I don’t see much evidence of many TIMs wanting to have sex with men anyway. But surely this just needs better rules based on risk.
The homophobia is 100% from the American Red Cross announcement, not the Reduxx reply reporting of it.I don’t see much evidence of many TIMs wanting to have sex with men anyway. But surely this just needs better rules based on risk.
The tweet makes gay sex sound like this awful thing that should exclude any gay man from giving blood. Thankfully here in the UK the rules were changed to look at behaviour - ie gay men who aren’t sleeping around all the time are at a lower risk and hence can donate blood. I’m sick of low level homophobia in tweets like that.
Politically and in some other areas it’s fascinating (not the content of course, I mean how it unravelled). Journalists have been forced to play along (some probably all to willing more than others) and are now getting bolder, some of them even blatantly forewarning that they are going to use biological sex in their articles no matter what the ISPO rules say.I think it’s worth noting and acknowledging how everything we have talked about for ages in here is now being discussed by the general public in a way we’ve not seen before. It is a win (of sorts) for the GC cause. More and more people are talking out now publicly about the ramifications on women and how it impacts us.
Shame on everyone who has jumped on the TWAW bandwagon these last few years, because it was trendy and they were shit scared of the TRAs. Shame on those who dropped friends and colleagues, took what they thought was the higher moral ground, been openly abusive to women, called JKR an evil nazi etc etc. Now they are seeing the very real issues that self ID brings. And that it was never about hatred of trans people, and only about the rights of women. The fact it’s taken an actual rapist on the back of Nicola’s insane gender reforms to highlight what we’ve all been saying for years is astounding and totally shameful.
This is the point everyone has been missing. It's shameful, women deserve private and safe spaces.And that it was never about hatred of trans people, and only about the rights of women.
I disagree. The article is written in a 'panic' type fashion. The bit in bold is weird:The homophobia is 100% from the American Red Cross announcement, not the Reduxx reply reporting of it.
It doesn't come across as homophobia to me, more calling out that whilst gay men are excluded, men who self id as trans and sleep with men are good to donate and they are right to call it out.I don’t see much evidence of many TIMs wanting to have sex with men anyway. But surely this just needs better rules based on risk.
The tweet makes gay sex sound like this awful thing that should exclude any gay man from giving blood. Thankfully here in the UK the rules were changed to look at behaviour - ie gay men who aren’t sleeping around all the time are at a lower risk and hence can donate blood. I’m sick of low level homophobia in tweets like that.
Presumably because there is always the risk of accidental blood transfer to the staff whilst inserting needles etc. Assuming also that any risk is less after 3 months. Contaminated blood kills.I disagree. The article is written in a 'panic' type fashion. The bit in bold is weird:
This change would allow a homosexual or bisexual male to present at the clinic and self-describe himself as “female” or “trans” and be exempted from the 3-month deferral typically associated with males who actively engage in sexual activity with other males. This may pose a risk to both the Red Cross staff, the donor, and the viability of blood donations.
Why would the Red Cross staff be at risk if a sexually active gay man presented himself at a donor centre?! It's like they think any gay man who's had sex in the last 3 months is diseased and that the disease can jump from the person to the staff at the donor centre through the air!
I don't want to derail*, and I get the risk being outlined to the blood, but saying donor staff are at risk and the salacious reporting is shitty. In my opinion. I just have to call out homophobia when I see it.
(*I might resurrect the LGB thread)
Please don’t tell me this is him?Anyone seen that Kaelie on tiktok? Says he's uncomfortable using men's bathrooms as he identifies as female (he has a beard and uses the 'some women grow beards' as an excuse for his manly appearance). Yet, he gives 0 fucks to the women he's making uncomfortable by forcing himself into our spaces.
Why is their discomfort more important than women's rightful discomfort of having some smelly fat man in their bathroom? His 100 videos dedicated to invalidating women's feelings and rights for his own selfish desires is sickening.
But surely those staff always take precautions because anyone could technically have contaminated blood regardless of sexual orientation and if they’re monogamous or not. The risk to donor staff is lower in certain groups but can never be ruled out.Presumably because there is always the risk of accidental blood transfer to the staff whilst inserting needles etc. Assuming also that any risk is less after 3 months. Contaminated blood kills.
That's him. And this thing reckons he's a woman..Please don’t tell me this is him?
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From infected blood as 65% of new infections of HIV where in MSM group. Whilst there are protocols in place for infections there is still a very minimal risk of someone being infected. I am pretty sure they did not mention viruses jumping through the air in the article.I disagree. The article is written in a 'panic' type fashion. The bit in bold is weird:
This change would allow a homosexual or bisexual male to present at the clinic and self-describe himself as “female” or “trans” and be exempted from the 3-month deferral typically associated with males who actively engage in sexual activity with other males. This may pose a risk to both the Red Cross staff, the donor, and the viability of blood donations.
Why would the Red Cross staff be at risk if a sexually active gay man presented himself at a donor centre?! It's like they think any gay man who's had sex in the last 3 months is diseased and that the disease can jump from the person to the staff at the donor centre through the air!
I don't want to derail*, and I get the risk being outlined to the blood, but saying donor staff are at risk and the salacious reporting is shitty. In my opinion. I just have to call out homophobia when I see it.
(*I might resurrect the LGB thread)
No they didn't mention that, which is why I used the phrasing "it's like they think".From infected blood as 65% of new infections of HIV where in MSM group. Whilst there are protocols in place for infections there is still a very minimal risk of someone being infected. I am pretty sure they did not mention viruses jumping through the air in the article.
I wonder what his goal is and who it is he’s trying to attract with his wee fairy lights, animal handbag and mean girls poster? This creep should never be allowed within 100 feet of female only spaces or schools.That's him. And this thing reckons he's a woman..
Not getting at you either but the US blood service and its staff and volunteers have decided that the 3 month rule is one that carries the least risk to all.But surely those staff always take precautions because anyone could technically have contaminated blood regardless of sexual orientation and if they’re monogamous or not. The risk to donor staff is lower in certain groups but can never be ruled out.
Yet the article makes it sound like the risk to donor staff is specific to male donors who’ve had sex with men in the last 3 months.
I’m not getting at you, I just feel I’m more attuned to spotting homophobic prejudice as it’s relevant to me. A bit like how women are better placed to call out sexism against women etc.
Do they screen the blood donations for HIV, etc ?
I read that piece last night, it so badly needed to be said."We - the women - we want our fucking stuff back. We want our women’s prisons, our women’s sports, our women’s refuges, our women’s bogs, our right to same-sex care, our fucking WORDS. And we will not wheesht for all you jelly-spined bloviating cowardly politicians and hacks. Especially not for those who feebly wring their hands now, backtracking on their mantras because they are so fucking stupid that they only just realised that adhering to TWAW “principles” means they must publicly side with serial rapists, and -oops!- the optics of that are making them feel a bit icky. Don’t like the sound of female rage? Find a fucking safe-space. Of your own".
A Message to Those Recently Opining on a Risk to Women Prisoners (4w.pub)
Literally!! I really wanna know his end goal.. I get big creepy vibes from this guy.I wonder what his goal is and who it is he’s trying to attract with his wee fairy lights, animal handbag and mean girls poster? This creep should never be allowed within 100 feet of female only spaces or schools.
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