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I can't remember Jessica's name before transition but I do remember him being on Celebrity Big Brother and I'm pretty sure he spoke about being bullied pretty badly as a child. It seems this is a source for at least some of the extreme plastic surgery he's got over the years.
 
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Isn't it Brazil where people went to get blue eye surgery and then went blind. I wouldn't go to Brazil for any sugery, I think it's a bit anything goes over there.
 
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Interesting to note that the surgery in general is seen to be at an experimental stage even for women, and that it's temporary (usually for two pregnancies apparently) as otherwise they'd have to keep taking medicine to keep the body from rejecting the transplant. I'd say (from my very uneducated viewpoint lmao) they could probably implant a uterus in a male, it's just a question of whether it would actually work through to pregnancy
The crux of the issue for me is even if it's theroretically possible I don't think it's ethical.
 
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I can't remember Jessica's name before transition but I do remember him being on Celebrity Big Brother and I'm pretty sure he spoke about being bullied pretty badly as a child. It seems this is a source for at least some of the extreme plastic surgery he's got over the years.
He was called Ken I think and was thrown out of Big Brother for being racist and using the N word. A fact which has been conveniently forgotten since he transitioned.
 
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He was called Ken I think and was thrown out of Big Brother for being racist and using the N word. A fact which has been conveniently forgotten since he transitioned.
I didn't watch him in CBB but wasn't he kicked out for doing something sexual. I heard it was with a chicken 🐔 maybe I dreamed it 🙃
 
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He was called Ken I think and was thrown out of Big Brother for being racist and using the N word. A fact which has been conveniently forgotten since he transitioned.
Yes you're right, he was known as the Ken doll. I was getting him muddled up with the other Rodrigo who was in Big Brother and became a trans woman 🤷‍♀️
This is what he looked like before
 

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Alves shouldn't have a child in any capacity (surrogate, adopted, born via womb transplant etc). He's simply too mentally unwell to be a good parent. How do you model self-acceptance to a child when you've got a plastic surgery addiction?
 
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I was reading this article and it's annoyed me


If you want to talk about how OF banning porn will force people into street prostitution then maybe don't focus on people who make £4000 a month from it. Maybe focus on the people who are using it to pay their rent and bills.

Also saw this in the sidebar


What stood out to me (apart from how horrible he was) was how many times the woman felt unsafe but talked herself out of it. We really are taught to ignore our gut feelings about situations to make men feel comfortable.
 
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Alves shouldn't have a child in any capacity (surrogate, adopted, born via womb transplant etc). He's simply too mentally unwell to be a good parent. How do you model self-acceptance to a child when you've got a plastic surgery addiction?
To be honest I agree. The self loathing and hang ups over their looks must be huge. How can they ever be a good role model with such prevalent mental illness?
And look at how they present as a woman? Why such huge tits? A real women would be looking for a reduction. It's like a cartoon.
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To be honest I agree. The self loathing and hang ups over their looks must be huge. How can they ever be a good role model with such prevalent mental illness?
And look at how they present as a woman? Why such huge tits? A real women would be looking for a reduction. It's like a cartoon.
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His interpretation is very pornified and the result of all the plastic surgery is a sort of Michael Jackson/Jordan-era-Katie-Price mashup.


I feel any desire to have a baby from his side is, as someone said above, about the surgery side of it and not about wanting to love and nurture a child. I think he would be a very narcissistic parent - it'd be about what the child does for him and not the other way around.
 
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To be honest I agree. The self loathing and hang ups over their looks must be huge. How can they ever be a good role model with such prevalent mental illness?
And look at how they present as a woman? Why such huge tits? A real women would be looking for a reduction. It's like a cartoon.
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Imagine being the other partner in a relationship with him, if he’s that insecure and addicted to surgery and “looks” i can’t imagine there’d be much room for him to have the capacity to care about a partner’s issues and self esteem as well. Same for any child, adopted or otherwise. I imagine it takes a lot of time in the morning to “look good” by his standards, imagine fitting in an early school run around that, for example. I feel sorry for him actually because his whole day must be spent in maintaining the appearance and style and surgery recovery. That’s no way to live.
 
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Imagine being the other partner in a relationship with him, if he’s that insecure and addicted to surgery and “looks” i can’t imagine there’d be much room for him to have the capacity to care about a partner’s issues and self esteem as well. Same for any child, adopted or otherwise. I imagine it takes a lot of time in the morning to “look good” by his standards, imagine fitting in an early school run around that, for example. I feel sorry for him actually because his whole day must be spent in maintaining the appearance and style and surgery recovery. That’s no way to live.
Even just maintaining a fake vagina is a lot of work- as an open wound it needs constant care (and again, Jessica, explain to me how this is going to be used to naturally conceive a child?!) . Let alone everything else. The surgery Jessica has had is mind boggling, along with bariatric surgery too, their body must be crying out for a break. It's too much and anyone operating on or promising this troubled person successful experimental surgeries should be struck off imo
 
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Imagine being the other partner in a relationship with him, if he’s that insecure and addicted to surgery and “looks” i can’t imagine there’d be much room for him to have the capacity to care about a partner’s issues and self esteem as well. Same for any child, adopted or otherwise. I imagine it takes a lot of time in the morning to “look good” by his standards, imagine fitting in an early school run around that, for example. I feel sorry for him actually because his whole day must be spent in maintaining the appearance and style and surgery recovery. That’s no way to live.
He was on Botched and they wouldn't do what he wanted to his nose I think as they said it was impossible but he got it done in Brazil but then came back to Botched needing help. They were horrified by him.

I find it horrific he wants a child and the thought of him using his own sperm to do so is immoral. It is sick. I think people are too scared to call out such behaviour the kinks and perversion for fear of being branded a prude or illiberal but I will never smile kindly as disgusting inels say they are lesbian. And non binaries should use the facilities that match what's between their legs.
 
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I saw a massive Twitter thread yesterday about "SEX WORK / OnlyFans isn't selling your body more than any other job! What about occupational injuries, the physical / psychological damage I suffered in my job, we all trade our labour for money so aren't we all selling our bodies?"

My stepfather has suffered various injuries from working on a building site. I left a job because of serious bullying, was signed off work for weeks, and it's probably had lifelong consequences. I can safely say that in both our cases this was nowhere near as bad as what people suffer because of the sex industry
 
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Sorry to be dense, but how on earth are they using wombs from real live women to do this? Presumably they are not women who need hysterectomies as these would be futile to be transplanted so why on earth would someone with a healthy, functioning womb sign up to this? Jessica will die soon, it's inevitable, she is mentally and physically broken.
 
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Sorry to be dense, but how on earth are they using wombs from real live women to do this? Presumably they are not women who need hysterectomies as these would be futile to be transplanted so why on earth would someone with a healthy, functioning womb sign up to this? Jessica will die soon, it's inevitable, she is mentally and physically broken.
Because there are women who will literally give men anything they ask for, rent out their womb or even give it away.
 
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Because there are women who will literally give men anything they ask for, rent out their womb or even give it away.

& I bet we'll get to the point where women with functioning wombs will be asked to do this, and if they refuse, will be accused of transphobia. Because Trans women take precedence over everything else.
 
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