women’s spaces and women are told to shut up if they complain.

It’s the same here - an acknowledged epidemic of violence against women, yet no one joining the dots between the rise in misogyny and the increase in the number of men saying they’re women in order to humiliate and harm females. I was watching the Mayoral debate for the Mayor of London the other day and Khan was talking about the need for better education and interventions to curb misogynistic violence, yet three out of four of the candidates were TWAW and the two men (Khan and the Lib Dem candidate) interrupted and spoke over the female Tory candidate and addressed her with a patronising tone. Few men seem to realise that by accepting the TWAW mantra and pushing for the rights of males to access women’s spaces, they are actually inherently misogynistic because they perceive the desires of males as more important than the safety of females.

given how many cases there are of “TransWomen” (or people using the identity) assaulting women having to include them is deeply hurtful

 

[Mugglewump]

Just seen in a clothing group I'm in.
No, we really don't need that design.
As I've said before, none of my LGB friends support this shitshow.

 

[klarakluckbag]

given how many cases there are of “TransWomen” (or people using the identity) assaulting women having to include them is deeply hurtful

It's also insulting to imply that men who dress as women are being assaulted for the same reasons as actual women.
Women are attacked by men, in vast numbers, simply because we are smaller and weaker. We're almost always at a physical disadvantage. TIM's do not have that disadvantage, no matter how much make-up they wear, or how much HRT they take, they're still taller, heavier and stronger than women. So to go on marches, to pretend that they suffer the same fear, the same dread, the same horror, that us actual women do when faced with a violent predatory male, is the biggest insult of all. Can't they go on their own marches? It's not like they don't have enough, what with Pride, Trans Day of Visibility, Trans Day of Remembrance, etc, etc

 

[Avenged7Fold]

It's not just larger businesses that do this to people who complain.

I know personally a lass who likes her cake. Specifically, "Bruce" from Get Baked in Wakefield. It's a big multi-layered slice of chocolate on chocolate cake and it went viral or something and was limited to one per customer. Well. Her old man is wheelchair bound and when she wasn't allowed to buy one for her and one for him because he couldn't get his wheelchair into the shop because narrow doors, she complained. And rightly so. Disability discrimination and all that, and then also posted on Reddit about it.

This allowed Get Baked, because they're the sort of people who interminably google themselves, to go through all her previous Reddit posts and found stuff that they deemed "transphobic" because she doesn't believe the TWAW shibboleths and "racist" because she doesn't agree with uncontrolled mass migration. Their response was to:

1. Ban her from the store forever.

2. Report her Reddit posts to West Yorkshire Police (home of the Lesbian Nana).

3. Make a donation allegedly in her name to a charity "to assist you in repenting for your atrocious behaviour." Their words not mine.

4. Threaten to sue for harassment if she continued to contact them.

Now how bleeping petty is that. Had a valid complaint, but because she was morally unfit, it wasn't made out. Going through complainants' social media just to smear them. That's low. That's lower than Himdia's nutsack in 10 years' time, in fact. If I did that to disgruntled clients in my line of work I would be struck off and I would bloody deserve it.

I suck at making cakes. But were I in her shoes I would have learned to just so I could have put up a stall with my own superior version of Bruce right outside their front door at a lower price for sale in green white and purple boxes, and defied them to sue.

Needless to say, there's another business to put on the tit list.

Get Baked are arseholes. They used to have a burger place and we went once. Burgers were ok but their whole marketing was based around drug use (get baked) and being controversial for the sake of it. They are rude to customers online and just generally dicks. The student left love them though.

 

[Mugglewump]

Give me strength

 

[Tofino]

Give me strength

But it’s ok and inoffensive to change the meaning of woman. Ok then

 

[Mugglewump]

But it’s ok and inoffensive to change the meaning of woman. Ok then

Exactly.

 

[ChastityDingle]

It's also insulting to imply that men who dress as women are being assaulted for the same reasons as actual women.
Women are attacked by men, in vast numbers, simply because we are smaller and weaker. We're almost always at a physical disadvantage. TIM's do not have that disadvantage, no matter how much make-up they wear, or how much HRT they take, they're still taller, heavier and stronger than women. So to go on marches, to pretend that they suffer the same fear, the same dread, the same horror, that us actual women do when faced with a violent predatory male, is the biggest insult of all. Can't they go on their own marches? It's not like they don't have enough, what with Pride, Trans Day of Visibility, Trans Day of Remembrance, etc, etc

100% this.

I think the reason I immediately suspected that the stunning and brave men in dresses were included, was because of the fact that if it was just actual, mere women, it wouldn't count.

It's only if the men dressed as women are being assaulted (if they are ) that it matters! We don't matter at all, why wouldn't we move aside and make space for these deluded men!