If there’s two words I loathe at the moment it’s, “Be kind”. Basic being kind isn’t the issue. There’s no need for people to be nasty or hurt anyones feelings deliberately, but this isn’t what it means. It’s basically telling women to put up or shut up. Put their feelings and emotions second, usually to accommodate men and not upset them, however awful they are. It’s something that’s always struck me as weird. Men are portrayed as “big, tough, strong etc” yet women pander and mollycoddle them like little babies. I’ve never, ever felt less important than men, and I’m far from a confident person. I’m a terf and proud of it.
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Third wave feminism convinced us we had it all. Sex work was empowering, be kind and include trans women, be a girl boss with two side hustles, make a million on onlyfans, freeze your eggs until later, hire a surrogate to keep your career and your figure. I’m not saying that we should go back to the fifties at all, but looking at that list did we not see it was unsustainable and also was it really what we wanted? or do all of those things in some way benefit men?
fourth wave feminism will be different. The only silver lining I see in this is it has forced some women to remember that we are stronger together and to try and fight for our collective rights. Every day more women see the problems with men in our spaces. It’s not hopeless.
fourth wave feminism will be different. The only silver lining I see in this is it has forced some women to remember that we are stronger together and to try and fight for our collective rights. Every day more women see the problems with men in our spaces. It’s not hopeless.
They managed to make it very acceptable and even very politically correct for men on social media or even in real life to yell at women that they were a “TERF” or a “SWERF.”
Er, yes, I think women need their own spaces for safety and privacy, and prostitution involves the subjugation of often desperate women, is demeaning and shouldn’t be normalised.
What a terrible bigot!! screams a male with a beard at me, declaring “bodies aren’t a big deal” and “it’s just a body” and “it’s just a <<male body part>>, why don’t you want it in your female space, etc etc.” Yes, I’m the one with the issue.
Absolutely insane.
Raging at this article https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/67336536
When will the BBC report the truth about Caster Semenyas DSD. A DSD that only affects biological males
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When will the BBC report the truth about Caster Semenyas DSD. A DSD that only affects biological males
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Do we get to call in
That man-spreading, though. I don't know one solitary woman who would sit like this, especially while filming for television. I won't mention the voice.
I do not believe that's a woman!
This, this is what I meant when I commented a few days ago about him being brought up “as a boy”. There is nothing feminine about him at all !
I don't make it my business to ask people what genitals they have in their pants but if they were born looking outwardly female, and were raised as a girl then I think it would only be at puberty that differences would emerge. This is one of the cases I think is exceptional, but which could be used to make a rule. To my mind, if Caster wants to compete as a woman, they would need to have the testosterone reducing drugs, but I can equally see why someone may not want to change the hormones their body naturally produces, given this is what we are railing against (genetic male suppressing male hormones to 'become a woman'). I have some compassion over their situation, but in terms of competing, it has to be fair for other athletes.
Sitting in a man spreading way is a masculine thing but also I'd see that as a 'butch lesbian' pose too, with the same dress sense
Sitting in a man spreading way is a masculine thing but also I'd see that as a 'butch lesbian' pose too, with the same dress sense
This is so common.
Totally...
Also, I see no sympathy for his wife or his children.
Sorry, but he was someone with a mental illness, not a poor misunderstood 'girl'.
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It's really really sad and tit for sportspeople with DSDs - but they can't compete against people who don't have them. End of story. Be a coach, enjoy sport for its own sake but don't use your unusual biological advance to cheat.
Agreed. Added to which, it’s not ‘kind’ to deceitfully collude in someone’s delusion that they’ve achieved an impossible feat of transfiguration.
It is sad, especially as most or even all of them in sport were specifically recruited by agents as they know full well that the loophole allowed men to compete as women.
Exactly this! Very feminine. Not.
I understand the issue, but from what I see about their history, they will have had ambiguous genitalia and been raised as a girl in a country where it perhaps wasn't possible to go and get extensive sex testing for free, so they were a young teenager before it was obvious there was an issue. At that point I would say it would have been very difficult for them, and I have compassion on anyone who is raised as one gender and then it turns out they are not that gender. I can understand why they would want to identify as a woman if their entire life they were raised as a girl, but when it comes to the athletics I think they shouldn't be able to compete against women, but wouldn't be able to compete against men. To me this is different from someone who was born, raised and went through puberty as a man declaring themselves to be a woman.
A lot of PR has been done to convince us all that Caster is an “exceptional” case of someone raised as a girl who didn’t know they had male anatomy, but it’s more straightforward than this in reality.
Caster is male, and was pretty much deliberately recruited for competitive female sport because of a health condition that only affects males (as someone posted above) that could technically allow Caster into the female class the way that class is organised.
Outside of sport, Caster doesn’t really live as a female (incidentally, not that I think a male “living as a female” is really possible or proves anything at all, but Caster is a man to the world at large except when it’s time to compete). Caster’s wife has posted on social media about her “husband.”
Caster is presented as a “grey area” case and as one of the “difficult decisions”, but like pretty much everyone with an intersex condition, Caster’s sex (male) is identifiable. It has become difficult only because Caster has been allowed to unfairly compete with women for so long, which many female athletes have privately complained about for some time. Caster is well aware he’s not a woman — in my opinion.
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