How did I just know my employers parent co would be on that list. This is how the infection spreads with US companies bringing their nonsense to the Old World.
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I have never voted tory before but I feel like I owe it to my children (my boys included), to my future grandchildren to stand up against this tit, they deserve me to raise my voice on this issue.
I just won’t be voting. I can’t vote for the party that has decimated education and the NHS and increased poverty (not to mention all the scandals with Covid and ministers lining their own pockets - they are crooks) but I also can’t vote for any party that supports self id. I live in a safe Tory seat anyway so the point is moot.
This issue is probably the only one that will lose the next election for Labour. It is accepted that both sides will lie, or at least present statistics in a misleading way, to gain votes. Most voters don’t understand them or care anyhow. What you can’t do is question what is self evident, and a guy in a dress is a guy in a dress is a guy in a dress. To claim something else is just stupid. And to further claim that anyone who is believing the evidence of the own eyes is simply mistaken is even more stupid.
To make this go away Starmer just has to utter three words “adult human female”. It’s not like any TRA activists who he loses by doing this are suddenly going to turn around and vote Tory. And the reality is that after the next election you are going to have either a Labour or Tory PM. So my conclusion is Starmer actually believes a bloke in a dress is a woman, in which case
, or Starmer is to tit scared to say anything else, in which case I wonder what use he will be in a negotiation room with Vladimir Putin. Being boring is fine. Being bleeping useless is another thing entirely.
To make this go away Starmer just has to utter three words “adult human female”. It’s not like any TRA activists who he loses by doing this are suddenly going to turn around and vote Tory. And the reality is that after the next election you are going to have either a Labour or Tory PM. So my conclusion is Starmer actually believes a bloke in a dress is a woman, in which case
, or Starmer is to tit scared to say anything else, in which case I wonder what use he will be in a negotiation room with Vladimir Putin. Being boring is fine. Being bleeping useless is another thing entirely.TRA's already think Labour is transphobic because they haven't hung, drawn and quartered Rosie Duffield.
I can't in good conscience vote Conservative looking at NHS stats while they've been in government (let alone everything else, their utter bleeping ineptitude during the pandemic was shameful), but Labour have been an abysmal opposition to the point that it's embarassing.
I can't in good conscience vote Conservative looking at NHS stats while they've been in government (let alone everything else, their utter bleeping ineptitude during the pandemic was shameful), but Labour have been an abysmal opposition to the point that it's embarassing.
I think Labour will win the next election because the tories have been in power too long. The average person is far more concerned about their energy bills and the cost of living than about men in dresses. A high proportion of people don't have much interest in this issue at all because they don't think it affects them.This issue is probably the only one that will lose the next election for Labour. It is accepted that both sides will lie, or at least present statistics in a misleading way, to gain votes. Most voters don’t understand them or care anyhow. What you can’t do is question what is self evident, and a guy in a dress is a guy in a dress is a guy in a dress. To claim something else is just stupid. And to further claim that anyone who is believing the evidence of the own eyes is simply mistaken is even more stupid.
To make this go away Starmer just has to utter three words “adult human female”. It’s not like any TRA activists who he loses by doing this are suddenly going to turn around and vote Tory. And the reality is that after the next election you are going to have either a Labour or Tory PM. So my conclusion is Starmer actually believes a bloke in a dress is a woman, in which case
I won't vote for Labour because of this but I reckon most women I know don't care very much about this at all. People only usually start caring when it affects them.
I’ve lost the comment now but who was it that said Mr Menno wasn’t too nice to them? I’ve always liked him. What happened?
His latest video he’s saying why can’t we redefine the concept of manhood. Something we have discussed in here many times. He’s not a ‘manly man’, he says himself he’s quite effeminate (whatever that means). I feel like the whole trans movement wouldn’t exist if we just accepted people wearing and behaving how they wished, and still being a man or a woman. All these ‘trans men’ or non binary women in their uniforms of plain T-shirts and trousers. Wear that! Women can wear plain clothes!! Have no colour at all in your wardrobe, cut your hair short, sit with your legs apart
, talk over people and mansplain constantly (ok no one should be doing this). Being a woman doesn’t mean you have to adhere to social norms of being nice and feminine. Same with men. I know we all roll our eyes at big bruisers in dresses and make up, but if they weren’t claiming to be women would it matter? People should be able to dress however they like. It’s men that need to start accepting other definitions of men. Not women expected to play make believe that big guy Gary is now Gina.
I’m rambling now as I’ve not had my morning coffee
but I agreed with Menno about this.
His latest video he’s saying why can’t we redefine the concept of manhood. Something we have discussed in here many times. He’s not a ‘manly man’, he says himself he’s quite effeminate (whatever that means). I feel like the whole trans movement wouldn’t exist if we just accepted people wearing and behaving how they wished, and still being a man or a woman. All these ‘trans men’ or non binary women in their uniforms of plain T-shirts and trousers. Wear that! Women can wear plain clothes!! Have no colour at all in your wardrobe, cut your hair short, sit with your legs apart
, talk over people and mansplain constantly (ok no one should be doing this). Being a woman doesn’t mean you have to adhere to social norms of being nice and feminine. Same with men. I know we all roll our eyes at big bruisers in dresses and make up, but if they weren’t claiming to be women would it matter? People should be able to dress however they like. It’s men that need to start accepting other definitions of men. Not women expected to play make believe that big guy Gary is now Gina.I’m rambling now as I’ve not had my morning coffee
but I agreed with Menno about this.
Agreed. Wear what you like, be who you want, but don’t claim to be the opposite sex, steal their jobs and sporting achievements, get in their spaces and try to corrupt their kids. It’s not difficult.I’ve lost the comment now but who was it that said Mr Menno wasn’t too nice to them? I’ve always liked him. What happened?
His latest video he’s saying why can’t we redefine the concept of manhood. Something we have discussed in here many times. He’s not a ‘manly man’, he says himself he’s quite effeminate (whatever that means). I feel like the whole trans movement wouldn’t exist if we just accepted people wearing and behaving how they wished, and still being a man or a woman. All these ‘trans men’ or non binary women in their uniforms of plain T-shirts and trousers. Wear that! Women can wear plain clothes!! Have no colour at all in your wardrobe, cut your hair short, sit with your legs apart
I’m rambling now as I’ve not had my morning coffee
I agree with that to an extent until men's sexual perversions and power plays come into it. I'm thinking of that business man who wears a skirt one day a week. He's doing that to have an effect, not because he wants to feel the air on his legs. And I'm thinking of people like Grayson Perry who are just enjoying their fetish.
I might spoil mine and write adult human female on it
Why does everything have to be so damn complicated and dumb?
Why can’t we live in a world where transwomen are transwomen and they stay in their lane and talk about dysphoria, tucking, sex surgery, and everything relating to their experience as a transwomen. And as women we talk about our lives as women and our health as women. And they know what their lane is and they stay there. But no. They are so ashamed of being trans u have to pretend women and trans is the same. Well it isn’t. Okay. You can create any policy in the world, can call people any names. At the end of the day, you are trans. Be proud of it like u say u are. Because if u were proud u wouldn’t be so pissed off about being told that you are trans yet at the same time in a weird way u pretend u are proud. You are not proud of who u are. You are ashamed. And that should be something YOU work on as a community. That self- hatred where being called trans and not woman is seen as an insult for you. And who pays the price? Women.
Why can’t we live in a world where transwomen are transwomen and they stay in their lane and talk about dysphoria, tucking, sex surgery, and everything relating to their experience as a transwomen. And as women we talk about our lives as women and our health as women. And they know what their lane is and they stay there. But no. They are so ashamed of being trans u have to pretend women and trans is the same. Well it isn’t. Okay. You can create any policy in the world, can call people any names. At the end of the day, you are trans. Be proud of it like u say u are. Because if u were proud u wouldn’t be so pissed off about being told that you are trans yet at the same time in a weird way u pretend u are proud. You are not proud of who u are. You are ashamed. And that should be something YOU work on as a community. That self- hatred where being called trans and not woman is seen as an insult for you. And who pays the price? Women.
I’m not too bothered about those two. The man in the skirt hasn’t got his balls hanging out and doesn’t appear to be a danger to women or want to be in our spaces, and I don’t think Grayson Perry does either. I get that it feels like they are getting their kicks from it, but I don’t feel like they are appropriating women either.
That's the whole point of safeguarding though isn't it? just because those two seem fine we can't assume they all are. I'm more than happy to see men dress flamboyantly (for want of a better term) but we all know some of them get off on our reactions.
Maybe I’m in the minority here but I’m more focussed on the TiMs and pervs who are quite clearly dodgy.
I agree.
I don't remember reading anywhere that Grayson Perry claims to be a woman. He dresses in women’s clothes occasionally of course but as far as I know has never insisted that everyone should say he is a woman.
I just googled 'Grayson Perry Fetish' and quite a lot of interviews where he admits that dressing up as a kind of little bo peep character is a fetish. A quote from a Telegraph article ' he admits that the act of dressing as a woman is bound up in his interest in eroticism, fetish sex and sadomasochism.'
Plus, his need for dressing that way in public means we all have to get involved in his perversions.
The second someone gets a sexual kick out of dressing a certain way it's a no from me. You never see a woman getting off on wearing a suit do you?
Plus, his need for dressing that way in public means we all have to get involved in his perversions.
The second someone gets a sexual kick out of dressing a certain way it's a no from me. You never see a woman getting off on wearing a suit do you?
Madonna wears her fetish stuff in public and people call her empowering and brave, body positive. Personally I think she looks a mess and should keep it covered up. What she comes out in is way worse than a nicely tailored pencil skirt.
We need to stop holding up Grayson Perry as an example of a virtuous cross dresser. He’s an AGP with a massive sissy fetish like the rest of them.
This 2007 photo was posted on MN recently. He wore this at a charity ball for children with cancer.
He’s gross.
This 2007 photo was posted on MN recently. He wore this at a charity ball for children with cancer.
He’s gross.
That dildo thing is completely inappropriate there !
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