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Breastfeeding works on a hormonal feedback loop so the more the baby suckles, the more prolactin hormone the mother's body produces. The prolactin then acts on the milk ducts to produce more milk for the baby. It's also been shown that what the mother eats or drinks will affect the milk. I know strong flavours like garlic or spices like chili will be passed on and it's also why it's advised that you avoid alcohol or recreational drugs while breastfeeding. Therefore it's highly likely that whatever cocktail of medications needed to induce 'lactation' would be passed on to the baby.
The other point is, do biological males have milk ducts? I'm sure these develop during puberty so if you've gone through male puberty, would they have them..?

It may be possible for men can have raised prolactin levels if they suffer from gallactorhea (not sure that's spelt right), although I'm not sure whether they would lactate in the same way as a post-partum woman would. A male friend of mine had this condition, which was caused by a benign tumour on his pituitary gland. It also made him to be dizzy and affected his vision which was how he got diagnosed as he lost consciousness while riding his bike. I'm not sure this is something you would willing want to induce.
I suspect of your friends symptoms were caused by the tumour rather than the hyperprolactinaemia. A pituitary tumour can affect the vision by compressing the optic chiasm.
 
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Apologies I have 3 children -2 boys and a girl. The first two used to worry about walking about when younger in case they where challenged by local youths but as they got older i lost that. My daughter is the youngest and I do worry about here more than my two boys because she is a woman.

I just read this and I apologise if it upsets some people but its not something me or my two male children need fear. Nor do any self ID teens or adults.
Eff your made up stats this is real life

 
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Just seen on twitter “cis people cannot choose their category” has the world really gone mad
So basically all you have to do to cheat is not be cis, or at least say you’re not cis. It’s a complete farce that surely negatively impacts everyone as nobody with any sense would ever respect any of these ‘wins.’
 
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No, they aren't. Sex and gender are two different things.
Biologically, DNA , there are two sexes. That's immutable.
You can choose your gender
No you can't. You're either male, female or mentally ill
 
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The was a point in the Matt Walsh *what is a woman* documentary, where one of the doctors state:

"10 years on cross sex hormones gives you cancer."

I've always thought this would happen. These drugs are untested for this usage, it was never going to wnd well.
Considering the quantity and severity of the side effects of hormonal birth control/HRT for women, I don’t know how anyone logically expected that cross sex hormones wouldn’t cause absolute havoc.
 
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No you can't. You're either male, female or mentally ill
Yeah, so I think what @VC10 meant was that gender ideology would say you can choose your gender. Which most of us here don't agree with. Personally I think gender is a regressive social construct. But I believe that's why @VC10 made the distinction between sex and gender. Sex is a biological reality, gender a social construct.
 
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Considering the quantity and severity of the side effects of hormonal birth control/HRT for women, I don’t know how anyone logically expected that cross sex hormones wouldn’t cause absolute havoc.
We still know so little about hormones and how they exactly affect us, it's complete madness to give them to healthy people, especially children who still grow and develop, for no medical reason.
 
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Just seen on twitter “cis people cannot choose their category” has the world really gone mad
So men and women go in separate categories because we acknowledge that they do in fact have biological differences which means it wouldn’t be a fair competition. But saying you’re trans negates that and you get to choose which category you go in? Has the world gone bleeping mad? How about a THIRD category, for trans and whoever else?

That wouldn’t do though would it, because the point is trans women competing against women with all their physical advantages and then getting to win!
 
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Sorry I know I’m a one track record but I’ve just looked at the Lucy ruddle posts on Facebook and quite a few people I know have loved/liked them. Social media drives me mad these days cos it’s just people falling over themselves trying to prove what amazingly kind/good/righteous people they are.
And yet - policing and deleting comments questioning any of it are deleted! Lucy states several times that she won’t tolerate discussion 🤷🏻‍♀️
also on Milli hills Instagram last night she shared a post from ‘bloody good period’ - the BGP post stated ‘periods have no gender’ there were quite a few comments questioning this, highlighting the fact that erasing the word ‘woman’ wasn’t very inclusive etc…. All these comments have been deleted. This is where I feel we are in dark dangerous times. This sort of thing makes me worry about my daughters future. If we aren’t even allowed to question anything … we’re just in an echo chamber created by people who have decided certain things are ‘good/bad’ or ‘right/wrong’ - that sounds medieval!! Wereally haven’t moved on from when the church was dictating to everyone how to behave.
 
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I have “thunderbolts and lightning, very, very frightening” running through my head after reading up on that.
I have knock on wood lol

“it’s like thunder, lightning, the way you love me is frightening, I gotta knock, on wood!”

Sorry I know I’m a one track record but I’ve just looked at the Lucy ruddle posts on Facebook and quite a few people I know have loved/liked them. Social media drives me mad these days cos it’s just people falling over themselves trying to prove what amazingly kind/good/righteous people they are.
And yet - policing and deleting comments questioning any of it are deleted! Lucy states several times that she won’t tolerate discussion 🤷🏻‍♀️
also on Milli hills Instagram last night she shared a post from ‘bloody good period’ - the BGP post stated ‘periods have no gender’ there were quite a few comments questioning this, highlighting the fact that erasing the word ‘woman’ wasn’t very inclusive etc…. All these comments have been deleted. This is where I feel we are in dark dangerous times. This sort of thing makes me worry about my daughters future. If we aren’t even allowed to question anything … we’re just in an echo chamber created by people who have decided certain things are ‘good/bad’ or ‘right/wrong’ - that sounds medieval!! Wereally haven’t moved on from when the church was dictating to everyone how to behave.
It’s like a new version of shunning isn’t it

don’t even bother to voice your opinion because you are a bigot
 
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Breastfeeding works on a hormonal feedback loop so the more the baby suckles, the more prolactin hormone the mother's body produces. The prolactin then acts on the milk ducts to produce more milk for the baby. It's also been shown that what the mother eats or drinks will affect the milk. I know strong flavours like garlic or spices like chili will be passed on and it's also why it's advised that you avoid alcohol or recreational drugs while breastfeeding. Therefore it's highly likely that whatever cocktail of medications needed to induce 'lactation' would be passed on to the baby.
The other point is, do biological males have milk ducts? I'm sure these develop during puberty so if you've gone through male puberty, would they have them..?

It may be possible for men can have raised prolactin levels if they suffer from gallactorhea (not sure that's spelt right), although I'm not sure whether they would lactate in the same way as a post-partum woman would. A male friend of mine had this condition, which was caused by a benign tumour on his pituitary gland. It also made him to be dizzy and affected his vision which was how he got diagnosed as he lost consciousness while riding his bike. I'm not sure this is something you would willing want to induce.
I haven’t taken anything stronger than a paracetamol during the 2 years I’ve been breastfeeding. I just don’t think it’s worth the risk of stuff getting into my milk. God knows how all of the Frankenstein hormones and chemicals in a trans-identified male’s body affect the nursing baby. Pure horror movie stuff.
 
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AND YET prostate cancer UK has #MenWeAreWithYou on their instagram page! Their messaging refers to men. Men men men men men men men. Not ‘people with prostates’ MEN. Erasure of women in the name of inclusivity. How did we get here?
 
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I just wanted to share a couple of thoughts I’ve been having lately with you all.

As I was growing up, in a predominantly white area as a black girl, I always felt like I didn’t fit into the ‘black stereotypes’. I didn’t like rap/grime, I dressed emo, I wasn’t loud. People at school used to call me an oreo, say I was black on the outside and white on the inside because I didn’t fit their stereotypes of what being black is! Of course, it’s outrageous and there is not one way of being black, just like there’s not one way of being a woman. I, coincidentally, also felt I was different to other girls, a total ‘not like other girls’ kinda girl.

What’s preposterous is that in this day and age, I know if I grew up how I did then, I’d be able to identify out of being a girl. I think all of this confusion in the name of progressiveness would have made me excited to show how woke I am and how not like other girls I am! Guys look, I’m non binary! That would so be me.

But I could never ever ever identify out of being black. Yes, both my race and my sex have negative stereotypes and the world will not be as kind to me all of the time but isn’t it interesting how we look down on Rachel Dolezal and Oli London as total idiots? Why on earth is gender now allowed to be a costume how those two have put on different races as a costume? How Rachel took a black woman’s role is reminiscent how these TiM’s are taking women’s trophies in sports and other opportunities from women.

All in all, bottom line is that I’m terrified for the future generation that are currently growing up. I’m angry that instead of rejecting stereotypes of how they should be they are instead rejecting womanhood. There isn’t one way of being anything; we’re all vastly complex people with personalities, thoughts and feelings… embrace the hand you’ve been dealt and be proud of who you currently are, THAT is truly embracing your authentic self! NOT pumping hormones or getting double mastectomies as a teenager. How could that be the true you?!

Love to you all!
 
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AND YET prostate cancer UK has #MenWeAreWithYou on their instagram page! Their messaging refers to men. Men men men men men men men. Not ‘people with prostates’ MEN. Erasure of women in the name of inclusivity. How did we get here?
I totally agrees and it enraged me too. Absolutely NO hesitation in saying men. It is said confidently. I notice so many, I hate to say women, on social media totally hesitate before they say women. You can see their brains working as they scramble to say ‘people’ instead. Especially around things like periods. Even look at the amount of women who put she/her in their bios compared to men who just don’t bother putting their pronouns on. It’s a really sad situation we find ourselves in. Women are forced to be inclusive or we’re not bEiNg KiNd. We are being played like puppets.

Just on the Lucy Ruddle thing, a few people I know follow her on Facebook so I had a look at her page and that post. She seems like a throughly unpleasant person and I hate that she’s supporting this bogus ‘trans women can breast feed’ tit. Deep down she knows it’s a load of tit but she’s trying to be inclusive and kind. To the point of insanity.
 
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I just wanted to share a couple of thoughts I’ve been having lately with you all.

As I was growing up, in a predominantly white area as a black girl, I always felt like I didn’t fit into the ‘black stereotypes’. I didn’t like rap/grime, I dressed emo, I wasn’t loud. People at school used to call me an oreo, say I was black on the outside and white on the inside because I didn’t fit their stereotypes of what being black is! Of course, it’s outrageous and there is not one way of being black, just like there’s not one way of being a woman. I, coincidentally, also felt I was different to other girls, a total ‘not like other girls’ kinda girl.

What’s preposterous is that in this day and age, I know if I grew up how I did then, I’d be able to identify out of being a girl. I think all of this confusion in the name of progressiveness would have made me excited to show how woke I am and how not like other girls I am! Guys look, I’m non binary! That would so be me.

But I could never ever ever identify out of being black. Yes, both my race and my sex have negative stereotypes and the world will not be as kind to me all of the time but isn’t it interesting how we look down on Rachel Dolezal and Oli London as total idiots? Why on earth is gender now allowed to be a costume how those two have put on different races as a costume? How Rachel took a black woman’s role is reminiscent how these TiM’s are taking women’s trophies in sports and other opportunities from women.

All in all, bottom line is that I’m terrified for the future generation that are currently growing up. I’m angry that instead of rejecting stereotypes of how they should be they are instead rejecting womanhood. There isn’t one way of being anything; we’re all vastly complex people with personalities, thoughts and feelings… embrace the hand you’ve been dealt and be proud of who you currently are, THAT is truly embracing your authentic self! NOT pumping hormones or getting double mastectomies as a teenager. How could that be the true you?!

Love to you all!
Yes!!! This is like a post on the previous thread that struck me - a disabled person cannot ‘identify’ as an able bodied person. There are certain things that we cannot change no matter how much we may want to or how they might negatively affect our life.

I totally agrees and it enraged me too. Absolutely NO hesitation in saying men. It is said confidently. I notice so many, I hate to say women, on social media totally hesitate before they say women. You can see their brains working as they scramble to say ‘people’ instead. Especially around things like periods. Even look at the amount of women who put she/her in their bios compared to men who just don’t bother putting their pronouns on. It’s a really sad situation we find ourselves in. Women are forced to be inclusive or we’re not bEiNg KiNd. We are being played like puppets.
yes, I totally agree. There is nowhere near as much societal pressure on men to conform to this tit. My husband would just roll his eyes and think it was ridiculous. I try to channel some of that energy!
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With where things are at now, I genuinely can’t tell if this is a troll post or not. This just in: smile and hold your cup with two hands instead of having a straight face and holding it with one hand to change gender.
probably just a piss take or mocking gender fluid stuff. Arthur am and Martha pm

I totally agrees and it enraged me too. Absolutely NO hesitation in saying men. It is said confidently. I notice so many, I hate to say women, on social media totally hesitate before they say women. You can see their brains working as they scramble to say ‘people’ instead. Especially around things like periods. Even look at the amount of women who put she/her in their bios compared to men who just don’t bother putting their pronouns on. It’s a really sad situation we find ourselves in. Women are forced to be inclusive or we’re not bEiNg KiNd. We are being played like puppets.

Just on the Lucy Ruddle thing, a few people I know follow her on Facebook so I had a look at her page and that post. She seems like a throughly unpleasant person and I hate that she’s supporting this bogus ‘trans women can breast feed’ tit. Deep down she knows it’s a load of tit but she’s trying to be inclusive and kind. To the point of insanity.
It’s strange isn’t that prostrate cancer charity’s have not started to use “people with prostrates”, whilst some womens charities kowtow to the trans lobby/left/libs/wokes/snowflakely and won’t even mention the W word.

I can imagine men kicking off about it if they did. So why is this happening to womens organisations?
 
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With where things are at now, I genuinely can’t tell if this is a troll post or not. This just in: smile and hold your cup with two hands instead of having a straight face and holding it with one hand to change gender.
Genuinely how does your gender change in minutes?!
AND YET prostate cancer UK has #MenWeAreWithYou on their instagram page! Their messaging refers to men. Men men men men men men men. Not ‘people with prostates’ MEN. Erasure of women in the name of inclusivity. How did we get here?
I commented something like this on the bloody good period page and they have blocked me. And presumably deleted my comments and others on the same vein
 
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