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It's really not wholesome or educational at all. I can't properly articulate how I feel about it. Other than it's a pile of rit by liberal arts narcissists. It is not OK or normal to expose prepubescent children to this. And that's not pearl clutching, it's just the truth. I feel like we're too far gone now, this crap will continue to get pushed on to children and anyone who disagrees is obviously a stuck-up, repressed woman.


He's in the Savile Netflix doc (sorry if this has been discussed, catching up here), I think on reflection, like most people, he knew something wasn't right but wasn't sure exactly what that was.
The Mary Whitehouse documentary on Iplayer is interesting. A lot of what she said made perfect sense (the slippery slope of porn etc.).
 
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Someone earlier in this thread mentioned people describing themselves and id never seen it before this! Bad enough all saying their pronouns 🙄 amazed there were no she/they users! I suppose it's meant to be inclusive for visually impaired people, but would they actually care what colour hair the speaker has or whether or not they are wearing earrings? I honestly wouldn't have noticed?
 
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Someone earlier in this thread mentioned people describing themselves and id never seen it before this! Bad enough all saying their pronouns 🙄 amazed there were no she/they users! I suppose it's meant to be inclusive for visually impaired people, but would they actually care what colour hair the speaker has or whether or not they are wearing earrings? I honestly wouldn't have noticed?
I suppose the audience would need to recognise who the players are once they are fully naked 😏
 
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Forty years ago I worked for the BBC for a time and there was someone working around me whom I was interviewed by on various topics a few times. He was on both TV and radio then. And had a kind of false bravado which was hard to pin down. A mix of charm that you could read as smarm when you sat through it for a while. He was very practicised at smooth talking.

I was friends with one of his close associates whilst working there and she sensed something was off too. We talked about it as he was quite a charming man to meet and viewed as such by the public (he was well known). But had a kind of stage personna that he used when he wanted to get on your good side as it waswhat made him famous. So practicised at knowing what to say and how to say it.

I suspect being in the media where that is deemed an asset is a pretty good cover for what else might be going on behind the scenes. So I am not that shocked there seems a high level of attraction for that kind of career as we saw with Saville. Hiding behind a false personna is rather what beng in the media can be about much of the time.

Cannot say the later revelaltions about this man I knew a little came as a total shock. Though putting 2 and 2 together at the time to see what was 'off' was not as simple as you might think it should be. I often asked myself afterwards why neither I nor that friend I knew there saw this then and she knew him better than I did.

I have not said who this person was deliberately - but it was NOT Saville I should make clear.

The reason being is that he is still alive. Though long since not employed by anyone and having paid for his awful crimes when they were exposed.
 
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Someone earlier in this thread mentioned people describing themselves and id never seen it before this! Bad enough all saying their pronouns 🙄 amazed there were no she/they users! I suppose it's meant to be inclusive for visually impaired people, but would they actually care what colour hair the speaker has or whether or not they are wearing earrings? I honestly wouldn't have noticed?
I’d never come across this before I watched this video. It’s pointless virtue signalling, nothing more. Has this been shown to be beneficial to visually impaired people? Did they ask for it? Does it help them to know that the person speaking is white (like that wasn’t already obvious considering this entire show is the whitest, most middle class, lefty concept imaginable)?

There was a brief trend for image descriptions on social media, especially Instagram, supposedly for the benefit of visually impaired users and to help describe the content of photographs and memes. This is just an extension of that.
 
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I'm glad it's been taken off and cancelled.
Anything in the future, announced, along similar lines needs stamping on very hard, too.
duck these people moaning and whining about " their" rights, etc & trying to push underage or child sex as if its some kind of normality ( it's normal to that kind, because their brains are hard-wired that way) .
Children and teens require a Duty of Care. Once they attain the age of responsibilty they can make their own minds up over such matters of sexuality, etc
Don't give ' p's ' an inch because they'll take a mile.
 
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Cos that's an image appropriate for children even fully dressed. 🤢
From the BBC website.
 
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About that sex show thingy - this is an excellent point.
 
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From twitter
Women on Twitter are pointing out - quite rightly - that clitorises (clitori?) aren’t particularly “wet and warm”… they’ve confused them with vaginas 🙄

All this supposedly educational content, and they can’t describe a clitoris correctly in a song about a clitoris. And why the cliched male-gaze joke about not being able to find them?
 
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Apparently there will still be "private performances" of the family sex show in Bath. Sounds even more creepy when phrased like that.
 
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This show is disturbing. Small children learn about their bodies gradually and often explore them on their own. They need to be taught they are private and about boundaries. There is the Pants song that teaches kids about their parts covered by pants are for them only. That was NSPCC. I can’t believe this was signed off. There is a huge trend for teaching children everything. Schools guidance for primary kids is about families and relationships so they learn about families with two mums or only one dad etc. Nothing about sex. This gets more and more against safeguarding the more I read about it. Children should not be a part of it.
 
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Apparently there will still be "private performances" of the family sex show in Bath. Sounds even more creepy when phrased like that.
Yeah, “private performances” for those who’ve heard the furore and still want to subject their kids to nudity and inappropriate sexual content 🚩 🚩🚩
 
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I always regret when I check out tumblr…this was reposted by someone who I thought was an intelligent woman with teenaged children but now that I looked at her page, it’s full TWAW nonsense. If you just look at the current world records, it’s clear women are no way close, I don’t even know where these people come up with these nonsense.

Also, I just saw Ezra Miller was arrested again for beating a woman (again) but of course his preferred pronouns have to be respected because that’s his biggest problem...
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I was never aware of the MAP meaning until I saw an odd post on someone's Instagram (some of you may or may not know of Sophie may Dickson) I still find it creepy. By all accounts, her children never went back to school after lockdown and she posts very questionable images of her children on Instagram

There's a post here about it
 

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It's really not wholesome or educational at all. I can't properly articulate how I feel about it. Other than it's a pile of rit by liberal arts narcissists. It is not OK or normal to expose prepubescent children to this. And that's not pearl clutching, it's just the truth. I feel like we're too far gone now, this crap will continue to get pushed on to children and anyone who disagrees is obviously a stuck-up, repressed woman.


He's in the Savile Netflix doc (sorry if this has been discussed, catching up here), I think on reflection, like most people, he knew something wasn't right but wasn't sure exactly what that was.
I agree, there’s a horrible, insidious feeling of p being normalised. That non binary nightmare Alok somebody, was quoted as saying something about little girls not being as innocent as you think they are (I don’t have the quote to hand). This is someone who has been quoted and praised by big celebrities. Same as that Jeffrey nightmare. The creepy one with the make up telling kids to be extra nice to people like him. It’s grooming. Feckin Busy Philipps keeps putting his stories on Instagram. Stop it Busy! This guy is making classic grooming seem ok 😫

It’s a scary slippery slope and makes me feel so uneasy. The fact that there’s a lot of people defending this sex show worries me. In fact all talk of this show and JS turns my stomach so much 😣

I'm glad it's been taken off and cancelled.
Anything in the future, announced, along similar lines needs stamping on very hard, too.
duck these people moaning and whining about " their" rights, etc & trying to push underage or child sex as if its some kind of normality ( it's normal to that kind, because their brains are hard-wired that way) .
Children and teens require a Duty of Care. Once they attain the age of responsibilty they can make their own minds up over such matters of sexuality, etc
Don't give ' p's ' an inch because they'll take a mile.
They also give no thought to those who have suffered SA as a child and are traumatised by it. Just reading about a show like this could be very triggering for SA survivors. It’s like all these years of trying to safeguard children have gone out the window. Really upsets me. So glad it got cancelled but hate the thought it was even considered.
 
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Years and years ago, there were midwives and women who would be called in to help with all births. So 'natural' births would be treated so so differently, with women available to advise with breathing and ways of naturally calming women down, Women would also give birth mainly at home in familar and relaxed surroundings. where women could move around during the birth etc. And they would usually have the midwife with them from start to finish.

Now although I definitely appreciated the idea of doctors available in a hospital, when my daughter was born, a natural birth isnt the same. Its in a medical facility, often in an uncomfortable room, without all the support and advice beforehand about breathing and how to relax, because most midwife services dont have enough time.

It is scary though,, how many maternity services in the NHS at the moment, seem to have massive problems with understaffing and supportive and understanding staff, who put the patients, rather than numbers, first.
You have to remember though, that "years and years" ago, women and babies died in childbirth much more often than they do now. Things like breech births, pre-eclampsia, shoulder dystocia, multiple births...women and their babies generally survive these, with the help of doctors and professionally trained midwives. It's thought that the "natural birth" mantra, and the reluctance to perform emergency c-sections, may have contributed to many of the tragedies highlighted in the recent maternity scandal at the Shrewsbury birth centre.
Also, women are having their first babies at a much older age than before, it's not uncommon to see first-time mums in their 40's. They're also getting larger, there are lots of issues with obesity, gestational diabetes, mobility problems etc. Babies are bigger, we're better fed now, so our babies grow much larger in the womb.

I do think that there is a great need for women to be better informed about childbirth though. The odd online antenatal class, and breastfeeding lecture isn't really cutting it. I don't think that self-penned "birth plans" are helpful, so many women are left feeling like they have "failed", or were cheated because they didn't end up with their dream water birth, surrounded by scented oils and relaxing music. We need to prepare women for the reality, to show them how to help themselves, by being informed about how their body works, how to use relaxation techniques when the going gets tough, how to understand what is happening during labour, and why, sometimes, things don't go according to plan. We also need to make sure that robust follow-up plans are made, women may need help after suffering perineal tears, they may need debriefing after a difficult delivery, they often need feeding support for more than a few days post-birth. Instead of wasting cash to print new signs and leaflets that don't mention the word "woman", and sending staff on "diversity" training courses, they could use the money in far better ways, to support women at a time in their life when it is most needed.
 
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I'm so glad I went to uni over a decade ago rather than now.
And womens' right to feel safe and comfortable? Non-existant apparently

Also, plenty of mention of men and lads in this post and comments and not a single soul calling them out. Lad Bible are supposed to be woke now too. Yay double standards!
 
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You have to remember though, that "years and years" ago, women and babies died in childbirth much more often than they do now. Things like breech births, pre-eclampsia, shoulder dystocia, multiple births...women and their babies generally survive these, with the help of doctors and professionally trained midwives. It's thought that the "natural birth" mantra, and the reluctance to perform emergency c-sections, may have contributed to many of the tragedies highlighted in the recent maternity scandal at the Shrewsbury birth centre.
Also, women are having their first babies at a much older age than before, it's not uncommon to see first-time mums in their 40's. They're also getting larger, there are lots of issues with obesity, gestational diabetes, mobility problems etc. Babies are bigger, we're better fed now, so our babies grow much larger in the womb.

I do think that there is a great need for women to be better informed about childbirth though. The odd online antenatal class, and breastfeeding lecture isn't really cutting it. I don't think that self-penned "birth plans" are helpful, so many women are left feeling like they have "failed", or were cheated because they didn't end up with their dream water birth, surrounded by scented oils and relaxing music. We need to prepare women for the reality, to show them how to help themselves, by being informed about how their body works, how to use relaxation techniques when the going gets tough, how to understand what is happening during labour, and why, sometimes, things don't go according to plan. We also need to make sure that robust follow-up plans are made, women may need help after suffering perineal tears, they may need debriefing after a difficult delivery, they often need feeding support for more than a few days post-birth. Instead of wasting cash to print new signs and leaflets that don't mention the word "woman", and sending staff on "diversity" training courses, they could use the money in far better ways, to support women at a time in their life when it is most needed.
You took all my thoughts and articulated them very well. Thank you. I did look up infant mortality rates. per 1000 babies, it was 29 in 1950 done to 3 this year.
 
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